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8 hours ago, AztecSU said:

Interesting thread on ACC putting CFP expansion talks to bed. ACC commish says he expects more realignment before the end of the current playoff agreement. So much for the Alliance?

 

It could also mean that the ACC thinks that Notre Dame is going to join them as a full member. Supposedly right now the ACC is saying that they will veto any playoff expansion proposal with more than 8 teams, including 6 automatic qualifiers. The idea is that if there are only two at-large spots, that forces Notre Dame to join the ACC as a full member. I can't think of any other realistic P5 realignment scenarios between now and 2025. If any of the P4 wanted any Big 12 schools (or if the Big 12 wanted any G5 schools), they would have invited them already.

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2 hours ago, Reverend said:

Est a dick you know it all f*****.

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First, you should take some deep breaths before you get this worked up over a stupid Internet debate. Second, the point is not that the B1G has no interest in Ga. Tech but rather that the ACC is unlikely to be poached as long as their GOR is in effect.

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2 hours ago, StanfordAggie said:

First, you should take some deep breaths before you get this worked up over a stupid Internet debate. Second, the point is not that the B1G has no interest in Ga. Tech but rather that the ACC is unlikely to be poached as long as their GOR is in effect.

The GOR doesn't mean anything. And he still hasn't done the world a favor ended it all. That's my problem.

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4 hours ago, Gonzagafan2021 said:

Georgia tech is way too down south tbh

Perfect for the Big 10. Get in SEC territory, a big market, and a recruiting hotspot.

Also, the Big 10 goes from New Jersey to Iowa. Does a trip to Atlanta even matter;as far as distance?

For the record I still think the Big 10 is more likely to raid the PAC 12. USC has talked to the Big 10  for several years. Don't care what any know it all ++++ says. It has happened.

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1 hour ago, Reverend said:

Perfect for the Big 10. Get in SEC territory, a big market, and a recruiting hotspot.

Also, the Big 10 goes from New Jersey to Iowa. Does a trip to Atlanta even matter;as far as distance?

For the record I still think the Big 10 is more likely to raid the PAC 12. USC has talked to the Big 10  for several years. Don't care what any know it all ++++ says. It has happened.

Is it possible that some pac 12 leftovers join the mountain west like Washington state and Oregon state?

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38 minutes ago, Gonzagafan2021 said:

Is it possible that some pac 12 leftovers join the mountain west like Washington state and Oregon state?

 

it's possible.  So was some big 12 leftovers joining the american athletic.

 

IOW, no.

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6 minutes ago, jdgaucho said:

 

it's possible.  So was some big 12 leftovers joining the american athletic.

 

IOW, no.

Its interesting cause lets say 6 of the pac 12 go to the B1G. Then most likely Colorado and Utah head to the big 12. That just leaves Oregon state, Arizona state, and Washington State without a conference 

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1 hour ago, Gonzagafan2021 said:

Its interesting cause lets say 6 of the pac 12 go to the B1G. Then most likely Colorado and Utah head to the big 12. That just leaves Oregon state, Arizona state, and Washington State without a conference 

You could say they'd try and keep the brand going. Talk to BYU, that's 6. And try to raid the best of the MWC and get back to the original WAC basically.

Let's say B10 takes the California schools, UW, and Ducks.

Wazzu, OSU, Arizona, Arizona State, Utah, BYU, Boise State, San Diego State, Fresno State, UNLV, Nevada, Hawaii.

Colorado and the front range schools lean B12.

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53 minutes ago, BacksThePack said:

You could say they'd try and keep the brand going. Talk to BYU, that's 6. And try to raid the best of the MWC and get back to the original WAC basically.

Let's say B10 takes the California schools, UW, and Ducks.

Wazzu, OSU, Arizona, Arizona State, Utah, BYU, Boise State, San Diego State, Fresno State, UNLV, Nevada, Hawaii.

Colorado and the front range schools lean 

Hmm maybe conferences merging then?

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3 hours ago, Gonzagafan2021 said:

Its interesting cause lets say 6 of the pac 12 go to the B1G. Then most likely Colorado and Utah head to the big 12. That just leaves Oregon state, Arizona state, and Washington State without a conference 

They keep the PAC name and the exit fees and invite other schools to the PAC.  

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16 team Big Pac 12.

WazzU, Boise, Oregon State, Arizona, Arizona State, Utah, BYU, Colorado

Iowa State, Kansas State, Kansas, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, TCU, Houston, Baylor

 

Would also be a thought. In the AAC's dreams at least. Maybe SDSU could sweet talk their way in over Boise or Houston (flip Colorado to with their old buds)

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12 hours ago, wolfpack1 said:

There has been a reason why West Virginia hasn't been in ACC talks before and that is mostly because of their education standing. I don't know if Duke, N. Carolina and some others there would let them in. Now Big 10 has been looking at schools off and on as well, Kansas being one of them. Pac-12 has also kicked the tires on a few of the Big 12 schools, but to me if any of the bigs move I am thinking it would be Big 10 first

I think the ACC let the academics argument fly out the window when they took in Louisville.

If the B1G wanted Kansas, they'd have already done it.  If the B1G truly has targets, it's some combination of UNC, UVA and Ga Tech to the Southeast or 4 to 6 PAC schools.  I still like the Prestige Worldwide idea of the B1G taking the Cali schools, UO, UW and CU and forming three 7 team divisions with a two-tier playoff (division champs and one wild card).

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8 hours ago, StanfordAggie said:

First, you should take some deep breaths before you get this worked up over a stupid Internet debate. Second, the point is not that the B1G has no interest in Ga. Tech but rather that the ACC is unlikely to be poached as long as their GOR is in effect.

I think the GOR was a deterrent to poaching the ACC until the numbers that have been floated for the next SEC deal came out.  That kind of money could buy a team out of the ACC if they were to leave for the SEC or B1G.

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1 hour ago, BacksThePack said:

16 team Big Pac 12.

WazzU, Boise, Oregon State, Arizona, Arizona State, Utah, BYU, Colorado

Iowa State, Kansas State, Kansas, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, TCU, Houston, Baylor

 

Would also be a thought. In the AAC's dreams at least. Maybe SDSU could sweet talk their way in over Boise or Houston (flip Colorado to with their old buds)

FYI: WSU is f***** if the Pac 12 dissolves. At least Oregon State is upgrading its facilities... but both schools have no real revenue streams and exist only on the sweet P5 TV deal.  They're heading straight to the the MWC West Division. 

 

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18 minutes ago, Koji Vu said:

FYI: WSU is f***** if the Pac 12 dissolves. At least Oregon State is upgrading its facilities... but both schools have no real revenue streams and exist only on the sweet P5 TV deal.  They're heading straight to the the MWC West Division. 

 

Yeah that's what I've realized. It seems like with conference  realignment bottom tier teams like Oregon State and Washington state are in danger of being left out. At least those two teams could finally actually compete in a conference 

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7 hours ago, Gonzagafan2021 said:

Is it possible that some pac 12 leftovers join the mountain west like Washington state and Oregon state?

No. If USC managed to get in the Big 10 they would almost certainly take UCLA or Stanford. Back when the USC to big 10 rumors started it was USC and Texas going. So I doubt anyone has enough value for the Big 10 to invite USC + 1.

The only way the MWC gets a PAC 12 member is if the Big 10 goes to 16 with USC (Stanford or UCLA) and the Big 12 manages to get four, probably Colorado, Utah, and both Arizona schools. Then the ACC would have to take from the Big 12 causing the Big 12 to take more PAC schools. It's just not gonna happen.

I think the ACC is gonna go to 16 as soon as the Big 10 does. The PAC 12 is so full of themselves they probably won't expand and will stay at 10 schools. The Big 12 might expand but they are waiting on the PAC 12 deal and can't do anything else til OU and Texas leave.

16 is the perfect number from what I understand.

4 pods and you play 2 schools from the other pods giving you 9 games a year in conference. Plus teams are guaranteed to play everyone in conference in a four year period.

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2 hours ago, RebelAlliance said:

I think the GOR was a deterrent to poaching the ACC until the numbers that have been floated for the next SEC deal came out.  That kind of money could buy a team out of the ACC if they were to leave for the SEC or B1G.

If that were to happen today, that buyout number would be in the neighborhood of half a billion for each team.

 

Even now, the buyout number is an issue for OU and Texas, and its a fraction of that.

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2 hours ago, RebelAlliance said:

I think the ACC let the academics argument fly out the window when they took in Louisville.

If the B1G wanted Kansas, they'd have already done it.  If the B1G truly has targets, it's some combination of UNC, UVA and Ga Tech to the Southeast or 4 to 6 PAC schools.  I still like the Prestige Worldwide idea of the B1G taking the Cali schools, UO, UW and CU and forming three 7 team divisions with a two-tier playoff (division champs and one wild card).

Knoxville News Sentinel had an article talking about Clemson and Virginia Tech talking to the SEC. The GOR wouldn't matter.

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