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On 9/24/2024 at 10:58 AM, SteedLaw said:

Damn. That is aggressive.

It is start of "negotiation" process to whittle away at the "poaching penalties"; the exit fees will also be attempted to be negotiated down, but just not via this filing.

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Lawsuit 

Might freeze UNLV in the MW for the time being and slow things down. 

Likely will delay payments.

Might be the last ditch effort to avoid paying fees or merger as this new PAC is a financial disaster (without the AAC members).

After the courts decides is when its payment time (doubt they will want to pay) or talk of merging. 

I’ve seen this before in business and the lawsuit (as them the Plaintiff) is actually showing weakness that the business efforts failed yesterday.

Now they have a relatively low cost option to litigate (relatively speaking compared to the fee totals).  They do not want to pay those fees for this version of the conference.  

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https://sports.yahoo.com/utah-state-gives-pac-12-152327785.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

You really cannot make this stuff up. Supposedly, AFA and UNLV are both highly reconsidering their positions yesterday and are thinking of both joining the PAC together rather than stay with the MWC -- potentially making a move by EOD. 

And...USU is the cause???!!!!

Yeah, you can't make this stuff up. 

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On 9/24/2024 at 12:23 PM, spc_ops said:

flights from boise to conneticut are almost the same as flights to Hawaii. I don't want to see Uconn added but nor do I want to see Hawaii.

I suspect they were being looked at back when Memphis and the rest were. I highly doubt they'd be in play now

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On 9/24/2024 at 12:39 PM, UofMTigers said:

apparantly Memphis was also trying for the Pac-12 football only and the BE for all other sports but the Pac-12 said no.

Pac-12 tried to play hard ball and it cost them Memphis, Tulane, USF, and UTSA.

ya football only would have been lame. You're basketball program has more value. 

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On 9/24/2024 at 12:39 PM, UofMTigers said:

apparantly Memphis was also trying for the Pac-12 football only and the BE for all other sports but the Pac-12 said no.

Pac-12 tried to play hard ball and it cost them Memphis, Tulane, USF, and UTSA.

The PAC should have offered more money in exit fees though, that was a lame attempt.

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On 9/24/2024 at 2:43 PM, spc_ops said:

The PAC should have offered more money in exit fees though, that was a lame attempt.

you also don't bring in funny numbers from the same firm that told you to turn down 30m per team from ESPN.

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USU is now part of the PAC7 and PAC7 is suing the MWC to get out of the poaching fees.

 

I really hope the B12 goes to only 8 conference games so BYU can play these old PAC7 rivals more.

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Why doesn't Hawaii kick-off games at 10 am Hawaii time? given daylight savings it would be ~4 pm Pacific time, primetime East Coast. Maybe no one on the east coast cares but it seems better than playing at 1 a.m. on the east coast. Plus teams traveling over there are still 6 hours + later so they could play at 10 am no problem. Hawaii could schedule more central and east coast teams OOC and get more eyeballs. Locals could tailgate breakfast, have an early game and still have their whole evenings free. just sayin

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On 9/24/2024 at 12:54 PM, spc_ops said:

Why doesn't Hawaii kick-off games at 10 am Hawaii time? given daylight savings it would be ~4 pm Pacific time, primetime East Coast. Maybe no one on the east coast cares but it seems better than playing at 1 a.m. on the east coast. Plus teams traveling over there are still 6 hours + later so they could play at 10 am no problem. Hawaii could schedule more central and east coast teams OOC and get more eyeballs. Locals could tailgate breakfast, have an early game and still have their whole evenings free. just sayin

or maybe noon or 1pm kickoffs

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On 9/24/2024 at 12:39 PM, UofMTigers said:

apparantly Memphis was also trying for the Pac-12 football only and the BE for all other sports but the Pac-12 said no.

Pac-12 tried to play hard ball and it cost them Memphis, Tulane, USF, and UTSA.

Hey Tiger fan,

Do you think that Memphis would take a football-only invite deal and agree to a non-con Basketball scheduling agreement?

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On 9/24/2024 at 2:54 PM, spc_ops said:

Why doesn't Hawaii kick-off games at 10 am Hawaii time? given daylight savings it would be ~4 pm Pacific time, primetime East Coast. Maybe no one on the east coast cares but it seems better than playing at 1 a.m. on the east coast. Plus teams traveling over there are still 6 hours + later so they could play at 10 am no problem. Hawaii could schedule more central and east coast teams OOC and get more eyeballs. Locals could tailgate breakfast, have an early game and still have their whole evenings free. just sayin

The humidity was horrible--they have done it for a few national telecasts that TV wanted but attendance (back then) was like 10-15k lower--arguably it would matter less now.

I'd argue that their unique time slot is more of an advantage now.

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On 9/24/2024 at 3:06 PM, spc_ops said:

Hey Tiger fan,

Do you think that Memphis would take a football-only invite deal and agree to a non-con Basketball scheduling agreement?

Memphis would have taken the all sports offer if they would have tripled the tiny 2.5m towards exit fees and offered some kind of guarantee re the yearly payout other than the firm that got you to turn down 30m from ESPN

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On 9/11/2024 at 2:55 PM, MissionTrails said:

Not anymore, m'lady. That ship has sailed. 🤣

 

On 9/24/2024 at 12:39 PM, UofMTigers said:

apparantly Memphis was also trying for the Pac-12 football only and the BE for all other sports but the Pac-12 said no.

Pac-12 tried to play hard ball and it cost them Memphis, Tulane, USF, and UTSA.

A wonderful outcome for the many who want the conference to be western-oriented and who wanted nothing to do with the AAC.

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On 9/24/2024 at 3:39 PM, UofMTigers said:

apparantly Memphis was also trying for the Pac-12 football only and the BE for all other sports but the Pac-12 said no.

I doubt the Big East would have signed up for that even if the PAC had said yes. With the exception of UConn, who's kind of grandfathered in, they only want small Catholic private schools.

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