Conference Realignment thread

[wolfpack1]

3 hours ago, robe said:

What is the new rules they want?

Some of the rules were about raising stadium requirements for seating, scholarship changes, stuff like that where it would make it hard for schools to essentially move up if they moved up or to finally create the three division system for Division I

[wolfpack1]

3 hours ago, robe said:

The WAC nearly ended the southland conference until the southland gave McNeese st nearly complete control of that conference. 

The Southland Conference was in trouble before that because it had pretty much splittered on two sides for the schools in the Southland almost the same issue for Conference USA where some schools thought the conference was to big. I think the WAC came in talking to those unhappy schools who were looking to potentially leave already and got the offer or like what they were hearing and those schools left. 

[wolfpack1]

3 hours ago, utenation said:

When we inked our current contract, it was one of the best in P5 at the time. Obviously, other conferences have got new deals since then. It's just the natural process of increase.  We won't get B10 or SEC money but unless you can give me real stats that point to otherwise, I'm pretty sure we will get a nice contract. 

As mentioned, the B12 lost their revenue giants and added 4 scrubs.  BYU is solid but they aren't a blue blood. They are getting about 6-7 mill from ESPN right now.  So somehow thinking they will fill the gap of OU and TX is silly.  BYU shares Utah's media market with the Utes and we've done well for ourselves on TV ratings. 

No, B12 and P12 will not get SEC, or B10 money but I do think they get an increase but again not as much as people are thinking. I still think a few million raise for each school isn't out of the question and with ESPN they could pour that money they were paying BYU into a contract with B12

[jdgaucho]

15 minutes ago, wolfpack1 said:

The Southland Conference was in trouble before that because it had pretty much splittered on two sides for the schools in the Southland almost the same issue for Conference USA where some schools thought the conference was to big. I think the WAC came in talking to those unhappy schools who were looking to potentially leave already and got the offer or like what they were hearing and those schools left. 

 

And ironically one of those Southland defectors to the WAC, is now leaving for C-USA.

[utgrizfan]

41 minutes ago, jdgaucho said:

 

And ironically one of those Southland defectors to the WAC, is now leaving for C-USA.

They replaced SHSU already with Incarnate Word which keeps the WAC Texas expansion at 4. Tarleton State has already approved funding to get their Stadium expanded to 20,000 over the next 18 months so I'm expecting them to bolt for CUSA as well at the earliest opportunity. Apparently they've already been in talks with CUSA.

The WAC however will get another football team with UTRGV apparently having a team by 2025. UVU has flirted with the idea of adding football but nothing concrete has come up in regards to it for awhile so after the dust has settled the WAC Football will look like:

Abilene Christian, Lamar, SFA, UIW, UTRGV, UT-Tech, SUU, Tarleton State (*if they don't bolt*)

That's a decent looking FCS Conference however if they have any aspirations for FBS I feel they'd have to get UVU to add Football (largest enrollment in the state and lots of donors), get some Big Sky schools, Dakota State schools and maybe convince NMSU and SHSU to return.

[wolfpack1]

23 minutes ago, jdgaucho said:

 

And ironically one of those Southland defectors to the WAC, is now leaving for C-USA.

Yea because they wanted to move up sooner than the WAC was looking to move up. I think they will wait for things to calm down and I do believe WAC will go after another school

[utgrizfan]

11 minutes ago, wolfpack1 said:

Yea because they wanted to move up sooner than the WAC was looking to move up. I think they will wait for things to calm down and I do believe WAC will go after another school

They tried to get McNeese State but we know how that turned out. Been some rumblings surrounding West Texas A&M making a jump to FCS. Also know NAU is a target as well despite already saying no but alot of that was due to the new President not being hired yet.

[wolfpack1]

1 minute ago, utgrizfan said:

They tried to get McNeese State but we know how that turned out. Been some rumblings surrounding West Texas A&M making a jump to FCS. Also know NAU is a target as well despite already saying no but alot of that was due to the new President not being hired yet.

West Texas A&M has been getting a lot of attention from the WAC

[utgrizfan]

4 minutes ago, wolfpack1 said:

West Texas A&M has been getting a lot of attention from the WAC

They already have facilities that would be great for FCS and $$ to expand if needed

Buffalo Stadium: 8,500-12,000

First United Bank Center: 4,700-6,000

 

[wolfpack1]

5 minutes ago, utgrizfan said:

They already have facilities that would be great for FCS and $$ to expand if needed

Buffalo Stadium: 8,500-12,000

First United Bank Center: 4,700-6,000

 

They would just have to invest some in their programs to build them up more

[StanfordAggie]

8 hours ago, Did I hear a WOOSH? said:

Did you develop this thought before or after the replacement teams went to the final four and cfb playoff? In case you haven’t noticed texas isn’t good and it’s not changing any time soon.  OU will be missed but the four teams added have contributed more than any of the leftovers have aside from Baylor’s run in basketball.  Of course even that is still better than what the PAC has done.  

Did you really just say that UCF and Houston will bring more value to the Big 12 than Texas? That's sufficiently idiotic that I'm not even going to dignify it with a response.

[thedude15]

55 minutes ago, StanfordAggie said:

Did you really just say that UCF and Houston will bring more value to the Big 12 than Texas? That's sufficiently idiotic that I'm not even going to dignify it with a response.

No way in hell they bring more value. You can however say the Ok/Texas replacements strengthen the conference (on average) on the field. But that is way different than bringing in value in terms of dollars. 

[Spaztecs]

9 hours ago, Did I hear a WOOSH? said:

Did you develop this thought before or after the replacement teams went to the final four and cfb playoff? In case you haven’t noticed texas isn’t good and it’s not changing any time soon.  OU will be missed but the four teams added have contributed more than any of the leftovers have aside from Baylor’s run in basketball.  Of course even that is still better than what the PAC has done.  

It will feel like when Utah, BYU and TCU left the MW. That would have been one hell of a FB League.

[StanfordAggie]

14 minutes ago, thedude15 said:

No way in hell they bring more value. You can however say the Ok/Texas replacements strengthen the conference (on average) on the field. But that is way different than bringing in value in terms of dollars. 

Even that is a pretty ridiculous statement. Oklahoma has more CFP appearances than all of the remaining Big 12 members combined. And Texas may be down right now, but when you have as much money as Texas, you won't be down for long. Meanwhile as soon as UCF has a down season or two, they will be nothing but deadweight.

[Del Scorcho]

10 hours ago, Did I hear a WOOSH? said:

Did you develop this thought before or after the replacement teams went to the final four and cfb playoff? In case you haven’t noticed texas isn’t good and it’s not changing any time soon.  OU will be missed but the four teams added have contributed more than any of the leftovers have aside from Baylor’s run in basketball.  Of course even that is still better than what the PAC has done.  

PAC12 finished 13-5 In the NCAA mens basketball tournament last year, with 3 schools advancing to the elite 8. That’s a a record for number of credits won in a single tournament by a conference ($36 million in one tournament). You should stick to what you know Orlando Beach front property and the Waffle House value menu

[Did I hear a WOOSH?]

16 minutes ago, Del Scorcho said:

PAC12 finished 13-5 In the NCAA mens basketball tournament last year, with 3 schools advancing to the elite 8. That’s a a record for number of credits won in a single tournament by a conference ($36 million in one tournament). You should stick to what you know Orlando Beach front property and the Waffle House value menu

Collectively my friend.  Collectively they’re way behind.  Their NET is currently three times worse than the big 12, which doesn’t even include a possible 3-4 new tournament teams coming to the conference.  Please deflect with bad insults some more.  It really takes the heat off you and your deep thoughts.  Really.

[Did I hear a WOOSH?]

2 hours ago, StanfordAggie said:

Did you really just say that UCF and Houston will bring more value to the Big 12 than Texas? That's sufficiently idiotic that I'm not even going to dignify it with a response.

How did you infer that from my comment in the least bit? If you were any more irresponsible with your words I’d swear that you were a halfmanhalfbronco alt.  Sad thing is that you apparently went to Stanford yet he’s smarter than you despite him being a literal horse’s ass.  

[jdgaucho]

If we return to the NCAAs, please give us UCF or SDSU.  Just for kicks.

[utenation]

3 hours ago, StanfordAggie said:

Did you really just say that UCF and Houston will bring more value to the Big 12 than Texas? That's sufficiently idiotic that I'm not even going to dignify it with a response.

Maybe you haven’t heard. Revenue and brand marketing don’t matter when it comes to woosh’s analysis and high level theories. 

Even with Texas being average to shitty lately they still top the charts in just about everything named revenue..

I have no doubt powerhouse AAC programs will double up on Texas’ numbers once they are in The B12.  UCF by themselves might even triple the numbers OU and Texas brought in.

[SalinasSpartan]

2 hours ago, Did I hear a WOOSH? said:

Collectively my friend.  Collectively they’re way behind.  Their NET is currently three times worse than the big 12, which doesn’t even include a possible 3-4 new tournament teams coming to the conference.  Please deflect with bad insults some more.  It really takes the heat off you and your deep thoughts.  Really.

Glad you are doing what I told you to do and stop saying dumb shit to defend the AAC.