Conference Realignment thread

[Chalsean]

15 minutes ago, SAMO said:

you lettin blacks in the temple yet...lol

SAMO©...as an alternative to god...lol
 

 

I'm not sure what ails you, but they have medication for it.

[SAMO]

1 minute ago, BSUFiend said:

I'm not sure what ails you, but they have medication for it.

i take pills everyday fllr...lol

[Aztec1984]

22 hours ago, Jalapeno said:

Those four Cali schools in the PAC has been able to keep a school like SDSU out for years solely because SDSU isn't up to par when it comes to research rankings and probably never has been which appears to be something that will change sooner than later.

If the Pac-12 judged on academics, you should be asking why ASU is in the conference after all.  It's their tier 1 research that has them in the Pac-12 nothing else.

If the Cali schools still don't want SDSU in the conference, the Big 12 would be happy to take the Aztecs down the road.  If you look at the list of tier 1 colleges that are not in P5 conferences, it's getting smaller.

It comes down to us being a CSU school for the most part. Plus, LA has aways considered us to be their market which is why we don't have either a NBA or NHL team.

SDSU is an R2 university for whatever that matters. The only reason we are not an R1 has to deal with our state charter. CSU schools are supposed to teach. UC schools are supposed to do research. However, SDSU does both. We offer some 22 or so doctorates which have to be rubber stamped by a UC school or USC. Not sure how many master degrees we offer, many more than 22 though.

[Aztec1984]

8 hours ago, Wyobraska said:

What if Boise and SDSU leave?

Well, that would be huge. That may happen with a B12 invite, I don't see it with an AAC invite unless they add us with the ability to leave without a penalty. Still, even if AFA and CSU leave I think the MWC is better, especially if we don't add anyone other than Gonzaga.

[Aztec1984]

7 hours ago, Cowboy said:

 

NDSU could be the new Boise State. They've done well on establishing their brand - even from a FCS platform. 

Why not give them a shot?

It is nice that they are just a 3 team stage coach ride from you but it comes down to money. TV sets are money.

[nvspuds]

Cowboy is former frog..

[Aztec1984]

4 hours ago, 415hawaiiboy said:

I think Boise is a good fit for the B12.  People say what about the media markets?  A lot of B12 schools are in college towns.  City of Boise is a good size. 
 

Goodbye  

San Diego: 29

Fresno: 55

Boise: 102

Reno: 104

Just to put the facts out there.

[Runandshoot]

21 hours ago, thedude15 said:

I wish them made it a law you had be in a conference in your census area. Also say if possible the conference must have a team from each state but otherwise takes the top 12 teams. Works for all MW schools lol. With this dream scenario only two states (Alaska and Vermont) would not have a team in a conference.  And 6 of the 9 conferences make sense. 3 are a bit odd. The South Atlantic would have to leave current Big-5 members out, the New England would have 9 current fcs teams and only 1 current Big-5 team, and the Middle Atlantic would only have 7 current fbs teams. Never in a million years would it happen but it would be cool. 

West-Pacific 

USC/UCLA/Stanford/Cal/Wash/Wash State/Oregon/Oregon State/SJSU/Fresno/SDSU/Hawaii

West-Mountain

Arizona/Arizona State/Utah/BYU/Boise/New Mexico/Colorado/Montana/Wyoming/UNLV/Nevada/CSU (or Air Force)

Midwest-West North Central 

North Dakota State/South Dakota State/Minnesota/Nebraska/Kansas/Kansas State/Iowa/Iowa State/Missouri/Missouri State/Northern Iowa/ and one of South Dakota/North Dakota/Southeast Missouri State/Drake

Midwest-East North Central

Wisconsin/Northwestern/Illinois/Purdue/Indiana/Michigan/Michigan State/Ohio State/Cincinnati and three of Northern Illinois/Ohio/Miami Oh/Ball state/Toledo/Bowling Green/Akron/Kent State/Central Michigan/Eastern Michigan/Western Michigan

South- West South Central 

Oklahoma/Oklahoma State/Arkansas/LSU/Texas/Texas Tech/Texas A&M/Houston/TCU/Baylor and I say add Arkansas State and Louisiana Lafayette to have at least two from every state

South- East South Central    

Ole Miss/Mississippi State/Alabama/Auburn/Kentucky/Louisville/Tennessee/Memphis/Western Kentucky/Vanderbilt/UAB/Troy

South- South Atlantic 

Florida/Miami/Georgia/Georgia Tech/South Carolina/Clemson/Maryland/West Virginia/North Carolina/Duke/Virginia/Virginia Tech

Northeast- Mid Atlantic 

Rutgers/Penn State/Temple/Pittsburgh/Army/Syracuse/Buffalo/Villanova/Penn/Cornell/Princeton/Columbia 

Northeast- New England 

Uconn/Boston College/Massachusetts/Maine/Yale/Brown/Harvard/Dartmouth/Rhode Island/New Hampshire/Central Connecticut/Holy Cross 

Dude I has the same Idea for the western schools. It makes too much sense 

[Runandshoot]

The way I see it, if AFA and CSU do leave. Boise and SDSU are probably gone soon. The most logical thing would to destroy the conference, Thompson let it die. 
 

West coast schools should form their own conference, or join the Big West. 
 

Football Conference will have Hawaii, SJSU, Fresno, Nevada, UNLV, UC Davis and will probably add a few west coast/mountain teams somehow. Utah State can join if they decide to do so. 

[Aztec1984]

4 hours ago, Dirtball said:

No way.

It is also CSU and Air Force's perception as well. Boise goes to B12, AAC will scoop up more MWC teams and create a west. If Memphis leaves, the AAC has tons of options they can use to fill in.

 

Personally, if the B12 goes west when OY and OU leave they will take at least 3 teams west of the Rockies

[WAC_FAN]

3 minutes ago, Runandshoot said:

The way I see it, if AFA and CSU do leave. Boise and SDSU are probably gone soon. The most logical thing would to destroy the conference, Thompson let it die. 
 

 

Boise and SDSU don't give a shit about CSU and AFA, we're allies of convenience.

[nvspuds]

It is likely runandshoot is a former frog sock.  

[utgrizfan]

26 minutes ago, Aztec1984 said:

Well, that would be huge. That may happen with a B12 invite, I don't see it with an AAC invite unless they add us with the ability to leave without a penalty. Still, even if AFA and CSU leave I think the MWC is better, especially if we don't add anyone other than Gonzaga.

I don't see the MWC staying at 10 items if it happens, 12 seems to be the magic number Conferences want to stay at, especially if SDSU and Boise might be gone in a few years it gives the MWC some recovery/wiggle room. I'd like to see Texas State and UTSA added as replacements as I doubt we'd get the call.

They are only an hour apart from each other so good travel partners and would give the MWC the Texas footprint many want. Also have more upside then CSU and AF, San Antonio is rated as the 31st Media Market according to DMA as well. 

[Aztec1984]

7 minutes ago, Runandshoot said:

The way I see it, if AFA and CSU do leave. Boise and SDSU are probably gone soon. The most logical thing would to destroy the conference, Thompson let it die. 
 

West coast schools should form their own conference, or join the Big West. 
 

Football Conference will have Hawaii, SJSU, Fresno, Nevada, UNLV, UC Davis and will probably add a few west coast/mountain teams somehow. Utah State can join if they decide to do so. 

To be honest, neither CSU or SDSU leave unless we get concessions from the AAC (such as no exit fee for any future moves). To be honest, I think AFA leaving to be  unlikely and CSU leaving to be incredibly unlikely.

[Aztec1984]

4 minutes ago, utgrizfan said:

I don't see the MWC staying at 10 items if it happens, 12 seems to be the magic number Conferences want to stay at, especially if SDSU and Boise might be gone in a few years it gives the MWC some recovery/wiggle room. I'd like to see Texas State and UTSA added as replacements as I doubt we'd get the call.

They are only an hour apart from each other so good travel partners and would give the MWC the Texas footprint many want. Also have more upside then CSU and AF, San Antonio is rated as the 31st Media Market according to DMA. 

From my school's perspective, we wouldn't want to add any school except Gonzaga. If y'all want to backfill should AFA and CSU leave then fine. I don't see my school approving that and taking any financial hit in the process.

[Aztec1984]

1 hour ago, NewGuy12 said:

the way things are going wouldn't be surprised if the AAC takes more teams from the MWC and then remaining teams joins the Pac 12. Thus ending the MWC conference. Heck Gonzaga might join the B12 or even the AAC 

Wow, nice post. A completely ignorant one but at least you made a statement.

[Aztec1984]

17 minutes ago, utgrizfan said:

I don't see the MWC staying at 10 items if it happens, 12 seems to be the magic number Conferences want to stay at, especially if SDSU and Boise might be gone in a few years it gives the MWC some recovery/wiggle room. I'd like to see Texas State and UTSA added as replacements as I doubt we'd get the call.

They are only an hour apart from each other so good travel partners and would give the MWC the Texas footprint many want. Also have more upside then CSU and AF, San Antonio is rated as the 31st Media Market according to DMA as well. 

Does it bring more money to my school in adding these teams? That is what it is all about.

[utgrizfan]

23 minutes ago, Aztec1984 said:

From my school's perspective, we wouldn't want to add any school except Gonzaga. If y'all want to backfill should AFA and CSU leave then fine. I don't see my school approving that and taking any financial hit in the process.

In the case of Texas State and UTSA im pretty sure it would be an upgrade as far as Conference and $$ for them. Also it's only a 2.5 hour flight between yall and San Antonio so not to bad in regards to distance.

And in regards to adding money it potentially could, UTSA/Texas State could open the door for more $$ in a TV deal as you'll have more eyeballs on games being in Texas and potentially the Alamo Bowl buy in.

[GoCoAztec]

Hard to keep up with 250+ posts, but can we use AFA and CSU’s exit fees to pay Memphis and SMU’s exit fees?  

[Aztec1984]

33 minutes ago, GoCoAztec said:

Hard to keep up with 250+ posts, but can we use AFA and CSU’s exit fees to pay Memphis and SMU’s exit fees?  

God, not sure I would do this but I like the way you think. Thumbs up!