Conference Realignment thread

[Did I hear a WOOSH?]

On 3/27/2022 at 5:31 PM, wolfpack1 said:

You won't acknowledge the truth of what happened and was going to happen in expansion and when everything went against your BS stuff, which it was all BS, and now making excuses for why something didn't happen ingoring all the facts out there. 

And once again you start to change your point again when facts slap you in the face. If the presdient's wanted to expand, they would have expanded despite what their TV partners wanted to do, but there wasnt a program out there that would have made MWC better so why expand again? AAC grabbed those schools out of desperation and because ESPN assure AAC they would be fine with those schools. AAC commish doesn't move unless he is given the OK or orders from ESPN.  North Texas, Texas St, UT-Arlington do not make MWC a better conference, none of the schools in Texas really do, and they don't make AAC any better either.  

Will things change by 2025 possibly but I doubt it but you don't expand just for the sake of expanding. That is something that you just don't understand

No.

[Coog kev]

It's been a long day.  I'm a bit tired to read through all of the latest.  Not sure if this has been posted.

Here We Go

The good thing about SI is that once they post something, they link to other things via the source article. 

IF XII decides to go to XIV for business purposes, ya, sure, why not.  Yawn ish. 

[alum93]

On 4/4/2022 at 8:17 PM, Coog kev said:

It's been a long day.  I'm a bit tired to read through all of the latest.  Not sure if this has been posted.

Here We Go

The good thing about SI is that once they post something, they link to other things via the source article. 

IF XII decides to go to XIV for business purposes, ya, sure, why not.  Yawn ish. 

2 teams moving to Big 12 won't be a dramatic shift.  AAC, MWC, CUSA, Sun Belt, MAC all look pretty stable and have numbers after the latest round of movement.  The huge change for conferences will be if the P5 goes to P4 and top B12 teams move to P12 or BiG.  Outside of that,  G5 looks stable for awhile.  Even if the MWC lost 2 teams,  they wouldn't have to add anyone immediately.  

[Spaztecs]

On 4/5/2022 at 9:36 AM, alum93 said:

2 teams moving to Big 12 won't be a dramatic shift.  AAC, MWC, CUSA, Sun Belt, MAC all look pretty stable and have numbers after the latest round of movement.  The huge change for conferences will be if the P5 goes to P4 and top B12 teams move to P12 or BiG.  Outside of that,  G5 looks stable for awhile.  Even if the MWC lost 2 teams,  they wouldn't have to add anyone immediately.  

The only way that happens is if Boise goes to the New XII and SDSU goes to the Pac. 

The former is a coin toss. The latter ain't happening, even if USC leaves.

[wolfpack1]

From what been reading from some people if there is any movement coming it would be from ACC or B10 which that could start the next avalanche of moves but if they don't move, I don't see anyone other than CUSA making moves in the immediate future

[wolfpack1]

Stonehill College has accepted an invitation from Northeast Conference and will be moving up to Division I on July 1, 2022

University of New Haven was involved in the discussion for a Northeast Conference invite but at least two schools were against it because of questions of their academic record.

MAAC has reportedly had talks with Mt. St. Mary's to join their conference and Northeast Conference is still looking for another school to potentially join with a chance another school leaves and has talked to Mercyhurst about joining Northeast Conference. There is also interest from Northeast Conference in one or two MEAC schools but seems little chance of that happening. 

America East is also semi quietly looking for another potentially addition

[818SUDSFan]

On 4/5/2022 at 3:35 PM, Spaztecs said:

The only way that happens is if Boise goes to the New XII and SDSU goes to the Pac. 

The former is a coin toss. The latter ain't happening, even if USC leaves.

Way back when, you were a pretty good poster on the old Aztectalk while still living in SD. Now you're just a crotchety old fart who doesn't want to see his alma mater move up in the world.

There's no better example of how FOS you are than that for many, many years, people said the P12 would never take UU. SDSU is unlikely to get into the P12 in our lifetimes (I'm 67) but that doesn't mean it will never happen.

[NewGuy12]

Apparently there's news that Gonzaga is gonna join the big east for next season

[lakesbison]

NDSU to replace Boise St.   you're good.  NDSU will be better than them easily. 

[Spaztecs]

On 4/6/2022 at 2:23 PM, 818SUDSFan said:

Way back when, you were a pretty good poster on the old Aztectalk while still living in SD. Now you're just a crotchety old fart who doesn't want to see his alma mater move up in the world.

There's no better example of how FOS you are than that for many, many years, people said the P12 would never take UU. SDSU is unlikely to get into the P12 in our lifetimes (I'm 67) but that doesn't mean it will never happen.

I haven't lived in SD since the late 80's.

As much as I would love to see my Aztecs in the Pac, it won't happen because those UC Chancellors and Presidents shudder at the thought of a CSU, even one that has achieved R1 status, can be in their club.

Also, the Pac boys don't want the Aztecs skimming off the four and five star SD County recruits.

Also, I never said the Utes should not be part of the Pac. As a closet Ute fan, i was and still am all for it.

I fully believe after watching College Ball for my 62 years, that both SDSU and UNLV would be Home Runs for the Conference.

I also know it won't happen because of the Old Boys club I mentioned.

[smithy]

For SDSU...the best thing to do is just schedule P12 teams and beat them every time...then your SOS will rise above them and there won't be a need to even join them. If anything FSU,SDSU and SJSU are always in the same boat because the California Politicians will always keep CSU schools as the step child to the Pac Schools in degrees offered and in money. Kind of wish all three schools along with maybe both Cal Polys become more Independent schools and not have to adhere to CSU's rules. 

[alum93]

On 4/7/2022 at 2:20 PM, smithy said:

For SDSU...the best thing to do is just schedule P12 teams and beat them every time...then your SOS will rise above them and there won't be a need to even join them. If anything FSU,SDSU and SJSU are always in the same boat because the California Politicians will always keep CSU schools as the step child to the Pac Schools in degrees offered and in money. Kind of wish all three schools along with maybe both Cal Polys become more Independent schools and not have to adhere to CSU's rules. 

No need to leave the MWC and join a league that has USC, UCLA, Stanford, Washington, Utah, Arizona, and Arizona State?  Alrighty...  I don't see it happening in the short term, but the P12 would be a great move for SDSU.  

[RSF]

On 4/7/2022 at 3:20 PM, smithy said:

For SDSU...the best thing to do is just schedule P12 teams and beat them every time...then your SOS will rise above them and there won't be a need to even join them. If anything FSU,SDSU and SJSU are always in the same boat because the California Politicians will always keep CSU schools as the step child to the Pac Schools in degrees offered and in money. Kind of wish all three schools along with maybe both Cal Polys become more Independent schools and not have to adhere to CSU's rules. 

Great SOSs dont generate great revenue.

[Koji Vu]

On 4/7/2022 at 2:54 PM, RSF said:

Great SOSs dont generate great revenue.

More PAC 12 schools > More MAC schools. 

[Spaztecs]

On 4/7/2022 at 2:49 PM, alum93 said:

No need to leave the MWC and join a league that has USC, UCLA, Stanford, Washington, Utah, Arizona, and Arizona State?  Alrighty...  I don't see it happening in the short term, but the P12 would be a great move for SDSU.  

SDSU has two Pac games per season through 2026. In 2027 and 2028 they will play Mizzou and a Pac School. 

Their future is the MW/Pac I don't see the New14 adding the Aztecs even if Boise gets added.

[Koji Vu]

On 4/7/2022 at 3:05 PM, Spaztecs said:

SDSU has two Pac games per season through 2026. In 2027 and 2028 they will play Mizzou and a Pac School. 

Their future is the MW/Pac I don't see the New14 adding the Aztecs even if Boise gets added.

I'd be OK with four per year.

[jdgaucho]

Back they go?  Lamar reportedly returning to the Southland, for a third time, after one year in the WAC

https://kfdm.com/news/local/lamar-will-leave-wac-and-return-to-southland-conference-sources-say

 

[Wyobraska]

On 4/7/2022 at 7:28 PM, jdgaucho said:

Back they go?  Lamar reportedly returning to the Southland, for a third time, after one year in the WAC

https://kfdm.com/news/local/lamar-will-leave-wac-and-return-to-southland-conference-sources-say

 

It is moves like these why I hope the WAC never tried to go FBS in football again.  

[bigd]

On 4/7/2022 at 6:28 PM, jdgaucho said:

Back they go?  Lamar reportedly returning to the Southland, for a third time, after one year in the WAC

https://kfdm.com/news/local/lamar-will-leave-wac-and-return-to-southland-conference-sources-say

 

Interesting, I wonder if they just figured they'd have a better time competing in the Southland? Or did the WAC encourage them to leave after adding UT Arlington? Once all the dust settles the WAC will be back to 12 members (7 football), and a nice logical division split:

EAST
Abilene Christian
Incarnate Word
Stephen F Austin
Tarleton State
UT Arlington
UTRGV

WEST
Cal Baptist
Grand Canyon
Seattle
Southern Utah
Utah Tech
Utah Valley

I'd imagine that if rumors of Gonzaga leaving the WCC come to fruition that the WCC would seriously consider adding Seattle, putting the WAC back down to 11. Northern Arizona would sure fit nicely in the west...

[wolfpack1]

Maybe the finances were more difficult than they thought it would be with being in the WAC. I mean WAC was going to set up like a Texas division and then a west division in their plans, but kind of odd to go back that is why I wonder if had something to do with their finances.

I don't see Gonzaga leaving, however if they did leave, I don't know if they would take Seattle, I mean if between Grand Canyon and Seattle probably take Seattle first. Grand Canyon has stronger athletic program right now but their whole academics still swirls about them.