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22 minutes ago, 818SUDSFan said:

Makes sense on multiple levels.

1. Military academy Oly sports simply cannot be consistently competitive at the FBS level.

2. There is already one military academy in the AAC for football only.

3. Joining the AAC for football would enable AFA to add another OOC opponent since their obligatory contest against Navy would become a conference game.

4. AFA could send its Olys to Summit League schools for no more money than it's spending to send them to MWC sites.

5. Troy Calhoun is an AFA alumnus who is huge in Colorado Springs so AFA doesn't want to lose him to another school and Calhoun hates the MWC.

6. It's been rumored for some time that Aresco has wanted all service academies and getting AFA might enable the AAC to pressure Army to join too.

7. Despite getting AFA only for football, so doing would soothe Aresco's massive ego and give him another bullet to fire at Craig Thompson in their urination match.

I wonder if AFA is looking at the WCC to replace BYU?    While not great for basketball AFA has a number of men’s minor sports that would help the WCC to remain sponsoring or possibly add.   

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8 minutes ago, Jack Bauer said:

Kinda crazy. Matt Brown doesn't have a rep as a troll either. Very interesting.

I bought Brown's book and it wasn't bad. However, the guy strikes me as being merely a Mormon who loves BYU football and did a lot of research to put the thing together. It doesn't contain any inside info that I'm aware of.

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27 minutes ago, Cowboy said:

 

The above comment is why Boise State will look hard at the AAC.

If Boise isn't trying to establish themselves as better than the AAC teams (by regularly beating them), then they will never get the Big 12's attention (due to geography and other reasons - such as basketball).

As the AAC pushes other teams to the NY6, like Memphis/USF/etc, those teams will get the focus.

Thompson is counting on it.

Wow..You can read minds too?

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28 minutes ago, sactowndog said:

Yep, CSU has a habit of being part of something and then picking up their ball and leaving.   

Besides the creation of the MW, what else are you talking about?

Man, you are still very bitter about the WAC/MW split.  

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3 hours ago, quickdraw said:

This move makes more sense than BS U to the B12. There must be some motivation though behind AFA and CSU to want to exit. We all know the conference has heartburn with the unequal revenue sharing and maybe even more so with how that came about. 
 

The 2 teams make convenient travel partners and probably make slightly better money. Combine that with leaving bad feelings behind. This one is believable.

Its the only shot they have to be competitive on FB or B-ball.

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3 hours ago, cosinama said:

CSU must be anticipating future defections. My only guess is they’re trying to get out in front of something. But they suck at everything so it might just be they suck at conference realignment as well. 

Yeah, I don't get leaving your Front Range partners and a stable Conference behind.

But then, they over-leveraged an empty edifice to dreams of non-existent Football glory. Then topped it off by throwing money at a Grifter to tell them to hire a former incompetent lackey of his.

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35 minutes ago, Wyobraska said:

Besides the creation of the MW, what else are you talking about?

Man, you are still very bitter about the WAC/MW split.  

1) the creation of the MWC

2) leading the term sheet creation and then now bailing because of it.   
 

 

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1 hour ago, mugtang said:

If I remember correctly it was CSU’s president at the time that went with Thompson to Boise to entice them to stay with that deal.  

Yep and they and Wyoming were the ones selling how great it would be.  And it was for Wyoming.   

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23 minutes ago, jewelz4562000 said:

Lol why would you take CSU? Your conference just got decimated, I know lets grab the 2 to 3rd worst team in the MW!!! That will fix it.  Wouldn't like losing AF minus hoops which is good.

Location: east of the Rockies. Broadcast value: perceived Denver market. Academics and other university related metrics: above average. Facilities and AD budget: above average for mid major. CSU would be a safe pick for the AAC with little risk in everything except their performance in FB.

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Mike Aresco just got a contract extension.  Thru July 2025.

 

Given the financial haircut the AAC is about to get, if it comes with a raise then its time to question the academic integrity of Tulane, Tulsa, etc....

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25 minutes ago, quickdraw said:

Location: east of the Rockies. Broadcast value: perceived Denver market. Academics and other university related metrics: above average. Facilities and AD budget: above average for mid major. CSU would be a safe pick for the AAC with little risk in everything except their performance in FB.

So they have reached the point where they are just trying to find a warm body near a large city, who will say, "yes."

 

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1 minute ago, Aslowhiteguy said:

So they have reached the point where they are just trying to find a warm body near a large city, who will say, "yes."

 

How do you think Tulane and Tulsa got in?

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1 hour ago, sactowndog said:

1) the creation of the MWC

2) leading the term sheet creation and then now bailing because of it.   
 

 

We were discussing CSU leaving which they haven't confirmed, so really, they left the WAC quite some years ago.  I wouldn't call that a history really 

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34 minutes ago, quickdraw said:

Location: east of the Rockies. Broadcast value: perceived Denver market. Academics and other university related metrics: above average. Facilities and AD budget: above average for mid major. CSU would be a safe pick for the AAC with little risk in everything except their performance in FB.

Hear, hear. This is also why I'm surprised there is so much excitement from this board about them leaving as though it is neutral for the conference or a net positive. In the context of the MWC, it's well-funded, sound academically, centrally located, gets at least some attention from the Denver media market, and has great football facilities. Of course it has warts. If any school in this conference didn't, they wouldn't be in the MWC. The MWC benefits a lot from having a near monopoly on D1 football on the Front Range. I for one, would be bummed and perplexed if CSU leaves. Not sure why many on this board seem to think its a win to lose a stable, if underperforming conference member.  

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2 minutes ago, Rambouche said:

Hear, hear. This is also why I'm surprised there is so much excitement from this board about them leaving as though it is neutral for the conference or a net positive. In the context of the MWC, it's well-funded, sound academically, centrally located, gets at least some attention from the Denver media market, and has great football facilities. Of course it has warts. If any school in this conference didn't, they wouldn't be in the MWC. The MWC benefits a lot from having a near monopoly on D1 football on the Front Range. I for one, would be bummed and perplexed if CSU leaves. Not sure why many on this board seem to think its a win to lose a stable, if underperforming conference member.  

No one really wants to see them leave.  But there is a silver lining if they do.

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2 hours ago, 818SUDSFan said:

I bought Brown's book and it wasn't bad. However, the guy strikes me as being merely a Mormon who loves BYU football and did a lot of research to put the thing together. It doesn't contain any inside info that I'm aware of.

He likes Ohio State. I don't think he hates BYU, but I don't think he loves them either.

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3 minutes ago, Rambouche said:

Hear, hear. This is also why I'm surprised there is so much excitement from this board about them leaving as though it is neutral for the conference or a net positive. In the context of the MWC, it's well-funded, sound academically, centrally located, gets at least some attention from the Denver media market, and has great football facilities. Of course it has warts. If any school in this conference didn't, they wouldn't be in the MWC. The MWC benefits a lot from having a near monopoly on D1 football on the Front Range. I for one, would be bummed and perplexed if CSU leaves. Not sure why many on this board seem to think its a win to lose a stable, if underperforming conference member.  

It matters not what members of this board think...I like CSU, but if they want to leave they are going to leave..We have no way of knowing how that will affect the MW at this point.

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