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Let's see what everyone thinks about their team before the preseason mags all come out.

Boise State:

QB-Hank is back for his 4th season as starter. He was 2nd highest rated recruits Boise has ever had, but hasn't really lived up to that. He's been above average, but not much more than that. Further more, he hasn't really improved a whole bunch since his FR year. So I'm not really expecting a whole lot more than he's shown. He's tough as nails, the team loves him, but he still holds on the ball too long, and when the ball is in his hands late in the game, he rarely comes up with the drive needed. Behind him is a highly talented big, strong, fast QB. I expect Taylen Green (who just clocked as the 2nd faster player on the team) to get in 4-8 times a game in package plays. Also have Sam Vidlak (transfer from Oregon State). This should easily be the 3rd strongest QB room in the league behind Fresno and USU. If Hank can get rid of the ball faster and bump his efficiency up slightly into that 150-160 range, this should be a pretty good group.

RB-After 11 straight seasons with a 1,000 yard RB (national record), Boise hasn't had one two years in a row. Most of that can be attributed to George Holani not being able to stay healthy, with a bunch more blame on an OL that has been subpar for four years. When healthy, Holani is an All Conference/NFL caliber back, but he seems to be made of glass. They do bring in 4**** RB Ashton Jeanty, who came in early and is getting a lot of run and looked good in the spring. If those two stay healthy, they should be one of the better one/two punches in the league. If not, they only have serviceable guys after that,

WR-This is the biggest question mark on the offensive side of the ball. Stephan Cobbs is set for a breakout year. He's a likely All MW caliber receiver if he can stay healthy (which he hasn't done to this point). Had Octavius Evans decided to return, I'd feel good about the WRs. But since he didn't, I'm a little more concerned. Koetter and Bowens are serviceable vets, but unspectacular. If they end up being the 2 and 3, the WR group will be average. They'll be really good if the young WRs, Caples and Bolt, can step into that role. Caples was the highest rated recruit in his class and showed a few flashes as a FR playing behind a veteran group. They need him to step up now. Austin Bolt is very intriguing. He is the only Idaho high school athlete to ever win POTY in both football and basketball. They brought him in to play TE, but going into his 3rd year, he hasn't been able to gain the weight to play there and has now moved to WR. He is officially the fastest player on the team and has a big frame at 6-3, 210#s. If those two can step up, they'll be good, but right now I'd call the position a "question mark."

TE-This is an insanely deep and veteran group. Smith, Hopper, and Rufdal are all legit starting TEs and then there is a slew of young talent behind them. However none are spectacular and the offense doesn't use them all that much (they say they are going to utilize them more, but they always seem to say that). The MW lost of ton of TE talent this year, so one of these could step up to garner some post season awards, but most likely this just a solid, starless group.

OL-This has been an area of struggle for about the last four years. Some of that blame can be put on Hank holding onto the ball too long and the RBs lack of depth and not being able to stay healthy, but this has been an average/subpar group for a while now. Last year, they had some youth and dealt with a slew of injuries. This year, the starting five looks solid. They have a couple guys behind them that started games last year, but injuries could potentially hinder this group. KHG returns at Center after missing last year leading to a comical amount of bad snaps. They rotated four different guys into that spot trying to find anyone who could just get the ball to Hank. OGs, Curran and Dooley go from inexperienced starters last year to experienced vets. LT Ojukwu is another in the long line of Boise LTs who will be in the NFL. RT is likely Beresford who transfers in from Wazzu where he started last year. This looks like it could be one of the better OLs Boise has had in a while if they can stay healthy.

DL-This is a deep and talented group with many that will compete for All MW honors, and this is even after former All MW DE Shane Irwin announced his medical retirement yesterday. This is a veteran group that goes 2 and 3 deep at every position. They started out the season slow and injury riddled, but finished well and should be a dominant Line. Losing Irwin hurts a little bit, but they have a mountain of edge rushers and bring in three highly recruited transfers at that position. This would likely be the strength of the team if it wasn't for the DB (below).

LB-Without question the biggest question mark on the entire team and would be the only position that would prevent this D from being dominant. They lose All MW NB and WLB, but return a solid, but not great MLB in Noa. As of now it looks like the veteran back-ups are set up to take those open spots. Last year this group was average and if the back-ups take over it'll likely be less than that. The point of optimism for a fan is that the highest rated position group in the last two recruiting classes has been at LB. Question is, are any of them ready to contribute? If any of those guys can step up, this could be a decent group. If not, it will be the weakest position on the team.

DB-This is the strength of the team. They were inexperienced last year and then were ravished by injuries which built this years experience where they now have four CBs returning that started, at least, five games last year. Led by Markel Reed who is the #1 guy and a likely NFL guy after missing the 2nd half of the season. SS JL Skinner is a DPOTY candidate and FS Jones will likely join him on an NFL roster next year. Both safety back ups started at least one game last year and looked good in their time. This is a deep and talented group and should the one of the, if not the, best defensive backfields in league.

So, what are your expectations for your team? Optimism reigns supreme in the offseason, so wha chu got? 

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On 6/10/2022 at 2:57 PM, kingpotato said:

Let's see what everyone thinks about their team before the preseason mags all come out.

Boise State:

QB-Hank is back for his 4th season as starter. He was 2nd highest rated recruits Boise has ever had, but hasn't really lived up to that. He's been above average, but not much more than that. Further more, he hasn't really improved a whole bunch since his FR year. So I'm not really expecting a whole lot more than he's shown. He's tough as nails, the team loves him, but he still holds on the ball too long, and when the ball is in his hands late in the game, he rarely comes up with the drive needed. Behind him is a highly talented big, strong, fast QB. I expect Jaylon Green (who just clocked as the 2nd faster player on the team) to get in 4-8 times a game in package plays. Also have Sam Vidlak (transfer from Oregon State). This should easily be the 3rd strongest QB room in the league behind Fresno and USU. If Hank can get rid of the ball faster and bump his efficiency up slightly into that 150-160 range, this should be a pretty good group.

RB-After 11 straight seasons with a 1,000 yard RB (national record), Boise hasn't had one two years in a row. Most of that can be attributed to George Holani not being able to stay healthy, with a bunch more blame on an OL that has been subpar for four years. When healthy, Holani is an All Conference/NFL caliber back, but he seems to be made of glass. They do bring in 4**** RB Ashton Jeanty, who came in early and is getting a lot of run and looked good in the spring. If those two stay healthy, they should be one of the better one/two punches in the league. If not, they only have serviceable guys after that,

WR-This is the biggest question mark on the offensive side of the ball. Stephan Cobbs is set for a breakout year. He's a likely All MW caliber receiver if he can stay healthy (which he hasn't done to this point). Had Octavius Evans decided to return, I'd feel good about the WRs. But since he didn't, I'm a little more concerned. Koetter and Bowens are serviceable vets, but unspectacular. If they end up being the 2 and 3, the WR group will be average. They'll be really good if the young WRs, Caples and Bolt, can step into that role. Caples was the highest rated recruit in his class and showed a few flashes as a FR playing behind a veteran group. They need him to step up now. Austin Bolt is very intriguing. He is the only Idaho high school athlete to ever win POTY in both football and basketball. They brought him in to play TE, but going into his 3rd year, he hasn't been able to gain the weight to play there and has now moved to WR. He is officially the fastest player on the team and has a big frame at 6-3, 210#s. If those two can step up, they'll be good, but right now I'd call the position a "question mark."

TE-This is an insanely deep and veteran group. Smith, Hopper, and Rufdal are all legit starting TEs and then there is a slew of young talent behind them. However none are spectacular and the offense doesn't use them all that much (they say they are going to utilize them more, but that always seem to say that). The MW lost of ton of TE talent this year, so one of these could step up to garner some post season awards, but most likely this just a solid, starless group.

OL-This has been an area of struggle for about the last four years. Some of that blame can be put on Hank holding onto the ball too long and the RBs lack of depth and not being able to stay healthy, but this has been an average/subpar group for a while now. Last year, they had some youth and dealt with a slew of injuries. This year, the starting five looks solid. They have a couple guys behind them that started games last year, but injuries could potentially hinder this group. KHG returns at Center after missing last year leading to a comical amount of bad snaps. They rotated four different guys into that spot trying to find anyone who could just get the ball to Hank. OGs, Curran and Dooley go from inexperienced starters last year to experienced vets. LT Ojukwu is another in the long line of Boise LTs who will be in the NFL. RT is likely Beresford who transfers in from Wazzu where he started last year. This looks like it could be one of the better OLs Boise has had in a while if they can stay healthy.

DL-This is a deep and talented group with many that will compete for All MW honors, and this is even after former All MW DE Shane Irwin announced his medical retirement yesterday. This is a veteran group that goes 2 and 3 deep at every position. They started out the season slow and injury riddled, but finished well and should be a dominant Line. Losing Irwin hurts a little bit, but they have a mountain of edge rushers and bring in three highly recruited transfers at that position. This would likely be the strength of the team if it wasn't for the DB (below).

LB-Without question the biggest question mark on the entire team and would be the only position that would prevent this D from being dominant. They lose All MW NB and WLB, but return a solid, but not great MLB in Noa. As of now it looks like the veteran back-ups are set up to take those open spots. Last year this group was average and if the back-ups take over it'll likely be less than that. The point of optimism for a fan is that the highest rated position group in the last two recruiting classes has been at LB. Question is, are any of them ready to contribute? If any of those guys can step up, this could be a decent group. If not, it will be the weakest position on the team.

DB-This is the strength of the team. They were inexperienced last year and then were ravished by injuries which built this years experience where they now have four CBs returning that started, at least, five games last year. Led by Markel Reed who is the #1 guy and a likely NFL guy after missing the 2nd half of the season. SS JL Skinner is a DPOTY candidate and FS Jones will likely join him on an NFL roster next year. Both safety back ups started at least one game last year and looked good in their time. This is a deep and talented group and should the one of the, if not the, best defensive backfields in league.

So, what are your expectations for your team? Optimism reigns supreme in the offseason, so wha chu got? 

 

Where did you get the speed info? Absolutely no surprise regarding Green or Bolt.  

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On 6/10/2022 at 3:35 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said:

 

Where did you get the speed info? Absolutely no surprise regarding Green or Bolt.  

BJ Rains and IST were reporting it a couple days ago. They weren't 40 times, they highest top end speed. Both were 22 mph and change. Green was only slightly behind Bolt. Apparently, Bolt was 2nd last year behind only Shakir.

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Nice review on Boise. It always helps to have a returning qb and experienced O-line.

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On 6/10/2022 at 2:57 PM, kingpotato said:

Let's see what everyone thinks about their team before the preseason mags all come out.

Boise State:

QB-Hank is back for his 4th season as starter. He was 2nd highest rated recruits Boise has ever had, but hasn't really lived up to that. He's been above average, but not much more than that. Further more, he hasn't really improved a whole bunch since his FR year. So I'm not really expecting a whole lot more than he's shown. He's tough as nails, the team loves him, but he still holds on the ball too long, and when the ball is in his hands late in the game, he rarely comes up with the drive needed. Behind him is a highly talented big, strong, fast QB. I expect Jaylon Green (who just clocked as the 2nd faster player on the team) to get in 4-8 times a game in package plays. Also have Sam Vidlak (transfer from Oregon State). This should easily be the 3rd strongest QB room in the league behind Fresno and USU. If Hank can get rid of the ball faster and bump his efficiency up slightly into that 150-160 range, this should be a pretty good group.

RB-After 11 straight seasons with a 1,000 yard RB (national record), Boise hasn't had one two years in a row. Most of that can be attributed to George Holani not being able to stay healthy, with a bunch more blame on an OL that has been subpar for four years. When healthy, Holani is an All Conference/NFL caliber back, but he seems to be made of glass. They do bring in 4**** RB Ashton Jeanty, who came in early and is getting a lot of run and looked good in the spring. If those two stay healthy, they should be one of the better one/two punches in the league. If not, they only have serviceable guys after that,

WR-This is the biggest question mark on the offensive side of the ball. Stephan Cobbs is set for a breakout year. He's a likely All MW caliber receiver if he can stay healthy (which he hasn't done to this point). Had Octavius Evans decided to return, I'd feel good about the WRs. But since he didn't, I'm a little more concerned. Koetter and Bowens are serviceable vets, but unspectacular. If they end up being the 2 and 3, the WR group will be average. They'll be really good if the young WRs, Caples and Bolt, can step into that role. Caples was the highest rated recruit in his class and showed a few flashes as a FR playing behind a veteran group. They need him to step up now. Austin Bolt is very intriguing. He is the only Idaho high school athlete to ever win POTY in both football and basketball. They brought him in to play TE, but going into his 3rd year, he hasn't been able to gain the weight to play there and has now moved to WR. He is officially the fastest player on the team and has a big frame at 6-3, 210#s. If those two can step up, they'll be good, but right now I'd call the position a "question mark."

TE-This is an insanely deep and veteran group. Smith, Hopper, and Rufdal are all legit starting TEs and then there is a slew of young talent behind them. However none are spectacular and the offense doesn't use them all that much (they say they are going to utilize them more, but that always seem to say that). The MW lost of ton of TE talent this year, so one of these could step up to garner some post season awards, but most likely this just a solid, starless group.

OL-This has been an area of struggle for about the last four years. Some of that blame can be put on Hank holding onto the ball too long and the RBs lack of depth and not being able to stay healthy, but this has been an average/subpar group for a while now. Last year, they had some youth and dealt with a slew of injuries. This year, the starting five looks solid. They have a couple guys behind them that started games last year, but injuries could potentially hinder this group. KHG returns at Center after missing last year leading to a comical amount of bad snaps. They rotated four different guys into that spot trying to find anyone who could just get the ball to Hank. OGs, Curran and Dooley go from inexperienced starters last year to experienced vets. LT Ojukwu is another in the long line of Boise LTs who will be in the NFL. RT is likely Beresford who transfers in from Wazzu where he started last year. This looks like it could be one of the better OLs Boise has had in a while if they can stay healthy.

DL-This is a deep and talented group with many that will compete for All MW honors, and this is even after former All MW DE Shane Irwin announced his medical retirement yesterday. This is a veteran group that goes 2 and 3 deep at every position. They started out the season slow and injury riddled, but finished well and should be a dominant Line. Losing Irwin hurts a little bit, but they have a mountain of edge rushers and bring in three highly recruited transfers at that position. This would likely be the strength of the team if it wasn't for the DB (below).

LB-Without question the biggest question mark on the entire team and would be the only position that would prevent this D from being dominant. They lose All MW NB and WLB, but return a solid, but not great MLB in Noa. As of now it looks like the veteran back-ups are set up to take those open spots. Last year this group was average and if the back-ups take over it'll likely be less than that. The point of optimism for a fan is that the highest rated position group in the last two recruiting classes has been at LB. Question is, are any of them ready to contribute? If any of those guys can step up, this could be a decent group. If not, it will be the weakest position on the team.

DB-This is the strength of the team. They were inexperienced last year and then were ravished by injuries which built this years experience where they now have four CBs returning that started, at least, five games last year. Led by Markel Reed who is the #1 guy and a likely NFL guy after missing the 2nd half of the season. SS JL Skinner is a DPOTY candidate and FS Jones will likely join him on an NFL roster next year. Both safety back ups started at least one game last year and looked good in their time. This is a deep and talented group and should the one of the, if not the, best defensive backfields in league.

So, what are your expectations for your team? Optimism reigns supreme in the offseason, so wha chu got? 

Send this to all the preseason mags. It’s as good a write up on Boise State as you’ll find anywhere. 

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On 6/10/2022 at 1:57 PM, kingpotato said:

So, what are your expectations for your team? Optimism reigns supreme in the offseason, so wha chu got? 

Same as your post, but you forgot Special Teams. The freshman aussie punter looks like he can boom it. And automatic kicker Jonah Dalmas returns for his third year (33-36 career field goals). Cobbs/Caples look most likely to be PR/KRs.

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On 6/10/2022 at 9:21 PM, bsu_alum9 said:

Same as your post, but you forgot Special Teams. The freshman aussie punter looks like he can boom it. And automatic kicker Jonah Dalmas returns for his third year (33-36 career field goals). Cobbs/Caples look most likely to be PR/KRs.

I almost did that, but it was already long enough. Kicker is on pace to be the best ever at Boise (% wise). Excitement about the Aussie punter, and Valesquez was inconsistent and average, so he'll likely meet that. Cobbs is statistically the best punt returner in the country (on a very, very, very small sample size). Wild card for KR is Austin Bolt. He did both KR and PR in high school and has the highest top end speed on the team. Not sure how well he reads blocks, but if he gets a wedge, he could be gone.

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On 6/10/2022 at 8:21 PM, Spaztecs said:

Nice review on Boise. It always helps to have a returning qb and experienced O-line.

2nd year OL coach. Let's see what he can do with a veteran line. Hank is a good QB. Let's see what he's capable of if he has a decent run game... which is possible this year. I don't think the offense is the strength of the team, so if they can be pretty good, that should be enough.

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On 6/10/2022 at 8:37 PM, kingpotato said:

2nd year OL coach. Let's see what he can do with a veteran line. Hank is a good QB. Let's see what he's capable of if he has a decent run game... which is possible this year. I don't think the offense is the strength of the team, so if they can be pretty good, that should be enough.

Optimistic that new TE coach (Nate Potter) helps OL, Keith Bhonapha same at RB. Staff appears better on paper than in Avalos’ first season.

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Great post @kingpotato and thank you for the info.  If/when I have some time I'll attempt to provide similar info for SDSU unless others can take up the torch in which case I'll try to add to what they post, if there is anything to add. 

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On 6/10/2022 at 10:05 PM, Fowl said:

Great post @kingpotato and thank you for the info.  If/when I have some time I'll attempt to provide similar info for SDSU unless others can take up the torch in which case I'll try to add to what they post, if there is anything to add. 

I'm interested in what SDSUfan has to say. Looks like a lot of the hopes are based on the new transfer QB. Defense should be great, as always. OL is being rebuilt. Mathews is a stud. I don't see a stud RB. Let me know what you think.

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As to my Aztecs, i will do the Defense in this post and tackle the O in another post or another Aztec fan can handle it.

D-Line: How do you replace the MW Defensive POY ?   Add to that the loss of four experienced rotation players to graduation or transfer ?

You start with super seniors- defensive disruptors Keyshawn Banks and Jonah Tavai. Add two year letterman and rotation player, Garret Fountain,  mix in  transfers Justus Tavai, (Jonahs little Brah),  Devin Lamp from Tulsa,  a couple of JC transfers, and hope a bunch of Red Shirts develop quickly.

The top four guys will be very good. Behind them will be a work in progress. As a unit they will take a step back from last seasons  group, but they will still be a top 5 unit in the MW.

 

LB -  Back is Super Senior- pass rushing Ace, Caden McDonald,  who will be joined by his little brother, Cooper, who transfered in from Washington. Michael Shawcroft emerged as the Will LB last season and will joined by experienced rotation players Seydrick Lakalaka and Vai Kaho. Again the front line is solid, the newcomers will be the question. This unit looks like a reload.

Secondary - Questions abound with the loss of numerous experienced and talented DB's. Only four upperclassmen return. Seniors Sedarius Barfield, Dallas Branch, and Aztec safety Patrick McMorris, whom the Coaching Staff is expecting a big year, along with Jr Corner Noah Tumblin. Add in experienced and talented Super Sophs Noah Avinger and CJ Baskerville.

There is alot of seriously talented and experienced DB's in this group. Despite the graduation losses, this position group is looking more like a Reload instead of a Rebuild.

 

Overall, the Defense won't be as dominating as the last three units. But, it will still be very good and will keep the offense in every game. 

This will be the first chance to see how Kurt Mattix and Brady's  recruits have developed.

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hawai’i is a very unpredictable team. new coach and lots of starters leaving. nobody has film on us is a positive.

qb: we are loaded. 8/10

o line: solid. 7/10

d line: serviceable. 6/10

lb: underrated. 7/10

db: thin. 5/10

rec: young but dangerous. 7/10

rb: good enough. 7/10

kicking: best in conference. 10/10

 

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On 6/10/2022 at 10:56 PM, kalua pig said:

hawai’i is a very unpredictable team. new coach and lots of starters leaving. nobody has film on us is a positive.

qb: we are loaded. 8/10

o line: solid. 7/10

d line: serviceable. 6/10

lb: underrated. 7/10

db: thin. 5/10

rec: young but dangerous. 7/10

rb: good enough. 7/10

kicking: best in conference. 10/10

 

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On 6/10/2022 at 9:31 PM, kingpotato said:

I almost did that, but it was already long enough. Kicker is on pace to be the best ever at Boise (% wise). Excitement about the Aussie punter, and Valesquez was inconsistent and average, so he'll likely meet that. Cobbs is statistically the best punt returner in the country (on a very, very, very small sample size). Wild card for KR is Austin Bolt. He did both KR and PR in high school and has the highest top end speed on the team. Not sure how well he reads blocks, but if he gets a wedge, he could be gone.

Straight-line top-end speed is maybe not as important for punt returner, though it doesn't hurt.  Quick acceleration and deceleration seem more valuable at that position.  The straight-line top-end speed trait is more valuable on kick return.

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On 6/13/2022 at 3:53 PM, Pelado said:

Straight-line top-end speed is maybe not as important for punt returner, though it doesn't hurt.  Quick acceleration and deceleration seem more valuable at that position.  The straight-line top-end speed trait is more valuable on kick return.

Bolt is very raw as a WR. Yeah, he can go long and beat people but he has a long way to go to master route running. Speed and good hands are god given assets. You can’t teach those. The rest can be learned. 

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On 6/13/2022 at 3:53 PM, Pelado said:

Straight-line top-end speed is maybe not as important for punt returner, though it doesn't hurt.  Quick acceleration and deceleration seem more valuable at that position.  The straight-line top-end speed trait is more valuable on kick return.

Yeah, I'd assume Cobbs or Caples will be in line for PR.

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