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6 hours ago, Someone Else said:

So haven't checked in on this thread in several hours... has anything official been announced or are we still in the speculation faze?  

 

I know someone who knows someone who knows someone who is really in the know and they said... (i'll tell you shortly)

Nope nothing official just more speculation

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1 hour ago, Spaztecs said:

I ran across this article today. It is part UCF fan blog conspiracy theory and half conjecture. But, it would not surprise me one bit.

https://www.anchorofgold.com/2021/9/9/22664634/the-alliance-is-really-about-killing-off-the-big-12

 

 

 

The post feeding frenzy Big 12.

Assuming WVU to ACC, Kansas to B1G or Big East, Houston and TCU to Pac.

East:  Iowa st, UCF,  Memphis, Cinci, K state, okie st, maybe Kansas stays

West: Baylor, TT, BYU, Boise, SUDS ? and ???

Aztecs will need a travel partner. Fresno ?  Nevada ?

 One heck of a B-ball Conference if Kansas stays.

 

 

At this moment in time, I think Big 12 is still on shaky ground. If let's say an unhappy Kansas ends up leaving the conference that very well could start a domino affect where maybe Big 12 is destroyed? If ACC came at West Virginia with an offer to join I think W. Virginia would take it because that is the conference they want to get into. But it is speculation but Kansas is not happy at the moment so we will see. 

 

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I watch some of John Kurtz podcasts on YouTube and sometimes they are interesting watches. 

However it wouldn't make much sense to bring UConn back into the mix. If that part is true, I mean that could change the whole look of the deal.

Also when this all started AAC said the were looking at SDSU, Boise, CSU and AFA as football only membership. We all know that could have changed since then.

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2 minutes ago, wolfpack1 said:

At this moment in time, I think Big 12 is still on shaky ground. If let's say an unhappy Kansas ends up leaving the conference that very well could start a domino affect where maybe Big 12 is destroyed? If ACC came at West Virginia with an offer to join I think W. Virginia would take it because that is the conference they want to get into. But it is speculation but Kansas is not happy at the moment so we will see. 

 

Of course any B12 team, would jump into any one of the other P4 conferences--but many of them don't have other options.  Schools like Kansas State and Iowa State would be G5 schools if they didn't have P5 money.

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1 minute ago, WAC_FAN said:

Of course any B12 team, would jump into any one of the other P4 conferences--but many of them don't have other options.  Schools like Kansas State and Iowa State would be G5 schools if they didn't have P5 money.

Kansas St I think would be the hurt the most

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50 minutes ago, Spaztecs said:

Bill Yeoman and the Houston Veer offense caught a lot of eyeballs in the 70's.

 

Yup---after the veer----there was the whole Run-and-Shoot era with Ware....and then the Briles offense era with Kevin Kolb having some very good years...and then the Air Raid period with Case.....then Herman did his thing.  We've had our moments.  

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6 hours ago, Spaztecs said:

I ran across this article today. It is part UCF fan blog conspiracy theory and half conjecture. But, it would not surprise me one bit.

https://www.anchorofgold.com/2021/9/9/22664634/the-alliance-is-really-about-killing-off-the-big-12

 

 

 

The post feeding frenzy Big 12.

Assuming WVU to ACC, Kansas to B1G or Big East, Houston and TCU to Pac.

East:  Iowa st, UCF,  Memphis, Cinci, K state, okie st, maybe Kansas stays

West: Baylor, TT, BYU, Boise, SUDS ? and ???

Aztecs will need a travel partner. Fresno ?  Nevada ?

 One heck of a B-ball Conference if Kansas stays.

 

 

Good article. Ha ha it mentioned Nebraska playing a one game schedule. The B8 was extremely weak in those days and Nebraska played 8 home games with 3 non conference cupcakes. The SEC ground it self into the ground. 
 

the SEC is the small guy ally in all of this then. Opposing the playoff expansion is BS from the other 3 power conferences. It’s ridiculous that the G5’s have absolutely no power to make any changes.

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5 hours ago, utgrizfan said:

Been seeing things about this too, could very well derail the whole entire MWC expansion idea for the AAC last thing a University wants to do is piss off their donors. With how the military loves tradition it makes sense why there's so much pushback, traditional rivals vs playing games in Carolina and  Florida. If AF doesn't leave then CSU won't either.

Could only be some donors.  I’m sure there are some for the move.  If the donors only give 50k, the school will get more than that just from what they’ll get from the AAC.  In fact CSU and AF will be getting more than what Boise makes in the MW and then some.

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5 hours ago, wolfpack1 said:

At this moment in time, I think Big 12 is still on shaky ground. If let's say an unhappy Kansas ends up leaving the conference that very well could start a domino affect where maybe Big 12 is destroyed? If ACC came at West Virginia with an offer to join I think W. Virginia would take it because that is the conference they want to get into. But it is speculation but Kansas is not happy at the moment so we will see. 

 

Hogwash.  We’ve heard this all before.  They would just have their pick of the G5 litter.  Why folks continue with this refrain despite what history has shown us is beyond me.

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10 minutes ago, NorCalCoug said:

Hogwash.  We’ve heard this all before.  They would just have their pick of the G5 litter.  Why folks continue with this refrain despite what history has shown us is beyond me.

If enough of the higher end B12 schools bounce, it will turn into the #1 G5 conference and the tv revenue distribution will be reduced accordingly. BSU or Memphis are not going to fill the gap for losing OSU, Kansas, West Virginia, etc. If the dominoes really start falling and they have to add even more schools once you get past SDSU there are almost no other schools to add that have significant media value. 

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2 hours ago, Sputnik46 said:

So has Thompson said anything about the potential CSU and AFA move and the MWC reaction if it happens?

With him, the more he keeps his mouth shut in public, the better.  

At most from any commissioner you would just get the typical PR.  We are aware of discussions but we don't have any comments at this time type of answer. 

Anyone who is a professional isn't going to comment on rumors yet.  

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7 hours ago, Spaztecs said:

 

It's not your program or your fan base, or fear of your success.

It's your Location

Location

Location

If, as the prognosticators, sages, seers, and informed insiders  on this Board are accurate, Boise/SDSU/AFA/CSU are history. The MW will be reeling with only 8 teams. TV revenue will bottom out to current Sun Belt levels. NMSU and UTEP are obvious adds. That brings the depleted MW to ten. That's the minimum necessary to play a CCG.

NDSU might be considered with another western football school that makes the grade. Another FCS squad most likely. To bring it up to twelve.

I and many others just don't see it happening. Your closest Conference rival is 850 miles away in Laramie. Over 1,000 miles to Logan. Do you really want to travel In a gutted, small revenue Conference ?

How about a roadie to Hawaii every four years. Or,  Las Cruces, 1,800 miles away. (You will be in their Division).

We wish you well in finding a Conference.  As well as in your FB future.

Most just don't see you in any configuration of this Conference in it's current status or future depleted status. You would be bored with the MAC in 5-10 years as you will probably dominate there as well. Same with the WAC 3.0.

Unless you're willing to pay travel subs to join C-USA, you're stuck with being the Big fish in a small and far away pond.

 

 

Addressing the MW point of view:
You're seeing how it is now. Not what it could likely be.

If Air Force, CSU, SDSU, and Boise are gone, Wyoming, Utah State, and NMSU are all basically on their own island. 

The proposed Texas backfill has practically the same distance away (except UTEP) as NDSU. 

There's not going to be that big of a difference to Fresno if they'd be going to UTSA or NDSU in flight miles.

The only difference would be that NDSU would have a packed house and fans that watch the game. 

 

Addressing the NDSU point of view:

They fly quite a lot already. They just flew to Maryland. They'll fly to Ohio and Illinois this year too. They already fly in an even lower revenue conference with fans that care a lot less than a gutted MWC.

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26 minutes ago, Wyobraska said:

With him, the more he keeps his mouth shut in public, the better.  

At most from any commissioner you would just get the typical PR.  We are aware of discussions but we don't have any comments at this time type of answer. 

Anyone who is a professional isn't going to comment on rumors yet.  

I'm sure this has been mentioned in this behemoth of a thread but I'm too lazy to look for it. Do we know if our leadership has reached out to SMU or Tulsa or anyone from the AAC?

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1 minute ago, tenbobnote said:

Addressing the MW point of view:
You're seeing how it is now. Not what it could likely be.

If Air Force, CSU, SDSU, and Boise are gone, Wyoming, Utah State, and NMSU are all basically on their own island. 

The proposed Texas backfill has practically the same distance away (except UTEP) as NDSU. 

There's not going to be that big of a difference to Fresno if they'd be going to UTSA or NDSU in flight miles.

The only difference would be that NDSU would have a packed house and fans that watch the game. 

 

Addressing the NDSU point of view:

They fly quite a lot already. They just flew to Maryland. They'll fly to Ohio and Illinois this year too. They already fly in an even lower revenue conference with fans that care a lot less than a gutted MWC.

This is the deal those 4 you mentioned are gone sooner than later. So the MWC needs to make plans now on what they want the conference to be.

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44 minutes ago, tenbobnote said:

Addressing the MW point of view:
You're seeing how it is now. Not what it could likely be.

If Air Force, CSU, SDSU, and Boise are gone, Wyoming, Utah State, and NMSU are all basically on their own island. 

The proposed Texas backfill has practically the same distance away (except UTEP) as NDSU. 

There's not going to be that big of a difference to Fresno if they'd be going to UTSA or NDSU in flight miles.

The only difference would be that NDSU would have a packed house and fans that watch the game. 

 

Addressing the NDSU point of view:

They fly quite a lot already. They just flew to Maryland. They'll fly to Ohio and Illinois this year too. They already fly in an even lower revenue conference with fans that care a lot less than a gutted MWC.

It isn't where you want to fly to, it's where members of the MWC want to fly to.  And most probably don't feel like flying to basically Minnesota.  I would be fine with Missoula.  Not Fargo.  NDSU is out of our footprint.  NDSU has a good thing going, just stick to that.

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1 hour ago, The Brent Vigen Diet said:

If enough of the higher end B12 schools bounce, it will turn into the #1 G5 conference and the tv revenue distribution will be reduced accordingly. BSU or Memphis are not going to fill the gap for losing OSU, Kansas, West Virginia, etc. If the dominoes really start falling and they have to add even more schools once you get past SDSU there ares almost no other schools to add that have significant media value. 

They’d have to lose 5+ schools at this point….  Highly improbable.  Good luck!

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