Conference Realignment thread

[nvspuds]

12 minutes ago, Did I hear a WOOSH? said:

You don’t acknowledge or address what was ever said though.  You ignore then respond with platitudes that equate to ‘like’ farming.  Your list of facts were either irrelevant or insufficient to rebuke anything I was talking about if you were paying attention for example...  Again it should come as no surprise to you that the remaining schools in a dying conference would reach out to gauge interest in joining, it’s called due diligence.  They approached the aac too but why don’t we hear their fans touting that I assume? Because it’s a nothing burger.  
 

No one cares if the presidents of the MWC ultimately said they didn’t want to expand-It’s out of their hands.  Your conference just signed a new deal.  The tv partners aren’t changing it.  How many other conferences have completely changed the makeup of their own contracts to add schools lately? None.  Did you think they would acquiesce the MWC but not any others? The aac (and cusa to lesser extent) expansions were about maintaining current contracts. Tv partners aren’t looking at paying more money to g5 conferences when there’s such big inventory on the table now with the pac, big, sec all entering in negotiations.  The statement from the presidents is basically the scorned lover saying they didn’t like the other guy anyway after getting turned down. But whatever, die on that hill if you want.  

Why is this so important to you?

[SAMO]

18 hours ago, SalinasSpartan said:

I know TX has the most FBS schools, but I was talking about D1 schools in all sports.

my mistake...youre probably right in that regard

[SAMO]

23 hours ago, RSF said:

Well, my father just died, so I cant ask him.  And mom's too upset to ask.

 

 

You are a pathetic little creature.  I feel sorry for you.

very sorry for your loss bro

[AztecSU]

nvm

[818SUDSFan]

On 3/26/2022 at 12:16 PM, Billings said:

Oh I don't know.  UCLA is making strides and coming back to life.  USC is getting there in BB and spending big on FB.  Stanford is static and sports are secondary there,  Cal is a mismanaged mess to be sure.  San Fran in BB made nice strides this year.  There are bright spots.

Lost in the ineptitude of Arizona football is that Cal hasn't been to the Rose Bowl since 1958. Except for several years under Tedford, Cal football has pretty much been a series of decades during which winning a minor bowl game is considered a major achievement. At one point people thought renovation of Memorial Stadium would make a difference but that didn't happen. Cal isn't geared to achieve in football. Too many academic nerds (that's no criticism btw) and it's located in Berserkley where far-left people view football as inconsistent with a logical life. In short, Cal is lousy at football for pretty much the same reasons SEC schools are very good at it.

U$C is primed to become dominant again in that sport. UCLA? I'm highly unimpressed with Chip Kelly. Seems to me he arrived at Oregon at exactly the right time and his career has regressed considerably since. Regarding Stanford, your comment is succinct and spot on.

[wolfpack1]

5 hours ago, nvspuds said:

Why is this so important to you?

Because he is butt hurt that he had all this inside information and none of it was true so he is still trying to show people he has relevance or something like that so that he can show the posts he had about expansion weren't all dog shit

[wolfpack1]

5 hours ago, Did I hear a WOOSH? said:

You don’t acknowledge or address what was ever said though.  You ignore then respond with platitudes that equate to ‘like’ farming.  Your list of facts were either irrelevant or insufficient to rebuke anything I was talking about if you were paying attention for example...  Again it should come as no surprise to you that the remaining schools in a dying conference would reach out to gauge interest in joining, it’s called due diligence.  They approached the aac too but why don’t we hear their fans touting that I assume? Because it’s a nothing burger.  
 

No one cares if the presidents of the MWC ultimately said they didn’t want to expand-It’s out of their hands.  Your conference just signed a new deal.  The tv partners aren’t changing it.  How many other conferences have completely changed the makeup of their own contracts to add schools lately? None.  Did you think they would acquiesce the MWC but not any others? The aac (and cusa to lesser extent) expansions were about maintaining current contracts. Tv partners aren’t looking at paying more money to g5 conferences when there’s such big inventory on the table now with the pac, big, sec all entering in negotiations.  The statement from the presidents is basically the scorned lover saying they didn’t like the other guy anyway after getting turned down. But whatever, die on that hill if you want.  

You won't acknowledge the truth of what happened and was going to happen in expansion and when everything went against your BS stuff, which it was all BS, and now making excuses for why something didn't happen ingoring all the facts out there. 

And once again you start to change your point again when facts slap you in the face. If the presdient's wanted to expand, they would have expanded despite what their TV partners wanted to do, but there wasnt a program out there that would have made MWC better so why expand again? AAC grabbed those schools out of desperation and because ESPN assure AAC they would be fine with those schools. AAC commish doesn't move unless he is given the OK or orders from ESPN.  North Texas, Texas St, UT-Arlington do not make MWC a better conference, none of the schools in Texas really do, and they don't make AAC any better either.  

Will things change by 2025 possibly but I doubt it but you don't expand just for the sake of expanding. That is something that you just don't understand

[Billings]

an insider on the Bisonville NDSU site says they are moving toward AAC membership ;)

[jdgaucho]

6 hours ago, wolfpack1 said:

 

but you don't expand just for the sake of expanding. 

 

Sadly we never got that memo

[wolfpack1]

38 minutes ago, jdgaucho said:

 

Sadly we never got that memo

I think Big West kind of got what they have been looking for with the league by having all California schools except Hawaii in it for now

[jdgaucho]

46 minutes ago, wolfpack1 said:

I think Big West kind of got what they have been looking for with the league by having all California schools except Hawaii in it for now

 

They sorta had no other choice after everyone else settled in the WAC and later, here.  

 

[jdgaucho]

But getting back on topic.

@wolfpack1, I was wrong about our old Texas mates.  UNT will make the AAC better.  Wins in the NCAAT and NIT in back to back years.  If they can maintain this pace they will at least soften the blow of Cincinnati hoops leaving.

They are also supposedly looking to revive baseball.  If they do, that's another sign they're pouring more money into athletics.

[Spaztecs]

17 hours ago, Billings said:

an insider on the Bisonville NDSU site says they are moving toward AAC membership

So much for Conference members from large Metros.

[wolfpack1]

21 hours ago, jdgaucho said:

 

They sorta had no other choice after everyone else settled in the WAC and later, here.  

 

Yea probably but I think it could have also been part of a plan after the fact lets do this and this will help the athletic budgets a ton

[wolfpack1]

21 hours ago, jdgaucho said:

But getting back on topic.

@wolfpack1, I was wrong about our old Texas mates.  UNT will make the AAC better.  Wins in the NCAAT and NIT in back to back years.  If they can maintain this pace they will at least soften the blow of Cincinnati hoops leaving.

They are also supposedly looking to revive baseball.  If they do, that's another sign they're pouring more money into athletics.

Pouring money doesn't bring success and North Texas the jury is still out, and North Texas doesn't anywhere near soften the blow of Cincinnati, C. Florida or Houston leaving. They have a lot to build up for athletics but they have been talking about starting baseball for at least 10 years down there. They need sustained success in basketball, and football to soften a blow, two years doesn't do it for basketball and football is all over the place. Jury is still out but AAC with those schools coming in just turns into C-USA II

[NorCalCoug]

Interesting….

If you think the BigTen will just sit back and let the SEC blow by them like this you’re sorely mistaken.  They will need to make a move.  Leftover BigXII teams won’t move the needle much to help close the gap but robbing the PAC12/ACC of top schools will (at least somewhat).  I bet the BigTen makes a move at some point.

[ph90702]

Zero chance that schools like Stanford, USC, etc. go to the Big Ten.

[RSF]

On 3/29/2022 at 10:19 AM, NorCalCoug said:

Interesting….

If you think the BigTen will just sit back and let the SEC blow by them like this you’re sorely mistaken.  They will need to make a move.  Leftover BigXII teams won’t move the needle much to help close the gap but robbing the PAC12/ACC of top schools will (at least somewhat).  I beg the BigTen makes a move at some point.

 I saw that article.  The ACC is safe for the forseeable future, and if they want to raid the P12 they would need to do something in the next 18-24 months.

And those are projections - which includes a playoff that does not currently exist.  I have little doubt the gap between the Enormous 2 and the Pretty Big 3 will be substantial.  I just happy to still be at the table...even if our servings are smaller.

[NorCalCoug]

On 3/29/2022 at 9:25 AM, ph90702 said:

Zero chance that schools like Stanford, USC, etc. go to the Big Ten.

If it meant getting a $40M or $50M per year bump in conference distribution you bet your sweet ass they would.

[ph90702]

On 3/29/2022 at 9:35 AM, NorCalCoug said:

If it meant getting a $40M or $50M per year bump in conference distribution you bet your sweet ass they would.

Dung, Whitmer!