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Was looking through the D1 conference wikis, and it looks like the only obvious move remaining is the Horizon adding a school to get to 12, as I imagine they won’t want to stay at 11. I’m actually interested to see what happens there; for a while the Horizon has just poached schools from The Summit, but I’m not really sure the Horizon is better then The Summit anymore. Maybe the turntables like with CUSA and the SBC and The Summit tries to snag a Wisconsin school or two from the Horizon? 

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Well we knew that was going to happen with Sun Belt once the court fights started everyone was going to find a solution to get it done.

I would be surprised if they stayed where they were for a little while, I don't see any other schools that possibly could move on, but maybe Horizon could look. UMKC I think has been looking for another home again they did petitiion Missouri Valley Conference so maybe Horizon goes after them

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Got some possible tidbits to much on for Hump Day:

MAAC is looking to add another school to their conference with Merrimack from Northeast Conference possibly on their list after losing out on Bryant.

Big South and Atlantic Sun have been talking with Queens University in Charlotte about moving up to Division I

Ohio Valley Conference is courting Arkansas-Pine Bluff from SWAC

Missouri St wanting to move up to FCS for football has started up again

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On 3/29/2022 at 8:19 AM, NorCalCoug said:

Interesting….

If you think the BigTen will just sit back and let the SEC blow by them like this you’re sorely mistaken.  They will need to make a move.  Leftover BigXII teams won’t move the needle much to help close the gap but robbing the PAC12/ACC of top schools will (at least somewhat).  I bet the BigTen makes a move at some point.

Thanks for the link.

Diminution of the income of the B12 is patently understandable with the loss of UT and OU. However, the relative decrease in ACC income seems odd and does not bode well for its ability to keep Clemson regardless of how much South Carolina might try to keep the Tigers out. And if Clemson were to go to the money hungry SEC, your prediction about the B1G could prove accurate as UNC might then approach that conference for membership.

It shouldn't be overlooked that the current ACC income is split not just 12 ways as in the Pac and the B12 but 14 ways. Therefore, if the ACC lost Clemson and UNC, the B12 wouldn't be the poor man of the P5, the ACC likely would be.

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On 3/29/2022 at 10:26 AM, SAMO said:

sure but RU isnt a better brand than stanford

Yup and Rotgers (love the name) isn't a better brand than anyone in much of any THING.

No better example of the fragility of their basketball program than almost the first thing on coach Steve Pickiell's bio is that his contract runs through 2030. And although Greg Schiano kicked butt at RU his first go-round, the Scarlet Knights were then in a weaker conference, the BE.

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On 3/30/2022 at 1:09 PM, Aslowhiteguy said:

I almost hope they do. 

yeah, I wouldn't mind if a quasi NFL farm system started with 20 or so major university football programs

then maybe the rest of us could get back to playing "college" football with student athletes :shrug:

chasing realistic goals, like going to the moon, is admirable

chasing unreachable goals, like a NCAA football championship, for a MWC team is just stupid

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On 3/30/2022 at 2:32 PM, renoskier said:

yeah, I wouldn't mind if a quasi NFL farm system started with 20 or so major university football programs

then maybe the rest of us could get back to playing "college" football with student athletes :shrug:

chasing realistic goals, like going to the moon, is admirable

chasing unreachable goals, like a NCAA football championship, for a MWC team is just stupid

That's peasant thinking, dude.

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On 3/30/2022 at 2:32 PM, renoskier said:

yeah, I wouldn't mind if a quasi NFL farm system started with 20 or so major university football programs

then maybe the rest of us could get back to playing "college" football with student athletes :shrug:

chasing realistic goals, like going to the moon, is admirable

chasing unreachable goals, like a NCAA football championship, for a MWC team is just stupid

20 not enough to feed the beast with talent.  Average career not very long in nfl.  Need more teams. 

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9 hours ago, 818SUDSFan said:

 

It shouldn't be overlooked that the current ACC income is split not just 12 ways as in the Pac and the B12 but 14 ways. Therefore, if the ACC lost Clemson and UNC, the B12 wouldn't be the poor man of the P5, the ACC likely would be.

If Clemson looks for an out, so will Notre Damn.

ACC will fall below the B12 at that point.

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9 hours ago, wolfpack1 said:

Notre Dame I don't think will leave independent status for football

Referring to their FB scheduling arrangement. Where's the eyeballs in playing Wake Forest ?

Same with their Olys. A Conference with shrinking revenues is a sinking boat

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On 3/31/2022 at 9:37 AM, Spaztecs said:

Referring to their FB scheduling arrangement. Where's the eyeballs in playing Wake Forest ?

Same with their Olys. A Conference with shrinking revenues is a sinking boat

Wake Forest (who they have yet to play) isnt a problem.  Last year, ND played at Virginia (not exactly a draw themselves), and ABC put it on in primetime.  ABC/ESPN likes the opportunity to get Notre Dame games, and so does NBC.

 

ND isnt worried about revenues.  If they were, they'd fold on independence.

It gives me a headache just trying to think down to your level

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Maybe I'm the one reading between the lines this time, and it is a single anonymous source, but this doesnt sound like a conference looking to add more schools.  As I am prone to say....time will tell.

 

https://theathletic.com/3222097/2022/03/31/inside-the-big-12s-discussions-of-new-divisions-geography-texas-oklahoma-and-other-key-issues-loom/

 

For some, though, it’s hard to shake the feeling that all the 14-team talk still seems a little silly, even as that day is fast approaching. As one source skeptically put it: Does anyone honestly expect Oklahoma and Texas to still be in the Big 12 in 2023 and 2024?

The news this week of Conference USA resolving its separation with Old Dominion, Marshall and Southern Miss and letting them exit this summer does raise that question, which few can answer as the silent game of chicken drags on between the leadership of Oklahoma and Texas and Bowlsby, who has the ironclad grant of rights and no reason to budge.

“In the back of my mind I think, ‘We’re wasting a lot of time here. They’re not going to be here when these new schools come into our league,’” the source said. “But everybody is being so careful right now and not wanting to put their cards on the table.”

It gives me a headache just trying to think down to your level

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11 hours ago, Spaztecs said:

Referring to their FB scheduling arrangement. Where's the eyeballs in playing Wake Forest ?

Same with their Olys. A Conference with shrinking revenues is a sinking boat

That is part of the deal for being in ACC for the other sports, Big 10 was making a play for them at the time to

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On 3/31/2022 at 11:33 AM, RSF said:

Maybe I'm the one reading between the lines this time, and it is a single anonymous source, but this doesnt sound like a conference looking to add more schools.  As I am prone to say....time will tell.

 

https://theathletic.com/3222097/2022/03/31/inside-the-big-12s-discussions-of-new-divisions-geography-texas-oklahoma-and-other-key-issues-loom/

 

For some, though, it’s hard to shake the feeling that all the 14-team talk still seems a little silly, even as that day is fast approaching. As one source skeptically put it: Does anyone honestly expect Oklahoma and Texas to still be in the Big 12 in 2023 and 2024?

The news this week of Conference USA resolving its separation with Old Dominion, Marshall and Southern Miss and letting them exit this summer does raise that question, which few can answer as the silent game of chicken drags on between the leadership of Oklahoma and Texas and Bowlsby, who has the ironclad grant of rights and no reason to budge.

“In the back of my mind I think, ‘We’re wasting a lot of time here. They’re not going to be here when these new schools come into our league,’” the source said. “But everybody is being so careful right now and not wanting to put their cards on the table.”

Honest question, if the SEC isn’t putting pressure on OUT to join before 2025, where is the pressure going to come from that is going to force OUT to make a deal for an early exit? I’m not seeing what the motivation is on their part. Also not really seeing the motivation from the Big 12 to let OUT leave for anything other then the GOR they signed.
 

Just doesn’t really seem like there is much incentive on either side to make a deal. 

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