415hawaiiboy Posted September 13, 2024 Share Posted September 13, 2024 Hawaii AD was at Temple so he knows the AAC, per his radio interview today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
415hawaiiboy Posted September 13, 2024 Share Posted September 13, 2024 If AF goes to AAC, could affect the Commander and Chief game exclusive time slot they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedude15 Posted September 13, 2024 Share Posted September 13, 2024 Yea to me air force and hawaii as football only to aac makes a lot of sense. That would probably open up unlv (if the state let's them go without nevada) to the Pac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughrider Posted September 13, 2024 Share Posted September 13, 2024 On 9/13/2024 at 11:54 AM, thedude15 said: Yea to me air force and hawaii as football only to aac makes a lot of sense. That would probably open up unlv (if the state let's them go without nevada) to the Pac. What is the flight time from Tampa to Honolulu? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedude15 Posted September 13, 2024 Share Posted September 13, 2024 On 9/13/2024 at 10:58 AM, roughrider said: What is the flight time from Tampa to Honolulu? Who cares. Football only. 6 road games Hawaii already has a great place (travel wise) for Olympic sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachedwheat Posted September 13, 2024 Share Posted September 13, 2024 Pac-12 expansion phase 1 add 3 teams Football and 1 Basketball. Wazzu, Oregon State, Boise, Fresno, CSU, SDSU..... add UNLV, New Mexico and UTSA in all sports Grand Canyon in Basketball only That is 8 conference games in football and 18 in basketball. People want Gonzaga but i think the big 12 adds the Zags and Uconn in basketball only. Pac-12 expansion phase 2 after a few years of stabilization. Add 3 teams football and 1 Basketball again. Wazzu, Oregon State, Boise, Fresno, SDSU and UNLV in western conference plus Grand Canyon in Basketball only CSU, New Mexico, UTSA... add Tulane, Memphis, USF in eastern conference plus Wichita State in Basketball only 5 games in division plus 3 in other conference for football. 12 in division plus 7 in other conference in Basketball Pac-12 expansion phase 3 after ACC loses some teams or SMU and Cal leave for travel reasons. Add 4 in Football Wazzu, Oregon State, Boise, Fresno, SDSU, UNLV, CSU and Cal in football and Grand Canyon in Basketball only New Mexico, UTSA, Tulane, Memphis, USF, SMU, UAB and Liberty in football and Wichita State in Basketball only 7 games in division plus 2 in other conference for football. 16 in division plus 4 in other conference in Basketball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachedwheat Posted September 13, 2024 Share Posted September 13, 2024 If I am right and UNLV and New Mexico leave for the PAC-12, I think Air Force would go to the AAC to replace UTSA. Hawaii would join the Big West in all sports Mountain west would be down to 4 schools but hold it together and the new conference looks like this San Jose State, Nevada, Wyoming and Utah State... add Sam Houston State, Louisiana Tech, UTEP and NMSU from Conf USA then add Eastern Washington, Idaho, Montana and Montana State from Division 2 to make a 12 team Conference. If they wanted to go to 16 for some reason I think they would add Sac State, NDSU, SDSU and either N. Arizona or Portland State. I think Conference USA will be disintegrated after that. Jacksonville State and FIU will be picked up by SunBelt to give them 16 teams. Kennesaw State drops back down to Div 2. Liberty goes independent until the PAC-12 picks them up in the future. Middle Tenn State and Western Kentucky join the MAC along with Uconn and Umass in football to give the MAC 16 teams also. Notre Dame finds out that the new playoff format is better for them if they are in a conference and finally joins the ACC to give them 16 teams again. The End. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techdawg88 Posted September 13, 2024 Share Posted September 13, 2024 On 9/13/2024 at 2:57 PM, bleachedwheat said: If I am right and UNLV and New Mexico leave for the PAC-12, I think Air Force would go to the AAC to replace UTSA. Hawaii would join the Big West in all sports Mountain west would be down to 4 schools but hold it together and the new conference looks like this San Jose State, Nevada, Wyoming and Utah State... add Sam Houston State, Louisiana Tech, UTEP and NMSU from Conf USA then add Eastern Washington, Idaho, Montana and Montana State from Division 2 to make a 12 team Conference. If they wanted to go to 16 for some reason I think they would add Sac State, NDSU, SDSU and either N. Arizona or Portland State. I think Conference USA will be disintegrated after that. Jacksonville State and FIU will be picked up by SunBelt to give them 16 teams. Kennesaw State drops back down to Div 2. Liberty goes independent until the PAC-12 picks them up in the future. Middle Tenn State and Western Kentucky join the MAC along with Uconn and Umass in football to give the MAC 16 teams also. Notre Dame finds out that the new playoff format is better for them if they are in a conference and finally joins the ACC to give them 16 teams again. The End. where do Delaware and Missouri State go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver-Poke Posted September 13, 2024 Share Posted September 13, 2024 An established conference like the WCC is not going to allow Grand Canyon or Gonzaga to play basketball in another conference and still maintain conference membership in other sports. It's all or nothing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanDiegoPoke Posted September 13, 2024 Share Posted September 13, 2024 On 9/13/2024 at 10:58 AM, roughrider said: What is the flight time from Tampa to Honolulu? 12 hours, as expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughrider Posted September 13, 2024 Share Posted September 13, 2024 On 9/13/2024 at 2:47 PM, SanDiegoPoke said: 12 hours, as expected. yikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughrider Posted September 13, 2024 Share Posted September 13, 2024 On 9/13/2024 at 12:06 PM, thedude15 said: Who cares. Football only. 6 road games Hawaii already has a great place (travel wise) for Olympic sports. Brett McMurphy who lives in Tampa said there's no way USF would be interested in the PAC, let alone MWC. Can't see USF in any future plans out west. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB in Vegas Posted September 13, 2024 Share Posted September 13, 2024 On 9/13/2024 at 12:25 PM, bleachedwheat said: Pac-12 expansion phase 1 add 3 teams Football and 1 Basketball. Wazzu, Oregon State, Boise, Fresno, CSU, SDSU..... add UNLV, New Mexico and UTSA in all sports Grand Canyon in Basketball only That is 8 conference games in football and 18 in basketball. People want Gonzaga but i think the big 12 adds the Zags and Uconn in basketball only. Pac-12 expansion phase 2 after a few years of stabilization. Add 3 teams football and 1 Basketball again. Wazzu, Oregon State, Boise, Fresno, SDSU and UNLV in western conference plus Grand Canyon in Basketball only CSU, New Mexico, UTSA... add Tulane, Memphis, USF in eastern conference plus Wichita State in Basketball only 5 games in division plus 3 in other conference for football. 12 in division plus 7 in other conference in Basketball Pac-12 expansion phase 3 after ACC loses some teams or SMU and Cal leave for travel reasons. Add 4 in Football Wazzu, Oregon State, Boise, Fresno, SDSU, UNLV, CSU and Cal in football and Grand Canyon in Basketball only New Mexico, UTSA, Tulane, Memphis, USF, SMU, UAB and Liberty in football and Wichita State in Basketball only 7 games in division plus 2 in other conference for football. 16 in division plus 4 in other conference in Basketball UNLV can't afford the $ 17 million to exit. PAC can't afford another $ 27 million to pay for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobo Hobo Posted September 13, 2024 Share Posted September 13, 2024 On 9/13/2024 at 1:57 PM, bleachedwheat said: If I am right and UNLV and New Mexico leave for the PAC-12, I think Air Force would go to the AAC to replace UTSA. Hawaii would join the Big West in all sports Mountain west would be down to 4 schools but hold it together and the new conference looks like this San Jose State, Nevada, Wyoming and Utah State... add Sam Houston State, Louisiana Tech, UTEP and NMSU from Conf USA then add Eastern Washington, Idaho, Montana and Montana State from Division 2 to make a 12 team Conference. If they wanted to go to 16 for some reason I think they would add Sac State, NDSU, SDSU and either N. Arizona or Portland State. I think Conference USA will be disintegrated after that. Jacksonville State and FIU will be picked up by SunBelt to give them 16 teams. Kennesaw State drops back down to Div 2. Liberty goes independent until the PAC-12 picks them up in the future. Middle Tenn State and Western Kentucky join the MAC along with Uconn and Umass in football to give the MAC 16 teams also. Notre Dame finds out that the new playoff format is better for them if they are in a conference and finally joins the ACC to give them 16 teams again. The End. I can see UNLV going to Pac, but you are high if you think the worst team in football (UNM) for years now, would even be on their radar. It is all about football. The Lobos will end up in Siberia if the MWC dissolves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachedwheat Posted September 13, 2024 Share Posted September 13, 2024 On 9/13/2024 at 1:18 PM, techdawg88 said: where do Delaware and Missouri State go? I like that. Forgot to take the American to 16 teams might as well put Delaware, Missouri State, Mercer, Southern Illinois, Northern Iowa and Kennesaw State in that conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techdawg88 Posted September 13, 2024 Share Posted September 13, 2024 On 9/13/2024 at 4:27 PM, Lobo Hobo said: I can see UNLV going to Pac, but you are high if you think the worst team in football (UNM) for years now, would even be on their radar. It is all about football. The Lobos will end up in Siberia if the MWC dissolves. I'm all for CUSA inviting UNM (and whomever is left) to CUSA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtball Posted September 13, 2024 Share Posted September 13, 2024 On 9/13/2024 at 2:27 PM, Lobo Hobo said: I can see UNLV going to Pac, but you are high if you think the worst team in football (UNM) for years now, would even be on their radar. It is all about football. The Lobos will end up in Siberia if the MWC dissolves. Siberia lol. Quote "Make like a tree and scram" - Rosegreen Your administration is the reason why our basketball league is bleeding out currently. If you didn't insist on San Jose being in the MWC, so you guys would have someone that votes similar to SDSU, every team in the MWC wouldn't have to play 2 games vs. a team with a 330 RPI ranking EVERY season. You guys are as stupid as you are desperate. - Cowboy Junky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachedwheat Posted September 13, 2024 Share Posted September 13, 2024 New Mexico is a dud in Football but with increased revenue and recruiting they have the potential to turn it around in just a few years. They are an R1 University They have a 39,000 capacity stadium They play in a city with over a half million people, that would be top 5 in the new PAC They are regional, the inception of the PAC I think travel cost will be important; for the beginning anyway. The Pit is as good a venue as anywhere out west. It's not likely but I wouldn't write them off completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgaucho Posted September 13, 2024 Share Posted September 13, 2024 On 9/13/2024 at 12:57 PM, bleachedwheat said: If I am right and UNLV and New Mexico leave for the PAC-12, I think Air Force would go to the AAC to replace UTSA. Hawaii would join the Big West in all sports Mountain west would be down to 4 schools but hold it together and the new conference looks like this San Jose State, Nevada, Wyoming and Utah State... add Sam Houston State, Louisiana Tech, UTEP and NMSU from Conf USA then add Eastern Washington, Idaho, Montana and Montana State from Division 2 to make a 12 team Conference. If they wanted to go to 16 for some reason I think they would add Sac State, NDSU, SDSU and either N. Arizona or Portland State. I think Conference USA will be disintegrated after that. Jacksonville State and FIU will be picked up by SunBelt to give them 16 teams. Kennesaw State drops back down to Div 2. Liberty goes independent until the PAC-12 picks them up in the future. Middle Tenn State and Western Kentucky join the MAC along with Uconn and Umass in football to give the MAC 16 teams also. Notre Dame finds out that the new playoff format is better for them if they are in a conference and finally joins the ACC to give them 16 teams again. The End. Hawaii's already in the Big West for all sports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachedwheat Posted September 13, 2024 Share Posted September 13, 2024 On 9/13/2024 at 3:06 PM, jdgaucho said: Hawaii's already in the Big West for all sports Right, might as well add football to that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
