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The Orange Clown's Mar-a-lago VISITED by FBI !!!!!!!

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Jackrabbit

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On 8/9/2022 at 9:18 AM, THEUniversityofNevada said:

So what I hear you say is that “if enough people want a person to be president they are above the law”, “ if enough people in a country will be upset that a politician they like is being held accountable we can’t hold that person accountable.”

I agree with you that a large portion of the country is going to be upset with this.

But that’s not how this works. That’s not how any of this works!

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On 8/9/2022 at 8:51 AM, Jackrabbit said:

That is not my point.   The whole process is so politicized and divisive... it now doesn't matter if he did or not.  

Even Trump went against his base when he didn't go after HRC.  He knew it wouldn't be good for the country.

Half the country sees this as a DC power grab. This move is intentionally divisive as hell and is meant to intimidate and shut one side up.

The heckler's nullification?

Planning is an exercise of power, and in a modern state much real power is suffused with boredom. The agents of planning are usually boring; the planning process is boring; the implementation of plans is always boring. In a democracy boredom works for bureaucracies and corporations as smell works for skunk. It keeps danger away. Power does not have to be exercised behind the scenes. It can be open. The audience is asleep. The modern world is forged amidst our inattention.

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On 8/8/2022 at 7:58 PM, smltwnrckr said:

If it's just documents, and there's not something crazy in them, I think this turns out... poorly. 

Surely, the FBI could have asked  Trumpy to return them ?

:shrug:

"We don't have evidence but, we have lot's of theories."

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On 8/9/2022 at 11:51 AM, Jackrabbit said:

That is not my point.   The whole process is so politicized and divisive... it now doesn't matter if he did or not.  

Even Trump went against his base when he didn't go after HRC.  He knew it wouldn't be good for the country.

Half the country sees this as a DC power grab. This move is intentionally divisive as hell and is meant to intimidate and shut one side up.

well, jack, we had 44 presidents in a row without an attempted coup and also without the fbi raiding them.

so... i am going to say that the link between "stuff trump did as president that no other president did" and "stuff that happened to former president trump that did not happen to any former president" is, well, real high. 

Remember that every argument you have with someone on MWCboard is actually the continuation of a different argument they had with someone else also on MWCboard. 

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On 8/9/2022 at 9:52 AM, smltwnrckr said:

I don't doubt it. But prosecuting him for just those is more trouble than it's worth.

 

The 2nd one has a lot of history behind it. From “yelling fire in a crowded theater” to HRC’s emails.  It requires “intent” to prove.  So, maybe no prosecution, but one can hope. 

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On 8/9/2022 at 8:57 AM, Spaztecs said:

Surely, the FBI could have asked  Trumpy to return them ?

:shrug:

Do we know they didn't? 

Planning is an exercise of power, and in a modern state much real power is suffused with boredom. The agents of planning are usually boring; the planning process is boring; the implementation of plans is always boring. In a democracy boredom works for bureaucracies and corporations as smell works for skunk. It keeps danger away. Power does not have to be exercised behind the scenes. It can be open. The audience is asleep. The modern world is forged amidst our inattention.

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On 8/8/2022 at 8:50 PM, mugtang said:

Wasn’t this what the GOP was all up in arms about Clinton over? 

Post of the week.

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On 8/9/2022 at 8:58 AM, grandjean87 said:

The 2nd one has a lot of history behind it. From “yelling fire in a crowded theater” to HRC’s emails.  It requires “intent” to prove.  So, maybe no prosecution, but one can hope. 

The theater thing is a first amendment issue, not a classified document issue. And not a great one at that.

I personally hope that he is not prosecuted just for taking the documents. If it's just the documents, hold a press conference and state how it was basically a federal repo, use the exact same wording for why you didn't prosecute Hilary, and leave it at that. If the documents are evidence of a major crime, then that's a different thing. 

Planning is an exercise of power, and in a modern state much real power is suffused with boredom. The agents of planning are usually boring; the planning process is boring; the implementation of plans is always boring. In a democracy boredom works for bureaucracies and corporations as smell works for skunk. It keeps danger away. Power does not have to be exercised behind the scenes. It can be open. The audience is asleep. The modern world is forged amidst our inattention.

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On 8/9/2022 at 9:59 AM, smltwnrckr said:

Do we know they didn't? 

My understanding is that the National Archives has been asking him to return the documents for months.  He probably lied to said he had returned them all and they knew he hadn't so they asked the FBI to go get them.

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On 8/9/2022 at 9:09 AM, Akkula said:

My understanding is that the National Archives has been asking him to return the documents for months.  He probably lied to said he had returned them all and they knew he hadn't so they asked the FBI to go get them.

If that's all this is, then they need to do what I suggested a minute ago and end it asap.

Planning is an exercise of power, and in a modern state much real power is suffused with boredom. The agents of planning are usually boring; the planning process is boring; the implementation of plans is always boring. In a democracy boredom works for bureaucracies and corporations as smell works for skunk. It keeps danger away. Power does not have to be exercised behind the scenes. It can be open. The audience is asleep. The modern world is forged amidst our inattention.

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On 8/9/2022 at 8:51 AM, Jackrabbit said:

That is not my point.   The whole process is so politicized and divisive... it now doesn't matter if he did or not.  

Even Trump went against his base when he didn't go after HRC.  He knew it wouldn't be good for the country.

Half the country sees this as a DC power grab. This move is intentionally divisive as hell and is meant to intimidate and shut one side up.

Pretty much jumping to conclusions here without knowing a lot of the facts……

1) was this a repo mission by DOJ on behalf of the national archive that will result in no charges?

2) if it was a preliminary search with an upcoming future indictment what is the charge? 
 

It should not be decisive to force the President to abide by the Presidential records act or to follow the Constitution.   Or even God Forbid transfer power peacefully.  
 

The fact half the country sees being a nation of laws versus a monarchy as divisive is a indictment of half the country not the FBI.   Of course that half is mostly the same half that thought slavery, Jim Crow laws, etc was perfectly fine.   
 

so which half do you belong to? 

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On 8/9/2022 at 7:23 AM, mugtang said:

You don’t subpoena stolen classified information.  You go raid the place where it is and you take it back.

And Sandy Berger, a Clinton staffer, was charged with taking classified documents from the National Archives.  He did it in 2003 so not quite the same but still was charged.  Plead guilty to misdemeanor and paid a 50k fine.  And he didn’t take them directly from the White House on his way out the door. 

they could have supoenaed them and then if he did not respond put him in jail for violation of obeying a supoena

that's what got his political advisor convicted, Steven Bannon.  he violated a court supoena and was guilty of criminal contempt.  he is now facing jail time.

 

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On 8/9/2022 at 8:58 AM, Bob said:

This stinks of partisan bullshit. A trump-hating partisan judge approved the search warrant.

Look how far we have fallen.

https://thenationalpulse.com/2022/08/09/mar-a-lago-warrant-authorized-by-epstein-lawyer/

Judge Bruce Reinhart – who is reportedly the most likely judge behind the warrant authorizing a raid on former President Donald Trump’s Mar A Lago estate – is a former attorney who represented employees of convicted sex offender and notorious pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, The National Pulse can reveal.

 

what Boob errr Bob takes for fact.   Why don’t you wait and find out for sure before spinning off the handle on this event?  Instead you quote conjecture from your right wing tabloid as fact.   Unfortunately for you here we actually read links and don’t stop at headlines and pictures.  Perhaps post this BS on the Barkboard.  They will eat it up there.  

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