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25 years ago today, Tupac Amaru Shakur passed.

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3 hours ago, Akkula said:

You have a very narrow definition of what a "musician" is.  In your definition unless you play the guitar you are not a musician.  No lead singers, pop singers, etc., would be a musician either.  

The 90s was the birthplace of a lot of electronic music.  You want to know why Gene Simmons says rock is dead?  Because few have the need or the want to have to play a guitar or keyboard any longer to make music.  

Tupac made a lot of socially conscious music and a lot of punk and bands like "Rage Against the Machine" were making a lot of this type of music as well.  Tupac also made violent, sexist, and party music but he was a very broad person.  He wasn't just a pop creation.  Dr. Dre basically created a whole electronic music scene and a lot of it was influenced by funk and disco of earlier generation.  Dre could make some amazing beats and he contributed not only to Tupac but MANY others.   You could listen to the FULL double album of "all eyes on me" and it was great...not poppy at all...but great...great!  Doggy Style and the Chronic were like this too!

As usual, you sound like an old man screaming, "Get off my lawn."

I will also put on my "old man" hat for a bit.  In the 1980s rock became too decadent...there was a lot of trash hair metal for every decent Motley Crue and Poison.  Too much trash.   I kinda feel like that is the state of hip hop today.  Back in the 90s it wasn't all about "Bling" and autotune.  Some of the shit today sounds tired and if very "safe."  1990s hip hop was nothing if not edgy.  I hope hip hop doesn't go the same direction to kill itself like rock did in the 80s.  Perhaps rock died because nobody wants to be a traditional musician any longer, who knows!

Let me clarify something ……Lenin is dead. Rock still out draws any other type of music around the world, and it’s not even close. Go start your new commie country and leave music analysis to others.

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9 minutes ago, Nevada Convert said:

It’s an easily proven fact, pippy. In fact, forget rock. Hard rock out draws any other music in the world. 

false.  Unless U2 is hard rock? Taylor Swift is also in that $6.5 million gross per show range, so if she wanted to do more than 53 shows a year she would dominate the Stones.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_concert_tours

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4 minutes ago, Nevada Convert said:

You need to go by attendance and be honest. Fans are how popularity is measured. AC/DC, Iron Maiden, etc. outdraw most. Looks like I’ll have to look it up for you in a bit. 

You want per show or per tour?  Or largest attendance?

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2 minutes ago, Nevada Convert said:

What does “All Time” have to do with now? Try the last 3-4 years since we’ve had the pandemic. 

 

 

4 minutes ago, Nevada Convert said:

You need to go by attendance and be honest. Fans are how popularity is measured. AC/DC, Iron Maiden, etc. outdraw most. Looks like I’ll have to look it up for you in a bit. 

 

Dude views and listens are how popularity is measured, not if some old boomers with disposable cash want to go watch.

 

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16 minutes ago, Nevada Convert said:

You need to go by attendance and be honest. Fans are how popularity is measured. AC/DC, Iron Maiden, etc. outdraw most. Looks like I’ll have to look it up for you in a bit. 

In college football terms, Iron Maiden has worse attendance per show than the Nevada Wolf Pack when touring.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Souls_World_Tour

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legacy_of_the_Beast_World_Tour

AC/DC no doubt is up there, 2.3M in attendance over 58 shows (average about the same as a top contender MWC team single game attendance in a good year (Boise/SUDS/Fresno)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Filter_Tour

U2, Ed Sheeran, and Taylor Swift on the other hand are more like Alabama or Michigan.  100k+ wherever there is capacity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innocence_%2B_Experience_Tour

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/÷_Tour

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_Swift's_Reputation_Stadium_Tour

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20 hours ago, bsu_alum9 said:

In college football terms, Iron Maiden has worse attendance per show than the Nevada Wolf Pack when touring.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Souls_World_Tour

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legacy_of_the_Beast_World_Tour

AC/DC no doubt is up there, 2.3M in attendance over 58 shows (average about the same as a top contender MWC team single game attendance in a good year (Boise/SUDS/Fresno)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Filter_Tour

U2, Ed Sheeran, and Taylor Swift on the other hand are more like Alabama or Michigan.  100k+ wherever there is capacity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innocence_%2B_Experience_Tour

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/÷_Tour

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_Swift's_Reputation_Stadium_Tour

It's like convert is just begging to be owned continually.  lmao.

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