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Ha. If Georgia and Alabama were in the same division and actually played each other every year in the regular season, like Ohio State and Michigan, they'd have half as many championships because someone would have been eliminated from the championship game and not gotten the second bid to the playoffs.

The P4 need those 3-4 annual home games against FCS/G5 teams to inflate their records and ensure bowl eligibility. If they only played P4 opponents almost everyone would go 9-3 and that's not sexy enough for  the networks that run college football. 

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On 10/9/2024 at 3:51 PM, lakesbison said:

el paso people could care less about utep

fargo metro is 250,000 and EVERYONE is a NDSU fan and part of Minnesota even.

but yea.  enjoy utep 

UTEP averages like 30k, they actually do control their market. (As much as any MWC team does anyway)

Yes NDSU would be better on the field, but I don't make the decisions.  I

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On 10/9/2024 at 3:51 PM, lakesbison said:

el paso people could care less about utep

fargo metro is 250,000 and EVERYONE is a NDSU fan and part of Minnesota even.

but yea.  enjoy utep 

If that was the case, 41k people wouldn’t have attended the Sun Bowl (cap 47k seats……it went from 52k to 47k seats a few years ago after a remodel) last month for the home opener against FCS Southern Utah. 31k showed up last year for the home opener against FCS Incarnate Word and it was a sellout in 2022 against North Texas. 
 

You’re confusing a terrible football product on the field with no fan support. I’m not going to dispute the football claim. You can even call UTEP basketball mediocre. I won’t dispute that either. But there’s three things you cannot say about UTEP: lack of fan support, bad facilities and nobody in El Paso cares. It is the one rare G5 that can average 48k and 10k in FB and BB. 
 

The fans are hungry for a winner and if there’s sellouts for an 8-4 team…..just imagine if UTEP has a season like NMSU’s last season. Ask Nevada fans how intense the basketball rivalry was in the WAC. The Don Haskins Center had sellouts and although the basketball program has been between average and mediocre, attendance is still better than most G5’s and even some P4’s. That’s the one positive I find in the move to the MWC, it might revive the basketball program. 
 

Last but not least, El Paso might not be growing fast as other areas of Texas but El Paso County has 750-800K and the metro area has about 1.1 million if you include Las Cruces and some parts of Southern New Mexico. If you include Juarez….it gets close to 3 million people. UTEP does deliver its entire tv market and the local media and businesses don’t ignore the Miners. It’s one of the advantages of being the only sport in town. The closest pro sports town is Phoenix (7-8 hours away) and the closest P4 schools are Arizona and Texas Tech 350 miles in each direction. The closest P2 schools are in Austin and L.A.

Now if NDSU really really wants to play FBS football, call Judy in Dallas. C-USA would be a good home for you guys. I’m sure Liberty vs NDSU would command good ratings and C-USA is on ESPN and it’s on the Eastern and Central time zones. 

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On 10/9/2024 at 10:39 PM, UTEPDallas said:

If that was the case, 41k people wouldn’t have attended the Sun Bowl (cap 47k seats……it went from 52k to 47k seats a few years ago after a remodel) last month for the home opener against FCS Southern Utah. 31k showed up last year for the home opener against FCS Incarnate Word and it was a sellout in 2022 against North Texas. 
 

You’re confusing a terrible football product on the field with no fan support. I’m not going to dispute the football claim. You can even call UTEP basketball mediocre. I won’t dispute that either. But there’s three things you cannot say about UTEP: lack of fan support, bad facilities and nobody in El Paso cares. It is the one rare G5 that can average 48k and 10k in FB and BB. 
 

The fans are hungry for a winner and if there’s sellouts for an 8-4 team…..just imagine if UTEP has a season like NMSU’s last season. Ask Nevada fans how intense the basketball rivalry was in the WAC. The Don Haskins Center had sellouts and although the basketball program has been between average and mediocre, attendance is still better than most G5’s and even some P4’s. That’s the one positive I find in the move to the MWC, it might revive the basketball program. 
 

Last but not least, El Paso might not be growing fast as other areas of Texas but El Paso County has 750-800K and the metro area has about 1.1 million if you include Las Cruces and some parts of Southern New Mexico. If you include Juarez….it gets close to 3 million people. UTEP does deliver its entire tv market and the local media and businesses don’t ignore the Miners. It’s one of the advantages of being the only sport in town. The closest pro sports town is Phoenix (7-8 hours away) and the closest P4 schools are Arizona and Texas Tech 350 miles in each direction. The closest P2 schools are in Austin and L.A.

Now if NDSU really really wants to play FBS football, call Judy in Dallas. C-USA would be a good home for you guys. I’m sure Liberty vs NDSU would command good ratings and C-USA is on ESPN and it’s on the Eastern and Central time zones. 

They aren't serious about moving up.  And you are right, CUSA would be a perfect fit to get started at the FBS level before the next round of musical chairs which will probably be in 2-4 years.

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On 10/8/2024 at 2:00 PM, lakesbison said:

NDSU plays SDSU Oct 19 on ESPN 2 7pm 

ESPN Gameday will probably be there too more than likely.

But Yea, the Mountain West gonna just take pud UTEP or something else. 

Dont you want that AutoBid G5 CFP spot???????????????  NDSU helps you on the actual field.

This shtick doesn't work like it used to now that NDSU is South Dakota State's bitch at the FCS level.

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On 10/10/2024 at 11:47 AM, Poster17 said:

UTEP was the right choice for the MWC.  Next is to get Hawaii as a full time member then stop.  8 team conference just like the OG MWC made up of teams all in the same footprint.  It really doesn't need anymore than that.

poor NMSU...they fit in the MWC perfectly.

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On 10/10/2024 at 10:47 AM, Poster17 said:

UTEP was the right choice for the MWC.  Next is to get Hawaii as a full time member then stop.  8 team conference just like the OG MWC made up of teams all in the same footprint.  It really doesn't need anymore than that.

I'd also add GCU as basketball only (isn't 11 teams a great # for basketball?) and Sac State to give the Conference some cushion against future realignment shenanigans and add 2 more Markets (Sacramento and Phoenix):

UNLV..............Wyoming

Nevada..........Air Force

SJSU..............New Mexico

Sac State.......UTEP

Hawaii............NMSU

*GCU

* = Oly only

To me that seems like a solid and regional Conference, 9 Conference games Round Robin.

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On 10/11/2024 at 12:14 PM, Laconian said:

Eight teams is enough. The only reason the MWC should go to 9 is if media partners say it will improve the overall package.

You need nine for an even number of conference games at home and road, and not having to deal with trying to schedule an extra football game and two basketball games.

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On 10/5/2024 at 9:13 AM, EvilPoke said:

https://x.com/ramblinroundup/status/1842049463654752363?s=46&t=qwoy3jQLjUVMaVlrvz-rVg

This guy is saying $6M media deal per team with Hawaii on board.

It's slightly more total money, but with four fewer mouths to feed.

The MW is winning on the cash side.

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On 10/14/2024 at 11:11 AM, lakesbison said:

NDSU vs SDSU Sat Night 7pm ESPN 2     

SOLD OUT 19,000 for 1 month now, Easy 40,000 people tailgating

Mountain West's Gloria has been invited

ITS TIME,    http://www.facebook.com/bisonation1 

Biso Nation? Since you're so bad at English, you're pending invite was cancelled.

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On 10/15/2024 at 12:00 AM, HawaiiMongoose said:

Confirmed by the Hawaii AD.  And the cherry on top: no more travel subsidies!

https://www.staradvertiser.com/2024/10/14/sports/sports-breaking/most-of-uhs-non-football-sports-will-join-mountain-west/

Wow, that is a win for Hawaii.  I wasn't expecting that.  I guess if there was going to be future invites after Hawaii joined full time, that question would have come up for the new schools. 

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Gloria is getting full court blitzed by NDSU and their Media and Socials and NDSU fanbase this week with this ESPN 2 game

if the Mountain West doesn't invite NDSU all sports ALONE and travel partner them with AIr Force (Denver Airport 1 hour) and Fargo to DIA daily)

then you're obviously scared then...

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On 10/16/2024 at 12:54 PM, lakesbison said:

Gloria is getting full court blitzed by NDSU and their Media and Socials and NDSU fanbase this week with this ESPN 2 game

if the Mountain West doesn't invite NDSU all sports ALONE and travel partner them with AIr Force (Denver Airport 1 hour) and Fargo to DIA daily)

then you're obviously scared then...

Jesus, please stop.  This is a message board, not a conference office.  And travel partners are a thing of the past, thinking like 80's so stop that shit too.  Bye.

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