I Am Not Gary Busey Posted September 23, 2024 Share Posted September 23, 2024 On 9/23/2024 at 2:14 PM, BoiseStateOfMind said: I think for our case it's less hubris/arrogance and more just fear of being left behind again. The MWC itself created this perception by being so poorly managed for so long. This conference has not made a single proactive move to improve its standing since the original airport meeting 26 years ago. The MWC sat out multiple rounds of realignment, touting "stability" and "regionalism," while other conferences made moves and surpassed us. This all could have been avoided with better leadership. It's still a solid play, if the four weren't sold on the prestige and allure of the "PAC". If all teams stayed, it would have forced the PAC to join the MWC. OSU and Wazzu played them. They may have been insecure, but that changed to hubris which made them jump, thinking the brand would be strong enough to pull Memphis, etc into a cross country structure. They wanted to get ahead of the power structure, and word even got out they would want UNLV to take less to join. This sort of petty maneuvering is an indicator of buying into something, drinking something that is not based on reality. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAC_FAN Posted September 23, 2024 Share Posted September 23, 2024 On 9/23/2024 at 3:10 PM, LakesideVibes said: Yeah at this point the MWC and PAC should just merge and keep all that money together but I'd imagine ego/pride would get in the way of that. The issue has always been the WSU and OSU boosters who absolutely did not want a move to the MWC. The administration had to appear to do something that wasn't just conceding and joining the MWC. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobo Hobo Posted September 23, 2024 Share Posted September 23, 2024 I hope Gloria has the influence to lock down the remaining MWC members. As a Lobo fan I have always loved playing in this conference and I hope what is left of it can stick together. While I will miss the four that elected to move on, there is still a decent core left that can be built upon. All of college sports will change in a few years anyways, so no matter what happens it is all short term. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spc_ops Posted September 23, 2024 Share Posted September 23, 2024 The Pac swung and missed today. The Gonzaga is a good get if it works out, but the money isn't going to be there like they thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebasour Posted September 23, 2024 Share Posted September 23, 2024 It's kinda hard not to get your feelings hurt when you see how much money these schools are paying to not have to play us anymore 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brew_Poke Posted September 23, 2024 Share Posted September 23, 2024 On 9/23/2024 at 2:47 PM, I Am Not Gary Busey said: Yea, this is what i was thinking, this whole thing is so strange, it makes me think BSU, CSU, SDSU, and Fresno State drank the PAC Hubris Kool-Aid. It's crazy, but what we are seeing is "Culture Eats Strategy" in action. PAC culture of arrogance in action. OSU/Wazzu still have it and lack awareness, and infected the four other schools. It will probably all work out, but it didn't have to play out this way, and they never had as strong a hand as they thought. SDSU was already there to begin with, no WOSU Kool-Aid necessary. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoichiKUN808 Posted September 23, 2024 Share Posted September 23, 2024 with the newest updates being reported by some outlets. Would be amazed if Gloria was able to hold the conference together from getting picked off by the PAC6 after the AAC got the members who were on the edge of leaving to stick to the conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebasour Posted September 23, 2024 Share Posted September 23, 2024 Latest update: 5 PM deadline (so an hour from now) to sign a deal to keep The MWC intact. USU, SJSU, Nevada, and UNLV have yet to sign https://sports.yahoo.com/pac-12-targeting-mountain-west-members-for-expansion-after-aac-schools-spurn-interest-215340043.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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spc_ops Posted September 23, 2024 Share Posted September 23, 2024 On 9/23/2024 at 3:00 PM, sebasour said: Latest update: 5 PM deadline (so an hour from now) to sign a deal to keep The MWC intact. USU, SJSU, Nevada, and UNLV have yet to sign https://sports.yahoo.com/pac-12-targeting-mountain-west-members-for-expansion-after-aac-schools-spurn-interest-215340043.html Here's the problem each institution has to decide if they sign the GOR, they have zero hope of going to the PAC. If you sign the GOR hoping the others will but one of these signers does not, they will get the invite and you will be left behind. That's how it unravels so quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UofMTigers Posted September 23, 2024 Share Posted September 23, 2024 damn, stuck on the island of misfit toys yet again...I need booze. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWestCowboy Posted September 23, 2024 Share Posted September 23, 2024 On 9/23/2024 at 3:10 PM, UofMTigers said: damn, stuck on the island of misfit toys yet again...I need booze. The FBS world is going to change so much by 2030. Don't punish your liver too much in the meantime. Take sips not chugs. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJSUfreightdog Posted September 23, 2024 Share Posted September 23, 2024 On 9/23/2024 at 1:05 PM, 415hawaiiboy said: @RebelRobert Robert what should happen? This is like summoning a demon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebasour Posted September 23, 2024 Share Posted September 23, 2024 YOU BEAUTIFUL VEGAS BASTARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! https://x.com/PeteThamel/status/1838341566601048329 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trvitmvnz Posted September 23, 2024 Share Posted September 23, 2024 Gloria is going to win this chess game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoichiKUN808 Posted September 23, 2024 Share Posted September 23, 2024 UNLV supposedly committing to the MW is huge news if true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestintheWest Posted September 23, 2024 Share Posted September 23, 2024 UNLV just killed the PAC 12. LOL Quote All is well, For Rice is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbpack Posted September 23, 2024 Share Posted September 23, 2024 UNLV saves the conference lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UofMTigers Posted September 23, 2024 Share Posted September 23, 2024 did little ole Memphis just break the Pac-12 by saying 'no'? wow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trvitmvnz Posted September 23, 2024 Share Posted September 23, 2024 On 9/23/2024 at 12:22 PM, UofMTigers said: did little ole Memphis just break the Pac-12 by saying 'no'? wow... AAC was the knockdown. UNLV was the haymaker KO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...