Conference Realignment thread

[ShoichiKUN808]

On 9/23/2024 at 2:24 PM, spc_ops said:

I say UNLV is looking at AAC. Why would they tell the PAC no and then yes in the same day?

Supposedly it was when they thought all 8 would stick together, USU decided not to.
https://x.com/petethamel/status/1838370269091524713?s=46&t=jGJfs2BfRezfixKoKgWIiw

[ziggy29]

Wondering if USU will be remembered as the program that broke the MWC.

[utgrizfan]

On 9/23/2024 at 6:36 PM, ziggy29 said:

Wondering if USU will be remembered as the program that broke the MWC.

Even if UNLV leaves there would be enough $ for the MWC to survive and it seems there is a good chance it will. Air Force would probably stick around due to UNM and Wyoming. If it does happen however beggars can't be choosers:

UTEP..............NMSU

Montana........MSU

Sac State.......Idaho

NDSU.............SDSU

Hawaii (full member)

 

All would be viable and affordable options to keep the MWC intact.

[Lobo Hobo]

On 9/23/2024 at 6:36 PM, ziggy29 said:

Wondering if USU will be remembered as the program that broke the MWC.

Yes they will

[Brew_Poke]

On 9/23/2024 at 6:38 PM, utgrizfan said:

Even if UNLV leaves there would be enough $ for the MWC to survive and it seems there is a good chance it will. Air Force would probably stick around due to UNM and Wyoming. If it does happen however beggars can't be choosers:

UTEP..............NMSU

Montana........MSU

Sac State.......Idaho

NDSU.............SDSU

Hawaii (full member)

 

All would be viable and affordable options to keep the MWC intact.

Much rather if UW, AFA, and UNM went to AAC or even C-USA.

[Pokez]

On 9/23/2024 at 6:53 PM, Brew_Poke said:

Much rather if UW, AFA, and UNM went to AAC or even C-USA.

If a conference that desperately needed to add members (PAC 12) never wanted anything to do with Wyoming or New Mexico, I hope like hell that those 2 conferences that you mentioned, that aren't desperate to add someone, would take us.

[WasatchAggie]

On 9/23/2024 at 6:36 PM, ziggy29 said:

Wondering if USU will be remembered as the program that broke the MWC.

^^^^

USU was left out of the original WAC because of politics not merit and that led to decades of mediocrity, changing conferences, independence, and even having to join a conference with no geographic relevance (SBC).  I venture the powers that be at USU weren't going to let that happen again.  The MWC, until recently, was a great fit.  However with Suds, Spuds, Prime Jr. and the Dogs leaving, the MWC was no longer stable so we jumped shop.  I personally wish the P2 had merged with the MWC. 

In any event, this is temporary.  AAA football is coming and the have-nots will realign once again--sooner than later--and the deserting 5+1 will have paid a lot of money for no reason.  

We'll all be back together.

[thatsmymammy]

The entire thing is stupid. Breaking up a damn good basketball conference to boot.

[cardrater]

On 9/23/2024 at 4:02 PM, WasatchAggie said:

^^^^

USU was left out of the original WAC because of politics not merit and that led to decades of mediocrity, changing conferences, independence, and even having to join a conference with no geographic relevance (SBC).  I venture the powers that be at USU weren't going to let that happen again.  The MWC, until recently, was a great fit.  However with Suds, Spuds, Prime Jr. and the Dogs leaving, the MWC was no longer stable so we jumped shop.  I personally wish the P2 had merged with the MWC. 

In any event, this is temporary.  AAA football is coming and the have-nots will realign once again--sooner than later--and the deserting 5+1 will have paid a lot of money for no reason.  

We'll all be back together.

lol please… everyone knows the current pac had no desire to really add Utah State, but they had to because all the good  schools we’re telling them to pound sand, so they were desperate and reached out to schools that don’t add any value but add another so-so MW to the conference. IF anything, Utah State should be so grateful that the PAC embarrassed  themselves and did a hail Mary reaching out to a school… that has no value and brings nothing to the new conference. If the baggies didn’t accept it… we all know another dreg would once the invitation arrived. It’s looking to be the MW 2.0, just an expensive one to build.

[alum93]

On 9/23/2024 at 6:53 PM, Brew_Poke said:

Much rather if UW, AFA, and UNM went to AAC or even C-USA.

I don't get it.  Why mess with FCS teams out west at all.  Just take the last 4 standing and join NMSU/UTEP for a western wing to CUSA.  You still get 6 schools out west,  Liberty has deep pockets, and you cut down on travel back east.  La Tech has been in the WAC.  W Kentucky has decent programs.  Why mess with 4 or more FCS schools.  Maybe it's too simple.  If the MWC had kept the losses to 4 or even 5, sure rebuild.  But losing possible 6-7?  Just join up with CUSA and call it a day.  There will me more movement in a few years anyway.  AAC made the right call not joining with PAC in my opinion.

[WasatchAggie]

 

^^^

We have a bigger TV market than the Spuds and Dogs, had the 4th most TV viewership and have brought in the 3rd most revenue over the last few years. The P12 looking to Memphis and company was always a pipe dream.   USU was always in the picture from a realistic perspective.

 

That being said, I'd be upset if I were you too.  We belong in the same conference 

[spc_ops]

On 9/23/2024 at 5:36 PM, ziggy29 said:

Wondering if USU will be remembered as the program that broke the MWC.

choo choo state, right?

[cardrater]

On 9/23/2024 at 4:21 PM, WasatchAggie said:

 

^^^

We have a bigger TV market than the Spuds and Dogs, had the 4th most TV viewership and have brought in the 3rd most revenue over the last few years. The P12 looking to Memphis and company was always a pipe dream.   USU was always in the picture from a realistic perspective.

 

That being said, I'd be upset if I were you too.  We belong in the same conference 

I’m not upset… teams are leaving and paying out the wazu to build a MW 2.0. The schools staying will be fine and make bank the next couple of years. The PAC will get maybe a million more per year because as you said, you and your fellow schools departing don’t have great viewerships… but hey! A perennial power “sisters of the poor” conference was created wooo! 

[Spot50B]

On 9/23/2024 at 8:18 PM, alum93 said:

I don't get it.  Why mess with FCS teams out west at all.  Just take the last 4 standing and join NMSU/UTEP for a western wing to CUSA.  You still get 6 schools out west,  Liberty has deep pockets, and you cut down on travel back east.  La Tech has been in the WAC.  W Kentucky has decent programs.  Why mess with 4 or more FCS schools.  Maybe it's too simple.  If the MWC had kept the losses to 4 or even 5, sure rebuild.  But losing possible 6-7?  Just join up with CUSA and call it a day.  There will me more movement in a few years anyway.  AAC made the right call not joining with PAC in my opinion.

That isn't how it works..The conference with the deeper pockets raids the conference with fewer resources. The MWC is getting a ton of $ from U$C and all of the other revenue schools from the OG PAC. Now they get to spend it to entice new members. Conference USA doesn't have dick..The people with the $ will want to be in charge.

[alum93]

On 9/23/2024 at 9:18 PM, Spot50B said:

That isn't how it works..The conference with the deeper pockets raids the conference with fewer resources. The MWC is getting a ton of $ from U$C and all of the other revenue schools from the OG PAC. Now they get to spend it to entice new members. Conference USA doesn't have dick..The people with the $ will want to be in charge.

I don't disagree.  It just seems there should be a better way.  What FBS teams are left in the upper western part of US?  None.  No is coming from AAC.  The PAC couldn't get them.  So the MWC is going to poach FCS teams from the Big Sky and a couple Texas team from CUSA - maybe?  Sounds rough, even if that is exactly what they are planning to do.  Congrats to the PAC2 for destroying the MWC i guess.  Maybe the upcoming contract will help justify it.

[NorthWestCowboy]

Just read on the Aggie message board that they are like the cat that BSU and SDSU dropped off along the highway and found it's way home the next day.

I had to laugh even though I say Fu@k you Choo Choo!

[Beaver-Poke]

Congrats and welcome to USU. O hope the lit up the "A". 

[LKGates]

On 9/23/2024 at 8:16 PM, cardrater said:

lol please… everyone knows the current pac had no desire to really add Utah State, but they had to because all the good  schools we’re telling them to pound sand, so they were desperate and reached out to schools that don’t add any value but add another so-so MW to the conference. IF anything, Utah State should be so grateful that the PAC embarrassed  themselves and did a hail Mary reaching out to a school… that has no value and brings nothing to the new conference. If the baggies didn’t accept it… we all know another dreg would once the invitation arrived. It’s looking to be the MW 2.0, just an expensive one to build.

You mean, like Nevada?

[415hawaiiboy]

The Benny board fans (at least one of them) seem to think all this cost them was $40MM for the 4.  So the $80MM is all  being paid by the MWC schools. I find that hard to believe, but if so, that is financial malfeasance.

[RebelRobert]

Told all of you that adding Utah State and SJSU was the day the MWC died.