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Here’s a useful tool for keeping track of the 22 current criminal and civil legal actions against the former president (actually, only 19 as 3 are closed) -- complete with brief summaries, complete summaries and frequent updates to the various legal actions. 

https://www.justsecurity.org/75032/litigation-tracker-pending-criminal-and-civil-cases-against-donald-trump/

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After deleting some of my posts and closing the offending SteveAztec thread, a couple of elites have been able to open it long enough to respond to me anyway.  And since I can’t respond on a closed thread, here is my response…

Other than the initial inquiry, this has never been about letting Steve post again; I doubt that he even wants to post here.  My complaint is about his treatment on this board and the failure of admins to control attacks on him – and worse, to sometimes participate in those attacks.

Steve was first banned on the SDSU board.  When he was banned, it was a sufficiently controversial that they started what became an 8 page thread on the topic to justify the decision (https://aztecmesa.proboards.com/thread/9747/steve-aztec-longer-member-board).  It is clear that Steve had support in the community and there was some criticism for the Board Administrators for having failed to “expel the dozens of people who've been taunting him.”  (And take a look at the thread that I bumped; initially it was supporters happy about Steve getting a radio show.  Then the haters arrived.)

I can’t say if Steve took it too far in response, but I will say that he denies most of various accusations and adds important missing context to others.  But I wasn’t a party to any of the events and can’t say who is in the right and who is in the wrong.  And I have to admit that if half of what has been said about him is true, depending on context, I might well have banned him too.  Or more likely I might have banned those who were taunting him.  (Steve had lost a brother-in-law to suicide and there have been a number of memes of people blowing their brains out, as well as posts blaming Steve or his sister for the suicide – and admins apparently let it go.)

I am in no position to evaluate the truth or falsity of the laundry list of claims made on this board about how Steve responded to all this.  My complaint, however, is about his treatment on this board.  I may be wrong, but his banning on this board at least appears to have been less about what he did on this board and more a carryover from the SDSU banning.  The same taunting continued – more suicide memes – apparently ignored by the admins. Utenation supposedly posted the first and it is explained away because he didn’t know about the suicide.  But was the post taken down?  Was an apology issued?   Indeed, for years, admins on this board have allowed Steve to be vilified based on little more than anecdotal hearsay.  This is a privately owned board, but it is not a private board – anyone can join.  And more than that, It’s not an anonymous board; people know who Steve.  You have a duty to protect your posters from libelous statements and unproven allegations -- especially when, having been banned themselves, they have no ability to defend themselves.

Even Retrofade (who says he’s not a mod but can post to closed threads) put up a “blowing his brains out” meme several years ago.  He knew that Steve lost his brother-in-law to suicide, and he now says that “Steve is a mentally disturbed individual”, which is libelous by the way, but excuses his meme as nothing more than being in “poor taste”.  Apparently it is okay with the board's current admins to taunt a "mentally disturbed person" because the post has never been taken down.  The poster has never been admonished.  And there has been no apology, unless you consider "he deserved it" to be an apology.

In my view, you owe Steve an apology for the treatment that you have tolerated and, in some cases, engaged in.  A former Aztec board went out of business when sued (not by Steve).  It won’t be the last one.  You need to fix this.  You need to administer your board and prevent libelous and incendiary attacks -- hearsay-- on posters. 

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On 9/24/2022 at 7:21 AM, Yoda said:

Here’s a useful tool for keeping track of the 22 current criminal and civil legal actions against the former president (actually, only 19 as 3 are closed) -- complete with brief summaries, complete summaries and frequent updates to the various legal actions. 

https://www.justsecurity.org/75032/litigation-tracker-pending-criminal-and-civil-cases-against-donald-trump/

The big question is....why haven’t there been any assassination attempts on Trump? It boggles the mind. He’s accessible enough in public. As much as he’s hated by people on so many levels and internationally, it really boggles the mind. Oh, so Iran is sooooooooooooooo pissed and they send assassins to kill Mr. Peanut foreign policy advisor to Trump and not Trump? 

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On 9/24/2022 at 5:50 PM, Nevada Convert said:

The big question is....why haven’t there been any assassination attempts on Trump? It boggles the mind. He’s accessible enough in public. As much as he’s hated by people on so many levels and internationally, it really boggles the mind. Oh, so Iran is sooooooooooooooo pissed and they send assassins to kill Mr. Peanut foreign policy advisor to Trump and not Trump? 

There's a pretty easy answer for this. All the gravy seals and the like are lining up to polish his mushroom. All the people crazy/stupid enough to try anything are deifying him.

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On 9/24/2022 at 4:50 PM, Nevada Convert said:

The big question is....why haven’t there been any assassination attempts on Trump? It boggles the mind. He’s accessible enough in public. As much as he’s hated by people on so many levels and internationally, it really boggles the mind. Oh, so Iran is sooooooooooooooo pissed and they send assassins to kill Mr. Peanut foreign policy advisor to Trump and not Trump? 

I have no idea why nobody has tried but if anybody ever does, and is successful, we'd have violence in this country the likes of which we haven't seen since the Civil War.

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After deleting some of my posts and closing the offending SteveAztec thread, a couple of elites have been able to open it long enough to respond to me anyway.  And since I can’t respond on a closed thread, here is my response…

Other than the initial inquiry, this has never been about letting Steve post again; I doubt that he even wants to post here.  My complaint is about his treatment on this board and the failure of admins to control attacks on him – and worse, to sometimes participate in those attacks.

Steve was first banned on the SDSU board.  When he was banned, it was a sufficiently controversial that they started what became an 8 page thread on the topic to justify the decision (https://aztecmesa.proboards.com/thread/9747/steve-aztec-longer-member-board).  It is clear that Steve had support in the community and there was some criticism for the Board Administrators for having failed to “expel the dozens of people who've been taunting him.”  (And take a look at the thread that I bumped; initially it was supporters happy about Steve getting a radio show.  Then the haters arrived.)

I can’t say if Steve took it too far in response, but I will say that he denies most of various accusations and adds important missing context to others.  But I wasn’t a party to any of the events and can’t say who is in the right and who is in the wrong.  And I have to admit that if half of what has been said about him is true, depending on context, I might well have banned him too.  Or more likely I might have banned those who were taunting him.  (Steve had lost a brother-in-law to suicide and there have been a number of memes of people blowing their brains out, as well as posts blaming Steve or his sister for the suicide – and admins apparently let it go.)

I am in no position to evaluate the truth or falsity of the laundry list of claims made on this board about how Steve responded to all this.  My complaint, however, is about his treatment on this board.  I may be wrong, but his banning on this board at least appears to have been less about what he did on this board and more a carryover from the SDSU banning.  The same taunting continued – more suicide memes – apparently ignored by the admins. Utenation supposedly posted the first and it is explained away because he didn’t know about the suicide.  But was the post taken down?  Was an apology issued?   Indeed, for years, admins on this board have allowed Steve to be vilified based on little more than anecdotal hearsay.  This is a privately owned board, but it is not a private board – anyone can join.  And more than that, It’s not an anonymous board; people know who Steve.  You have a duty to protect your posters from libelous statements and unproven allegations -- especially when, having been banned themselves, they have no ability to defend themselves.

Even Retrofade (who says he’s not a mod but can post to closed threads) put up a “blowing his brains out” meme several years ago.  He knew that Steve lost his brother-in-law to suicide, and he now says that “Steve is a mentally disturbed individual”, which is libelous by the way, but excuses his meme as nothing more than being in “poor taste”.  Apparently it is okay with the board's current admins to taunt a "mentally disturbed person" because the post has never been taken down.  The poster has never been admonished.  And there has been no apology, unless you consider "he deserved it" to be an apology.

In my view, you owe Steve an apology for the treatment that you have tolerated and, in some cases, engaged in.  A former Aztec board went out of business when sued (not by Steve).  It won’t be the last one.  You need to fix this.  You need to administer your board and prevent libelous and incendiary attacks -- hearsay-- on posters. 

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On 9/24/2022 at 4:50 PM, Nevada Convert said:

The big question is....why haven’t there been any assassination attempts on Trump? It boggles the mind. He’s accessible enough in public. As much as he’s hated by people on so many levels and internationally, it really boggles the mind. Oh, so Iran is sooooooooooooooo pissed and they send assassins to kill Mr. Peanut foreign policy advisor to Trump and not Trump? 

No way.  Martyring the Twice Impeached Orange Shitstain via assassination wouldn't be as remotely satisfying as seeing him cry like the corrupt bitch he is in his orange jumpsuit as he's behind locked doors in the clink..

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On 9/24/2022 at 6:27 PM, WYO1016 said:

There's a pretty easy answer for this. All the gravy seals and the like are lining up to polish his mushroom. All the people crazy/stupid enough to try anything are deifying him.

That makes no sense at all. No one is untouchable when they’re in public. No one. There are lots of military people that hate him. 

I’m not comparing Trump to Hitler, but I’d say there’s a lot of people that hate him as much. There were over 30 assassination attempts on Hitler that ranged from military to Joe down the street trying on his own. They all had come reasonably close with action. I’m not including foiled plots that were never attempted. 

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On 9/24/2022 at 8:15 PM, Yoda said:

I have no idea why nobody has tried but if anybody ever does, and is successful, we'd have violence in this country the likes of which we haven't seen since the Civil War.

I don’t think so. These far right militia types mostly don’t have any balls. They act tough and post themselves with their guns on SM, but never do anything. They bark like a Putin, nothing to back it up. Trump made a lot of enemies with the far right by not pardoning the Jan 6th people. Many Q people hate him for that. Since the raid in FL, he’s gotten some sympathy back from these people but not a ton. 

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On 9/24/2022 at 9:15 PM, Yoda said:

I have no idea why nobody has tried but if anybody ever does, and is successful, we'd have violence in this country the likes of which we haven't seen since the Civil War.

They haven't tried cause of Secret Service and Y'all Queda.

If someone did succeed, half the Country would celebrate and the other half would lose its mind.

"We don't have evidence but, we have lot's of theories."

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On 9/24/2022 at 10:28 PM, Wyoguns said:

I’m hoping nothing like this ever happens.  Hoping for a stroke or a heart attack personally 

While I don't disagree, a fair amount of these nutjobs believe JFK Junior, an avowed Democrat when alive, is supposed to magically pop up and crown Trump President.

They won't believe he's dead unless they're stuck in the ME's room as they do cause of death on his cadaver.

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On 9/24/2022 at 11:08 PM, Nevada Convert said:

I don’t think so. These far right militia types mostly don’t have any balls. They act tough and post themselves with their guns on SM, but never do anything. They bark like a Putin, nothing to back it up. Trump made a lot of enemies with the far right by not pardoning the Jan 6th people. Many Q people hate him for that. Since the raid in FL, he’s gotten some sympathy back from these people but not a ton. 

This is hilarious. But not shocking that a MAGA like you thinks the innocent, misunderstood, victim terrorists of 1/6 were just simple bystanders trying to have fun at a county fair. 
 

And last I checked, some of these radical right wing, insane pukes are shooting up and slaughtering people in our country on a weekly basis. 
 

Nothing to see here folks. Move along. These right wing militia types are harmless patriots.  These guys are all bark. 

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On 12/21/2022 at 2:04 PM, utenation said:

This is hilarious. But not shocking that a MAGA like you thinks the innocent, misunderstood, victim terrorists of 1/6 were just simple bystanders trying to have fun at a county fair. 
 

And last I checked, some of these radical right wing, insane pukes are shooting up and slaughtering people in our country on a weekly basis. 
 

Nothing to see here folks. Move along. These right wing militia types are harmless patriots.  These guys are all bark. 

You should get a hobby. How about joining the Oprah Book Club! 

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