Conference Realignment thread

[alum93]

On 10/1/2024 at 10:01 AM, CAM THE RAM said:

 

UNLV made a big bet that the Big 12 will offer an invite within the next 5 years. And I think that could happen. But if not, maybe UNLV joins the Pac 12. It would have been awesome to see UNLV in this new PAC -12 Basketball league. 

What are the penalties for getting out of the agreement that remaining MWC schools signed?  It looks like both the PAC and MWC survived and both will end up being 8-10 team leagues.  CUSA might lose a couple schools, but will probably backfill with FCS programs and get to 10 as well.  And the P4 pulled even further away.  Las Vegas would be an awesome market to grab for the B12 down the line.  For now, a couple more pieces to be moved around and then the musical chairs stop for a couple years.

[Rebels2k3]

 

[fanhood]

On 10/1/2024 at 6:18 PM, Rebels2k3 said:

Gonzaga joining the PAC-12

Now I have a sudden sense of FOMO

There is no way that Memphis doesn't join this party......

[CAM THE RAM]

On 10/1/2024 at 10:18 AM, alum93 said:

What are the penalties for getting out of the agreement that remaining MWC schools signed?  It looks like both the PAC and MWC survived and both will end up being 8-10 team leagues.  CUSA might lose a couple schools, but will probably backfill with FCS programs and get to 10 as well.  And the P4 pulled even further away.  Las Vegas would be an awesome market to grab for the B12 down the line.  For now, a couple more pieces to be moved around and then the musical chairs stop for a couple years.

I meant UNLV joins the Pac-12 after 2032.  I'm sure the penalties would be stiff to for UNLV to leave the MWC. I think the agreement expires after 2032. 

[CAM THE RAM]

On 10/1/2024 at 10:30 AM, fanhood said:

There is no way that Memphis doesn't join this party......

I agree. Their alumni are going to storm the campus demanding they join the PAC 12. Zaga and Memphis twice a year? Wow! 

 

[Brew_Poke]

On 9/27/2024 at 10:21 AM, Poster17 said:

It turned out this way because of one thing and one thing only.............ego.  Schools let ego and perception get in the way of what the right thing to do was.  Now here we are.  Instead of creating the best non-P4 conference in the nation, now the MWC and PAC STATE have let the AAC take control of that.   All because some schools want to wear a shield that says PAC, but is nothing like the OG PAC.   This is like going to see Dead & Company and claiming you saw the Grateful Dead.   Or saying you saw Alice in Chains without Layne Stanley.  It just ain't the same.  Nowhere near the same.   Ego is why things turned out the way they did.

Lynyrd Skynyrd after the plane crash.

[Laconian]

UTEP is in.

https://twitter.com/MountainWest/status/1841146281671921797

[Iam4wyo]

On 9/30/2024 at 9:44 PM, UTEPDallas said:

Long time no see. It’s been years since I’ve been on this board. 
 

With that being said, I might be in the minority of Miner fans but I don’t want UTEP to go back to the MWAC. Big mistake going to a conference with a bunch of backstabbers who will leave us behind at the first opportunity. This conference is the WAC after the MWC split of 1998-99: a dead man walking that has its days as a FBS conference numbered. The new tv deal will take a massive hit, you’re not on ESPN, the best football and basketball brands are gone, you offer little to no exposure in the Central and Eastern time zones and each legacy school will look for a way out once the exit fees Gloria is bribing you with dry out. We’ll be left behind with freaking San Jose State and Wyoming. Argh. 
 

And that hideous Dr Who like conference logo needs to go. Bring back the original one or be more creative with a new one. 

I’m so angry and disappointed right now with the big mistake UTEP is about to make. 

Well then.  How about you get your athletic department shit together and compete, instead of being the dregs of the conference (which you are now in CUSA)??

[Iam4wyo]

On 10/1/2024 at 10:13 AM, WAC_FAN said:

Tarleton has money, facilities and a Top 5 FCS attendance ready to go.  If Texas St turns us down, then it would be a good fit.

I can think of 20 schools that would a better fit with the MWC...

[lakesbison]

NDSU??  HELLO!!

 

NDSU can GO ALONE!!   are the MWC that AFRAID OF NDSU FOOTBALL and their 180-20 RECORD??

[agswin]

I believe a few things are driving the PAC group.

1. Finances - Each of the PAC invitee have demonstrated superior financing and finances over the past several years due to Bowl money, NCAA Tournament $$ credits, and private fundraising efforts.

2. Population Base and Growth - Each of the Pac Invitees has demonstrated potential for a superior fanbase and superior competitive potential based on performance over the past decade within the the conference, outside of the conference and on the nation stage (Bowl Games and NCAA tournament games, and market,  The PAC invitees are also in areas of significant forecasted population growth.

3. Institutional Commitment and Investment.  In my view, it appears that each of the invitees has invested or are committed to invest substantially in Facilities, Sports Programs, Strength & Nutrition, etc.  This area of Institutional Investment and Commitment might be the biggest differentiator of all.

[Iam4wyo]

On 10/1/2024 at 11:29 AM, agswin said:

I believe a few things are driving the PAC group.

1. Finances - Each of the PAC invitee have demonstrated superior financing and finances over the past several years due to Bowl money, NCAA Tournament $$ credits, and private fundraising efforts.

2. Population Base and Growth - Each of the Pac Invitees has demonstrated potential for a superior fanbase and superior competitive potential based on performance over the past decade within the the conference, outside of the conference and on the nation stage (Bowl Games and NCAA tournament games, and market,  The PAC invitees are also in areas of significant forecasted population growth.

3. Institutional Commitment and Investment.  In my view, it appears that each of the invitees has invested or are committed to invest substantially in Facilities, Sports Programs, Strength & Nutrition, etc.  This area of Institutional Investment and Commitment might be the biggest differentiator of all.

4.  Egos and attitudes.  

[PlayersinVegas]

On 10/1/2024 at 9:06 AM, MWC TX said:

I think Texas St maybe on the fence waiting on the PAC.  
News is we are looking at Tarleton St.

https://tarletonsports.com/facilities

I'll take them TCU replacement aesthetics wise 

[Brew_Poke]

On 9/28/2024 at 8:54 PM, SpartanDude said:

Texas is so huge that some of the assumptions of "travel partners" or proximity that people make doesn't hold up.  For example it's closer to San Diego from El Paso Texas, than it is to Houston from El Paso Texas.  Not by much, but still the point stands.  Saying that UTSA would be a UTEP travel partner is like saying that USU would be a UNLV travel partner - it's about the same distance apart in both cases. 

Travel partners hasn't been a thing in decades, and only was in the PAC-10, for basketball trips. They have it up twenty years ago. I become unreasonably enraged when I see it referenced as something to even waste time talking about, so stop it, everyone. Talking about travel partners is stupid.

[Brew_Poke]

On 9/30/2024 at 5:42 PM, utgrizfan said:

I'll never agree to the MAC schools being better Football options then the Dakota States, both from a travel perspective, competitiveness, fan support etc. If they want CTZ Football only members the Dakota States are better options.

Then it's a good thing you're not in charge.

[BoiseStateOfMind]

On 9/30/2024 at 8:49 PM, Laconian said:

think that Snow Belt Conference with Idaho, the Montanas, Wyoming, Colorado State, and the Dakotas would be amazingly fun to watch. But the money they generated from media contracts would be abysmal so we'll never get to see it.

Media is only part of it. The fee to move from FCS to FBS has increased exponentially on top of the exit and entrance fees that schools would be paying, while the opportunities for new FBS schools to climb the latter and accomplish anything significant have dwindled to almost nothing. They'd then have to spend even more on facilities, recruiting, coaches, etc. just to hopefully make the Frisco Bowl once in a while. It's a bad deal at this point before TV money even enters the picture.

[lakesbison]

NDSU would raise $50 million in 3 phone calls.   we aren't POOR.    the MWC is just afraid to ADD NDSU because they would be TOP DOGS Day 1 in every single MWC sport... period.

[dudleyDgroot]

On 10/1/2024 at 12:01 PM, lakesbison said:

NDSU would raise $50 million in 3 phone calls.   we aren't POOR.    the MWC is just afraid to ADD NDSU because they would be TOP DOGS Day 1 in every single MWC sport... period.

Give it up......If you guys are so great, you should be begging the PAC 7.5.....

[Iam4wyo]

On 10/1/2024 at 1:01 PM, lakesbison said:

NDSU would raise $50 million in 3 phone calls.   we aren't POOR.    the MWC is just afraid to ADD NDSU because they would be TOP DOGS Day 1 in every single MWC sport... period.

Then why shoot for the MWC, or the MWC step sister Pac7?  Go for the SEC, you deserve it!

[alum93]

On 10/1/2024 at 1:01 PM, lakesbison said:

NDSU would raise $50 million in 3 phone calls.   we aren't POOR.    the MWC is just afraid to ADD NDSU because they would be TOP DOGS Day 1 in every single MWC sport... period.

I think you are being silly.  But if it's that easy to raise $50 million, why haven't you bought your way into an FBS conference these last 10 years, and more importantly the last month?  Just tell the PAC and MWC you will forego any contract money because you are swimming in cash.  I would be if you are willing to pay for free someone would take you.  But you haven't been invited, so...