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On 3/29/2024 at 10:27 PM, SteedLaw said:

Sorry for hurting your feelings, cupcake.😉 Truth hurts.😉

Sure does. Nobody in Utah cares about USU outside of Ogden, errr Logan.  Leave the state of Utah and few know either even exist.  Facts.

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On 3/30/2024 at 11:38 AM, NorCalCoug said:

Sure does. Nobody in Utah cares about USU outside of Ogden, errr Logan.  Leave the state of Utah and few know either even exist.  Facts.

So says the clueless zoob lurking on the MWC forums?🤣 Again, truth hurts pal. It must suck balls being a mega superfan of a bottom-dweller team that can’t make the post-season, about whose future its own owners could not possibly care less. BYU-P…meet BYU-H and BYU-I. Your team’s future. Facts.😉

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On 3/29/2024 at 4:59 PM, Dealwit said:

Logan is just 30 miles north of the Salt Lake metro area with north Ogden at the northern edge.  Also Ft. Collin’s is just north of the Denver metro, as for Fresno, its metro is larger than El Paso’s.  So basically all those including Albuquerque have significantly larger TV markets.  As for the Montana schools, I don’t see the appeal for those very small markets.

Guys C’mon. I like Utah State. My sister is a USU Grad. I have family up there. To make Utah State sound like it’s part of our mainstream metro and “ only 30 miles away” is inaccurate. it’s over the hill and far away. 
 

There are USU fans along the Wasatch Front but not many.  Utah and BYU control this market and it’s not even close. 

Look at TV ratings for 2023. Utah ranked 25th nationally even in a bad year. BYU ranked 36th. USU was near the bottom of the list at 117th with only about 55K viewers per game. 
 

https://medium.com/run-it-back-with-zach/which-college-football-programs-were-most-watched-in-2023-2e81ef62d3bf

 

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On 3/30/2024 at 12:03 PM, Gonzagafan2021 said:

No big 12 teams in the elite 8

Yep.  8 bids and none of them made it past the S16. Many touted the conference as the best basketball conference. 
 

The numbers don’t agree. 

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On 3/30/2024 at 12:02 PM, SteedLaw said:

So says the clueless zoob lurking on the MWC forums?🤣 Again, truth hurts pal. It must suck balls being a mega superfan of a bottom-dweller team that can’t make the post-season, about whose future its own owners could not possibly care less. BYU-P…meet BYU-H and BYU-I. Your team’s future. Facts.😉

Yeah, you really are that dumb…. 😂 

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On 3/29/2024 at 10:10 AM, Beaver-Poke said:

He's some rando guy posting out of his mom's basement in Beaverton. No real Beaver fans refers to OSU as "OS." 

BTW to others, Corvallis and Pullman may be small cities, but the majority of their graduates/fans live in Portland and Seattle, which are huge markets. I know OSU, and I believe Wazzu, each finished in the top 30 nationally in TV ratings for their games. Yes, part of it was the opposition. But they draw excellent numbers from two of the biggest West Coast TV markets. 

Yep.......even though the location of the universities might be rural or smaller cities, their reach is more regional.

Most of the B12 is universities located in smaller cities and not major metros, yet they carry their states interest.........same with SEC which has universities in Tuscaloosa, Auburn, Gainsville, Athens etc -- but they carry the interests of their entire states & regions

The MWC doesn't have this except for maybe Wyoming or New Mexico.......most of the MWC is a smaller footprint of interest 

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On 3/30/2024 at 2:24 PM, UNLV2001 said:

Yep.......even though the location of the universities might be rural or smaller cities, their reach is more regional.

Most of the B12 is universities located in smaller cities and not major metros, yet they carry their states interest.........same with SEC which has universities in Tuscaloosa, Auburn, Gainsville, Athens etc -- but they carry the interests of their entire states & regions

The MWC doesn't have this except for maybe Wyoming or New Mexico.......most of the MWC is a smaller footprint of interest 

You forgot Boise.

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On 3/30/2024 at 2:24 PM, UNLV2001 said:

Yep.......even though the location of the universities might be rural or smaller cities, their reach is more regional.

Most of the B12 is universities located in smaller cities and not major metros, yet they carry their states interest.........same with SEC which has universities in Tuscaloosa, Auburn, Gainsville, Athens etc -- but they carry the interests of their entire states & regions

The MWC doesn't have this except for maybe Wyoming or New Mexico.......most of the MWC is a smaller footprint of interest 

Wyoming is definitely not a maybe in this category.

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On 3/30/2024 at 4:12 PM, Brew_Poke said:

Wyoming is definitely not a maybe in this category.

Being it's the only U in the state it's obvious..........sadly the entire state is less population than a mid sized city 

The real stunner is how CSU controls the 43 million in the Denver area from their remote outpost of Ft Collins 

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On 3/31/2024 at 11:39 AM, UNLV2001 said:

Being it's the only U in the state it's obvious..........sadly the entire state is less population than a mid sized city 

The real stunner is how CSU controls the 43 million in the Denver area from their remote outpost of Ft Collins 

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On 3/30/2024 at 10:38 AM, NorCalCoug said:

Sure does. Nobody in Utah cares about USU outside of Ogden, errr Logan.  Leave the state of Utah and few know either even exist.  Facts.

Well, I'm in L.A. and I know about USU.

All anybody can be expected to do is their best given the circumstances and although I didn't expect it, Utah State has done their best with the hand they've been dealt. Major props to USU I say.

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On 3/31/2024 at 4:43 PM, azgreg said:

So, is the possibility of a merger of the MW and PAC-2 still a possibility?

 

Just checked with Magic 8 ball ( for those who don't know Google it)....it said "ask again later."

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On 3/31/2024 at 3:43 PM, azgreg said:

So, is the possibility of a merger of the MW and PAC-2 still a possibility?

 

Balls in the P2 court.  They know how to get ahold of us.  Currently they are exhausting all options to avoid it.

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When the time comes they'll try to cherry pick the MWC thinking their invite is soooo attractive that any MWC would pony up the big MWC exit fee.   When Gloria has everyone in lock step, the Pac2 will eventually crawl into a merger. Gonna bust a cap in 2Pac

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On 3/31/2024 at 4:06 PM, roughrider said:

When the time comes they'll try to cherry pick the MWC thinking their invite is soooo attractive that any MWC would pony up the big MWC exit fee.   When Gloria has everyone in lock step, the Pac2 will eventually crawl into a merger. Gonna bust a cap in 2Pac

You're 100% on the nose with this being in Gloria's court.  She'll be in charge of overseeing a proposal for a merger and what that proposal contains (uneven revenue, unbalanced schedules, and a thousand more details), as well as the most important part of getting 12 conference presidents in a unified status as to how they want to proceed.  I don't know if I trust her to handle this or not.  Completely neutral on being optimistic or pessimistic.  Slapping SDSU's pee-pee for the stupid way they attempted to leave/not leave was childs play compared to this matter.  She's impressive, but this will determine if she's another Hair, or the leader we need going forward.

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On 3/31/2024 at 4:17 PM, Headbutt said:

You're 100% on the nose with this being in Gloria's court.  She'll be in charge of overseeing a proposal for a merger and what that proposal contains (uneven revenue, unbalanced schedules, and a thousand more details), as well as the most important part of getting 12 conference presidents in a unified status as to how they want to proceed.  I don't know if I trust her to handle this or not.  Completely neutral on being optimistic or pessimistic.  Slapping SDSU's pee-pee for the stupid way they attempted to leave/not leave was childs play compared to this matter.  She's impressive, but this will determine if she's another Hair, or the leader we need going forward.

If unity is broken by one MWC school it won't even mean the floodgate is open.  Not many of us can pony up the fee and their war chest won't cover it for the 7-9 teams they'd want. 

Gloria seems gangster but that will be for sure here MWC career defining moment.   I gave up betting on anything to do with conference alignment nonsense almost 20 years ago.

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On 3/31/2024 at 4:46 PM, roughrider said:

If unity is broken by one MWC school it won't even mean the floodgate is open.  Not many of us can pony up the fee and their war chest won't cover it for the 7-9 teams they'd want. 

Gloria seems gangster but that will be for sure here MWC career defining moment.   I gave up betting on anything to do with conference alignment nonsense almost 20 years ago.

One correction.  None of us can pony up the fee.  I mean, any of us can find the money, but it's prohibitive.  It won't happen.  The theory of 9 MWC schools dissolving the conference to eliminate the fee is a joke.  The remaining three would feast on that lawsuit, not to mention that I don't think you'd find nine that are dumb enough to chase that rainbow.

Let's assume that the new hypothetical conference gains $20 million per school over 5 years.  That's $100 million.  The exit fee at it's lowest is $17 million with an additional $20 million per school penalty to the Pac for the effort.  Joining schools would have to be on the hook for half of that in order for it to even be doable.  That's over 30% of a five year media deal to start the most unstable conference in an unstable industry.  Hopefully no MWC prez is that stupid.

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