Spaztecs Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 On 4/11/2023 at 1:46 PM, TCU Robert said: plus it would probably mean that the PAC12 would add more MWC schools. If the PAC12 loses Arizona and Colorado and is down to 8 schools they would probably add Colorado St and Boise St. Not Fresno or SDSU ? Quote "You are what your record says you are." Bill Parcells Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSF Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 On 4/11/2023 at 5:51 PM, AztecSU said: You should know that the 2021 SDSU/BSU game has better ratings than any Zona game last season. Including their game against UCLA on Fox and their rivalry game against ASU. Please take Zona. Lol...the most high profile game in the conference, against the biggest name in the conference, on big CBS on Black Friday with minimal competition, and the game managed a 1.15. That Az/UCLA game got a 1.1(a diff of 90k viewers) while being on at 10:30 ET. Despite your attempt, that's not a selling point. Quote The louder someone claims to know something, the less they generally know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaylorGuy314 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 On 4/11/2023 at 5:26 PM, AztecSU said: I mean I'm sure they dont want CU to go...but losing AZ for football is not hurting the PAC...meanwhile the B12 in angling to be THE premier CBB conference so their value to the B12 is probably more...I honestly think AZ moving might be a win win. at 9 the PAC could add SDSU/SMU and one of BSU/Tulane/CSU and be just fine if not outright better in football. In football, based on the last 10 or so years, you're right- the PAC might be more competitive to lose those programs. The issue won't be quality of competition, it will be money and what effect those two leaving would have on media rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecSU Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 On 4/11/2023 at 4:20 PM, RSF said: Lol...the most high profile game in the conference, against the biggest name in the conference, on big CBS on Black Friday with minimal competition, and the game managed a 1.15. That Az/UCLA game got a 1.1(a diff of 90k viewers) while being on at 10:30 ET. Despite your attempt, that's not a selling point. UCLA v Arizona on Fox did lower numbers than SDSU v BSU on CBS. You can spin however you want. It's telling that Zona has some many MW like tv ratings for their games. But please add them to the B12. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSF Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 On 4/11/2023 at 6:38 PM, AztecSU said: UCLA v Arizona on Fox did lower numbers than SDSU v BSU on CBS. You can spin however you want. It's telling that Zona has some many MW like tv ratings for their games. But please add them to the B12. You're the one doing the spinning. You left out a lot of salient information. For obvious reasons. It's telling that you had to leave stuff out to try and validate your point. Quote The louder someone claims to know something, the less they generally know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar/Frog Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 Well, once CU and AZ go to the B12 and OU and UW go to the B10, and SDSU, CSU, SMU, and UNLV go to the PAC, all the fans of former MWC teams can still come together on the MWC Board. Will the MWC backfill with Texas schools or FCS schools? Quote Bye Bye, Best of luck! !! May the MWC survive, and prosper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaylorGuy314 Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 I cant get a read on the B1G regarding UW and UO. It seems crazy to me that they took USC and UCLA on such an island. However, the message has been clear that adding UW and UO didn't add the necessary revenue to justify the expansion. If the B1G doesn't make a move, the PAC deal is subpar, and Arizona and Colorado do come to the Big 12, I believe UW could be the next one to potentially come over. Maybe they only stay for 10 years until the ACC falls apart and are picked up as part of another round of B1G growth at that time but I dont see them staying in the PAC if programs start leaving. It seems like Oregon feels they could make it on their own before they'd move to the Big 12. Arizona State is also a weird one. They are definitely more enamored with making the PAC work than Arizona but if Arizona bolts, I wonder if that tune would change quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utgrizfan Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 On 4/11/2023 at 4:49 PM, TCU Robert said: Rumor is that Colorado will announce joining the BIG12 on April 20th If this happens (doubtful) would be a simple fix to add CSU as a replacement or would maybe still pursue either SMU or someone else who would increase the value more. The MWC down to 10 schools could backfill with 2 Texas schools (per Canzanos article) and personally would be hopeful both MSU and Montana would get the call, but I know that won't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaylorGuy314 Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 On 4/11/2023 at 8:05 PM, utgrizfan said: If this happens (doubtful) would be a simple fix to add CSU as a replacement or would maybe still pursue either SMU or someone else who would increase the value more. The MWC down to 10 schools could backfill with 2 Texas schools (per Canzanos article) and personally would be hopeful both MSU and Montana would get the call, but I know that won't happen. I've read before about the apprehension to adding Montana and Montana State and I don't really understand it. Who is a better fit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecSU Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 On 4/11/2023 at 4:40 PM, RSF said: You're the one doing the spinning. You left out a lot of salient information. For obvious reasons. It's telling that you had to leave stuff out to try and validate your point. You mean like when you posted about Zaninovich leaving the PAC but omitted that the PAC12 was retaining him in his new role with TrailRunner international? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelado Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 On 4/11/2023 at 8:32 PM, AztecSU said: You mean like when you posted about Zaninovich leaving the PAC but omitted that the PAC12 was retaining him in his new role with TrailRunner international? Reminded me of when I left my previous employer to start my own company. Much of my work that first couple of years was on behalf of my former employer and/or its investors. A big part of the reason I decided to go out on my own? My employer had filed a bankruptcy petition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecSU Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 On 4/11/2023 at 7:36 PM, Pelado said: Reminded me of when I left my previous employer to start my own company. Much of my work that first couple of years was on behalf of my former employer and/or its investors. A big part of the reason I decided to go out on my own? My employer had filed a bankruptcy petition. So you're saying he's setting himself and TrailRunner up to look bad when they go down supposedly? Ok then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorCalCoug Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 On 4/11/2023 at 4:51 PM, AztecSU said: You should know that the 2021 SDSU/BSU game has better ratings than any Zona game last season. Including their game against UCLA on Fox and their rivalry game against ASU. Please take Zona. Keep telling yourself that…. If AZ and Colorado leave they get replaced with “.500 G5 Trash”…. Only an idiot would think that’s not a loss for a conference already struggling with its value. You need to stop drinking that PAC Kool Aid. This is among the worst of your PAC goggled takes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSF Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 New B10 commissioner apparently hired. Lots of TV experience. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/36162913/big-ten-hire-tony-petitti-next-commissioner%3Fplatform%3Damp&ved=2ahUKEwjc4vjJtqP-AhWfD1kFHfBDAv4Qr_oDKAB6BAhIEAE&usg=AOvVaw0MMhmFytH3vSx7c36ZF0YY Quote The louder someone claims to know something, the less they generally know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorCalCoug Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 On 4/11/2023 at 5:30 PM, BaylorGuy314 said: In football, based on the last 10 or so years, you're right- the PAC might be more competitive to lose those programs. The issue won't be quality of competition, it will be money and what effect those two leaving would have on media rights. Nonsense, in his mind they could replace Arizona and Colorado with BSU/Tulane/CSU and the PAC wouldn’t skip a beat. He’s delusional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecSU Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 On 4/11/2023 at 4:30 PM, BaylorGuy314 said: In football, based on the last 10 or so years, you're right- the PAC might be more competitive to lose those programs. The issue won't be quality of competition, it will be money and what effect those two leaving would have on media rights. Like I said, I'm sure they don't want to lose CU. But Zona is just decent to good basketball and rarely good football and they dont own the big metro in the state like ASU does. In ten years SDSU/ASU will have more value to the PAC than UA/ASU. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utgrizfan Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 On 4/11/2023 at 8:27 PM, BaylorGuy314 said: I've read before about the apprehension to adding Montana and Montana State and I don't really understand it. Who is a better fit? In terms of geographical location, facilities, fan support, a great rivalry game and overall sports performance we'd fit perfectly with the MWC (and immediately have some the best Fan Support and Facilities). The issue is we do practically nothing for Media $$ or recruiting. Unfortunately money is everything these days and on top of the fact we will not leave the other school, MSU and Montana are a package deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaztecs Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 On 4/11/2023 at 11:36 PM, utgrizfan said: In terms of geographical location, facilities, fan support, a great rivalry game and overall sports performance we'd fit perfectly with the MWC (and immediately have some the best Fan Support and Facilities). The issue is we do practically nothing for Media $$ or recruiting. Unfortunately money is everything these days and on top of the fact we will not leave the other school, MSU and Montana are a package deal. Do the Montana's have the jack to sustain a G5 Level Athletic Department ? They would have to seriously increase Sports, Scholarships, and Spending. Much if what I have read is they are happy where they are. True/False ? Quote "You are what your record says you are." Bill Parcells Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorCalCoug Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 On 4/11/2023 at 11:02 PM, AztecSU said: Like I said, I'm sure they don't want to lose CU. But Zona is just decent to good basketball and rarely good football and they dont own the big metro in the state like ASU does. In ten years SDSU/ASU will have more value to the PAC than UA/ASU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecSU Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Love that @NorCalCoug and @RSF are vouching for the quality of Zona whose football team can’t get better ratings that SDSU while SDSU is still in the MW. These are geniuses at work guys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
