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On 3/28/2024 at 8:06 PM, CKS007 said:

What drugs is he on?

He's a known Twitter troll.

It gives me a headache just trying to think down to your level

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On 3/28/2024 at 1:16 PM, jdgaucho said:

 

 

 

Until he hears that at least one TV network is willing to be equally aggressive in paying big bucks to finance "the rebirth of a modern Pac-10" he shouldn't hold his breath.

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On 3/28/2024 at 1:06 PM, Billings said:

Doubt ACC loses more than 6 -7 or so members.   That will leave at least 10 member to rebuild.  They add Meephis, Tulane and USF.  PAC 2 running out of options

Maybe West Virginia.

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On 3/28/2024 at 9:34 PM, Wyobraska said:

They would be demoting themselves.  I don't see it. 

Reduced expenses and enhanced student athlete welfare, with outstanding, close, rivals. I'd think long and hard about it if I were them.

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On 3/28/2024 at 9:42 PM, Brew_Poke said:

Reduced expenses and enhanced student athlete welfare, with outstanding, close, rivals. I'd think long and hard about it if I were them.

I think there would be a good chance that Pitt moves to the Big 12 and with Pitt and Cincy in the Big 12, they would be set.  Someone like Va Tech might slide over as well.  With more additions they wouldn't be on such an island.  

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On 3/28/2024 at 9:42 PM, Brew_Poke said:

Reduced expenses and enhanced student athlete welfare, with outstanding, close, rivals. I'd think long and hard about it if I were them.

Half the TV $$$…. Seems reasonable.

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On 3/28/2024 at 10:31 PM, Wyobraska said:

I think there would be a good chance that Pitt moves to the Big 12 and with Pitt and Cincy in the Big 12, they would be set.  Someone like Va Tech might slide over as well.  With more additions they wouldn't be on such an island.  

Shocking that some on this board actually think an ACC robbed of its biggest brands would even have a shot at luring BigXII schools away.  The BigXII has a TV deal that will be re-upped before the next round of ACC TV negotiations.  They will be set.  The ACC isn’t poaching the BigXII.  The ACC minus its top 4 or so brands won’t command a TV deal anywhere close to the BigXII anyway.

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On 3/28/2024 at 5:00 PM, SteedLaw said:

Logan has a metro area of over 160k and is part of the SLC combined statistical area  (over 2.5mm). It is situated in the youngest and, on average, fastest growing state in the union for the last 20 plus years. 
 

USU also has nine campuses throughout the state — it is just a bit different. 
 

Meanwhile, ElPaso is not growing…as in the net population growth is more or less completely flat. 
 

Have to look at trends too there, bud — not just total population. 
 

And, again, I don’t really have a dog in this fight. Why not take both UTEP and Texas State, but the MWC should be looking to add schools in Texas. 

Nobody cares about USU outside of Logan.  😂 

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On 3/29/2024 at 3:39 AM, NorCalCoug said:

Nobody cares about USU outside of Logan.  😂 

Ha! Says the ByU fan whose team can’t make a bowl game and is one and done in the tournament after being overrated all year. 🤣
 

yBU will never compete in the Big XII in football or basketball. They can’t recruit talent. The Rutgers of the Big XII.🤣

But, hey, you will always have ladies track! 

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On 3/28/2024 at 5:52 PM, Headbutt said:

And the Bay Area dwarfs all of those, but nobody goes to football games.  UTEP had an average attendance of just over 19K last year.  U of Montana was about 25.5K.  Just sayin'.

Really no need to go to 16 anyway.

Even more reason to go UTEP over any school in a tiny market.  UTEP in a down year that they end up firing the coach still averaged nearly 20k.  Why go to a small market if the team gets exactly 5k more per game.  You have a 55k football stadium that will draw a heck of a lot more for big games and just a better market overall.  But i agree that there isn't any reason for MWC, or AAC/Sun Belt/MAC, to expand.  The money just isn't there to justify for any of the G5 conferences.  CUSA still needs to add numbers to get to 12, but they will be at 10 next year and that works for now.  If anything,  G5 conferences in general just need to be as stable as possible and be ready when the big boys start a new football conference sometime down the line.  All the MWC needs to do at this point is bring WSU and OSU in under whatever name people want to call it.  16 teams is too many considering who is realistically available.  But it certainly won't surprise me either if they do give it a shot.  

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On 3/28/2024 at 7:06 PM, CKS007 said:

What drugs is he on?

Dude has no sources, never does. Just some random guy throwing shit at the wall to see what will stick.  Just another "hey look at me" Twitter idiot.  It's not worth debating his tweets anymore than a fellow posters ideas.

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On 3/28/2024 at 5:32 PM, Dealwit said:

Last I checked Albuquerque Metro is at 955,000 and El Paso at 868,000.  Albuquerque Metro is almost 100k bigger.

And EP is bigger than Albq, yes.  Just depends on where you want to draw the line, but city population per Google EP is 677k anbd Albq is 561k, or 110k bigger there.  But if you want to talk metro and just draw a bigger circle, that is fine.  Point is both are still decent size cities and someone saying EP isn't growing fast enough as a reason they shouldn't be picked while simultaneously showing numbers for a town of 54k in Logan and surrounding area doesn't make for a good argument.  There are certainly good reasons to discuss and debate expansion regarding UTEP and EP, but population growth isn't one of them. 

I think UTEP and NMSU will both stay in CUSA for the foreseeable future and i am good with that.  If musical chairs start again with the big boys like last year, which i don't see happening, then so be it.  

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On 3/28/2024 at 2:31 PM, SteedLaw said:

This is my point. Never hear anything constructive in response.

Look, I really don’t have a dog in this fight. And, it is certainly not a hill to die on for me. 

The question remains, “Assuming the MWC moves to Texas (and they should) who does the MWC take if not Texas State?”

Texas, TT, A&M, TCU, Baylor, and SMU are already in more lucrative conferences.

North Texas, Rice , and UTSA are in the American League and have exit fees worth tens of million with that league. Also, to break it down further, Rice is a small private school that does not seem to care much at all about athletics. UTSA does not own their stadium. UNT and UTSA play BB at arenas akin to local high schools. Both UTSA and UNT are largely commuter schools anyway.

That leaves UTEP and Texas State as the clear best options. And, unfortunately for UTEP, El Paso really isn’t growing nor is it really “Texas”.

Am I missing something? 

 

 

I like the idea of the MWC adding 2 Texas schools as well.   I don't know why we didn't do that years ago.

Texas State University is a great addition.   Enrollment of 3,873 (34,872 undergraduates).    It is an "college town" school in San Marcos, between Austin and San Antonio.   Great option!

I also like adding UTEP.   New Mexico has never had a true rivalry in this conference.  That would give them a rival.   UTEP has an enrollment of 25,151.  It is the only entertainment option in El Paso, which is usually a good recipe for growth.   

 

Ignore the TCU fan.   He trolls the MWC board along with a Utah fan, who tries to post how the MWC sucks. 

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On 3/28/2024 at 6:06 PM, CKS007 said:

What drugs is he on?

He's some rando guy posting out of his mom's basement in Beaverton. No real Beaver fans refers to OSU as "OS." 

BTW to others, Corvallis and Pullman may be small cities, but the majority of their graduates/fans live in Portland and Seattle, which are huge markets. I know OSU, and I believe Wazzu, each finished in the top 30 nationally in TV ratings for their games. Yes, part of it was the opposition. But they draw excellent numbers from two of the biggest West Coast TV markets. 

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On 3/29/2024 at 11:11 AM, Motown Monty said:

 

I like the idea of the MWC adding 2 Texas schools as well.   I don't know why we didn't do that years ago.

Texas State University is a great addition.   Enrollment of 3,873 (34,872 undergraduates).    It is an "college town" school in San Marcos, between Austin and San Antonio.   Great option!

I also like adding UTEP.   New Mexico has never had a true rivalry in this conference.  That would give them a rival.   UTEP has an enrollment of 25,151.  It is the only entertainment option in El Paso, which is usually a good recipe for growth.   

 

Ignore the TCU fan.   He trolls the MWC board along with a Utah fan, who tries to post how the MWC sucks. 

You like making up your own reality, huh?

 

The best move for the MWC is the P2.  Maybe go full member with Hawaii.  BE that best western conference everybody talks about.  Texas State is scraping the bottom of the barrel.  San Marcos is lost between Austin and SA.  Hell - I'm HELPING pointing out all of this.  Christ - the AAC PASSED on State.  They took a couple schools that barely had a pulse.  That alone ought to tell you something.  UTEP would be ok, but Texans barely acknowledge El Paso is part of the state.  It's closer to Albuquerque than anything of significance in Texas.  And gets zero media coverage in the rest of the state.  Which is kinda important.

 

Dont want to deal in reality?  Fine by me.  More fun that way.

It gives me a headache just trying to think down to your level

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On 3/29/2024 at 6:58 AM, SteedLaw said:

Ha! Says the ByU fan whose team can’t make a bowl game and is one and done in the tournament after being overrated all year. 🤣
 

yBU will never compete in the Big XII in football or basketball. They can’t recruit talent. The Rutgers of the Big XII.🤣

But, hey, you will always have ladies track! 

Did I hurt your feelings?  😂 

Truth is USU is an afterthought outside of Logan.  

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On 3/29/2024 at 10:14 AM, RSF said:

You like making up your own reality, huh?

 

The best move for the MWC is the P2.  Maybe go full member with Hawaii.  BE that best western conference everybody talks about.  Texas State is scraping the bottom of the barrel.  San Marcos is lost between Austin and SA.  Hell - I'm HELPING pointing out all of this.  Christ - the AAC PASSED on State.  They took a couple schools that barely had a pulse.  That alone ought to tell you something.  UTEP would be ok, but Texans barely acknowledge El Paso is part of the state.  It's closer to Albuquerque than anything of significance in Texas.  And gets zero media coverage in the rest of the state.  Which is kinda important.

 

Dont want to deal in reality?  Fine by me.  More fun that way.

 

Your opinion doesn't matter.   You are a pathetic TCU fan, who trolls the MWC Board....all day long.  Bashes on the MWC

Unlike TCU, Texas State and UTEP have larger enrollments, and fit the MWC, because it isn't a school for rich kids.   Some of us like the idea of growing the MWC, and recruiting more in Texas. 

TCU tuition is apparently $53,980 per year...   So we really have not much in common with you guys.   Go troll elsewhere

 

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