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3 hours ago, uteAggie said:

What is ACTUALLY being discussed at the School President level is this:

AFA is gone

CSU is likely gone

AAC will pay their exit fees from the MWC using the pool of money they are getting from BIG12 3

Rice and one more C-USA Texas school gets the invite to join the MWC, maybe two more (less likely).  

That's what is happening in the real world, all this other speculation is fun for some, but not happening.  Now back to work!   

Rice ran away as fast as they could muster to C-USA because it was a better fit for them, you don't see schools going back to a conference they left because they didn't want to be there anymore and they add absolutely nothing to the conference sports wise so the conference will be weaker with then and that isn't the point of expansion, you want to get stronger not weaker, but then look at AAC they are going to be weaker so maybe that argument is out the window.

However again, nothing has been announced or leaked or anything which by now probably would have happened. Until something is announced I don't see it happening because doesn't make sense just for football.

 

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However was watching something on You Tube today where they had a Pac-12 writing who says that presidents are looking at expansion but it won't happen this year unless something blows up and they need to move quickly. He went onto say even though there is a gentlemen's agreement between Big 12 and Pac-12 about not raiding each other in expansion both conferences that both conferences would likely end up going after each other's schools.

The video went onto say that Pac-12 have two main targets which everyone already knows but the president's are arguing with the other two potential targets. The schools on top of their list are TCU and Houston with the other two schools being Texas Tech and for some reason Baylor. However they went onto say that unless something dramatic happens (like if Texas and Oklahoma leave before 2025) he doesn't expect a Power 5 conference to make any moves for the next 12-18 months.

But again until something happens its all speculation that is being fed by the media

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14 minutes ago, wolfpack1 said:

However was watching something on You Tube today where they had a Pac-12 writing who says that presidents are looking at expansion but it won't happen this year unless something blows up and they need to move quickly. He went onto say even though there is a gentlemen's agreement between Big 12 and Pac-12 about not raiding each other in expansion both conferences that both conferences would likely end up going after each other's schools.

The video went onto say that Pac-12 have two main targets which everyone already knows but the president's are arguing with the other two potential targets. The schools on top of their list are TCU and Houston with the other two schools being Texas Tech and for some reason Baylor. However they went onto say that unless something dramatic happens (like if Texas and Oklahoma leave before 2025) he doesn't expect a Power 5 conference to make any moves for the next 12-18 months.

But again until something happens its all speculation that is being fed by the media

Any report that the Pac-12 is interested in adding Baylor should be taken with a HUGE grain of salt.

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2 minutes ago, HawaiiMongoose said:

Any report that the Pac-12 is interested in adding Baylor should be taken with a HUGE grain of salt.

Oh I know it does and it sounded like the guy didn't believe that either when he heard it, I wonder if got mixed up with something else but did say two or three times that TCU and Houston were the top two targets

 

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To be honest, I don't see a reason to replace either school if CSU and AFU leave. They want to pay some $12.5m leave then so be it. Not sure what the AAC can give them over the MWC given they just lost their 3 best programs. What do we lose, 1 decent football program and one decent basketball program?

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1 hour ago, Aztec1984 said:

To be honest, I don't see a reason to replace either school if CSU and AFU leave. They want to pay some $12.5m leave then so be it. Not sure what the AAC can give them over the MWC given they just lost their 3 best programs. What do we lose, 1 decent football program and one decent basketball program?

Probably your media deal, but you’ll get a new one.  

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5 hours ago, wolfpack1 said:

Rice ran away as fast as they could muster to C-USA because it was a better fit for them, you don't see schools going back to a conference they left because they didn't want to be there anymore and they add absolutely nothing to the conference sports wise so the conference will be weaker with then and that isn't the point of expansion, you want to get stronger not weaker, but then look at AAC they are going to be weaker so maybe that argument is out the window.

However again, nothing has been announced or leaked or anything which by now probably would have happened. Until something is announced I don't see it happening because doesn't make sense just for football.

 

That is the longest sentence I’ve seen in a while.

 There’s been leaks but the process is early so they haven’t been ‘x is going to y’, more like ‘oh crap the MWC is getting affected by realignment after all’.  One more week and things will clear up.  The process is slower than the big 12’s for three reasons: they did their research in 2016, there’s more money involved with the Big12, and the aac has a much larger pool of candidates to pick from than the Big12.

I suspect the aac is currently discussing options with media partners and meeting with current member leadership.  

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6 hours ago, Aslowhiteguy said:

I agree that NDSU is worthy of a promotion.  There just isn't anywhere for them to go.  The MAC appears to be set at 12 with no reason to add.  The MW wouldn't be interested even if they were adding.  The AAC isn't going to be calling either. 

 

NDSU should be mad at the Montana school's lack of vision. They could have moved up to a FBS WAC 10+ years ago. As other schools joined the MWC and CUSA, the Idaho and Montana schools would have been a powerful voting block. This block could have been receptive to the Dakota schools. 

As it stands now, the Dakota schools are just too far away from any current FBS conference to logically add. 

Unless there is a very desperate conference, no one will add them. The only hope for NDSU is to convince Idaho, the Montana twins and the Dakota schools to form the core for a new FBS conference. The chances are very slim, but it's their only path currently.

Good luck with your aspirations, but they are not with the Mountain West Conference.

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3 hours ago, CKS007 said:

NDSU should be mad at the Montana school's lack of vision. They could have moved up to a FBS WAC 10+ years ago. As other schools joined the MWC and CUSA, the Idaho and Montana schools would have been a powerful voting block. This block could have been receptive to the Dakota schools. 

As it stands now, the Dakota schools are just too far away from any current FBS conference to logically add. 

Unless there is a very desperate conference, no one will add them. The only hope for NDSU is to convince Idaho, the Montana twins and the Dakota schools to form the core for a new FBS conference. The chances are very slim, but it's their only path currently.

Good luck with your aspirations, but they are not with the Mountain West Conference.

Part of me wished we had moved up then but seeing how the WAC imploded I'm kind if happy we didn't as chances are we'd be just like NMSU, without a home. Since then both schools have made investments into their facilities (MSU in particular) and athletics as a whole and both teams are now consistently in the upper echelons of the FCS.

The way I see it the only way we get an MWC invite is if the MWC is raided so badly they have to or they want to go to 16 teams which are both unlikely scenarios. 

Also creating a new Conference is an even farther reach. Besides the Dakota States and the Montana Schools you'd have very slim pickings in terms of teams to add. If we could get all 4 Dakota Schools and Northern Iowa to join that'd be a solid 7 teams but again issues would be their facilities and lack of other teams to join. 

I've not been shy about wanting both Montanas and Dakota States in the MWC, but I'm not naive enough to think that'd we'd be the option picked over some C-USA Texas schools.

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On 9/25/2021 at 1:32 AM, 1066 said:

I hear that Miami of Ohio and the University of Northern Michigan are also a sure thing.

footprint and value.you already know cuz.

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I would like to officially inform all of you that the rumors of Idaho going to the MWC or AAC are unsubstantiated.  While there have been discussions, Idaho does not see it's interests best served by changing conferences at this time.  Thank you.

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8 minutes ago, VandalPride97 said:

I would like to officially inform all of you that the rumors of Idaho going to the MWC or AAC are unsubstantiated.  While there have been discussions, Idaho does not see it's interests best served by changing conferences at this time.  Thank you.

Must be a great disappointment for Boise State.

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10 hours ago, Jalapeno said:

Something to keep an eye on:

 

Are CU fans keeping an eye on this because there is a lot of pressure to drop football and keep kids in a safe space?  

Why would anyone keep an eye on this?

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5 minutes ago, Wyobraska said:

Are CU fans keeping an eye on this because there is a lot of pressure to drop football and keep kids in a safe space?  

Why would anyone keep an eye on this?

Because McNeese would be a good add for the WAC's move to build a 1AA football conference.  WAC has already snagged 4 Southland members.

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4 minutes ago, RSF said:

Because McNeese would be a good add for the WAC's move to build a 1AA football conference.  WAC has already snagged 4 Southland members.

Im still not seeing why people should pay attention in regards to MW realignment.  

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1 minute ago, Wyobraska said:

Im still not seeing why people should pay attention in regards to MW realignment.  

 

MW wants into Texas.  The new WAC has several members ripe for the picking.

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12 minutes ago, Wyobraska said:

Im still not seeing why people should pay attention in regards to MW realignment.  

It's a 'Conference Realignment' thread.  

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