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On 2/22/2024 at 10:38 AM, RebelAlliance said:

UCF isn't even the best directional Florida.  USF just made it into the AAU.  UCF is nowhere near admission.  

Not that you care but their 30 year head start in medicine is the only reason they’re in right now.  We are well on our way and will be AAU eventually, along with FSU. 

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On 2/22/2024 at 1:31 PM, bigd said:

Is that true? I haven't seen it anywhere? 

I feel like taking their basketball and rest of their olympic sports would've been a good move. 

Yeah, it's true.  There was a scheduling alliance in the works for BB but the MWC AD's nixed it.  I have seen it written down somewhere, but also heard it from CSU's ex-AD in a podcast.

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On 2/22/2024 at 10:38 AM, Beaver-Poke said:

Utah brought far, far, far more to the Pac-12 table than BYU could have ever hoped to bring. Great football, competitive basketball, great gymnastics, decent volleyball and soccer programs. Their baseball program stinks but it somehow won a league title in 2016. 

Colorado was a Pac-12 flop. It never felt like Colorado was part of the conference to me because we (OSU) never played them in anything. They didn't play baseball, softball, men's soccer, wrestling, gymnastics ... all sports offered by OSU and many other Pac-12 schools. Did they ever win anything in the Pac-12, except for maybe a conference basketball tournament or two? Colorado was chosen because of its academics and the Denver TV market. 

I look forward to the uncertainty of OSU's longtime conference affiliation being resolved. I have no problem with a full OSU/WSU/MWC reverse merger under the older, more marketable and more recognizable Pac-14 brand. 

That's news to me. I thought it was because of the Buff Backers and their hookers and Mr. Promise Keeper and his criminal players.

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On 2/22/2024 at 11:25 AM, SDSUfan said:

UCSD is a power house in multiple disciplines.  Very few schools in the world can compare.

About to win the Big West too

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More evidence that after Cal withdraws from the ACC or is forced out that it should drop football and take those five other UC system schools and find a couple other non-FBS egghead universities in Oregon and/or Washington and form a West Coast version of the Ivy League.

There are plenty more CSU campuses that the remaining seven Big West members could backfill with.

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On 2/22/2024 at 1:44 PM, 818SUDSFan said:

More evidence that after Cal withdraws from the ACC or is forced out that it should drop football and take those five other UC system schools and find a couple other non-FBS egghead universities in Oregon and/or Washington and form a West Coast version of the Ivy League.

There are plenty more CSU campuses that the remaining seven Big West members could backfill with.

 

Nevada and Hawaii would have to be part of that west coast ivy league IMO.

 

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On 2/22/2024 at 12:31 PM, bigd said:

Is that true? I haven't seen it anywhere? 

I feel like taking their basketball and rest of their olympic sports would've been a good move. 

No, it's not true. The MWC wanted far more money per affiliated sport than the WCC. Plus, the WCC has easier/cheaper travel connections, an important factor in Olympic sports with frequent road trips.

The full merger will come in a year or two. The delusional Beaver fans who think the ACC is going to implode, merge with the Big 12, and then take OSU and WSU to form a 3-division mega conference are going to be disappointed.  

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On 2/22/2024 at 4:19 PM, Beaver-Poke said:

No, it's not true. The MWC wanted far more money per affiliated sport than the WCC. Plus, the WCC has easier/cheaper travel connections, an important factor in Olympic sports with frequent road trips.

The full merger will come in a year or two. The delusional Beaver fans who think the ACC is going to implode, merge with the Big 12, and then take OSU and WSU to form a 3-division mega conference are going to be disappointed.  

is there any chance of any of the WCC schools joining the MWC in 2 years?

Gonzaga maybe?

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On 2/22/2024 at 5:19 PM, Beaver-Poke said:

No, it's not true. The MWC wanted far more money per affiliated sport than the WCC. Plus, the WCC has easier/cheaper travel connections, an important factor in Olympic sports with frequent road trips.

The full merger will come in a year or two. The delusional Beaver fans who think the ACC is going to implode, merge with the Big 12, and then take OSU and WSU to form a 3-division mega conference are going to be disappointed.  

OK.  Cool story.  The MWC said yes, MWC BB coaches told their AD no.

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On 2/22/2024 at 5:23 PM, ---I GREEN INFECTION I--- said:

 

@Headbutt is correct.  That's the word from CSU's frmr AD.

 

Interesting.  Like Beaver Poke,  I had heard the MWC had asked for almost $1 million per team and the WCC was far cheaper.

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On 2/22/2024 at 6:30 PM, Billings said:

Interesting.  Like Beaver Poke,  I had heard the MWC had asked for almost $1 million per team and the WCC was far cheaper.

Maybe a little of both.  Maybe the MWC would have asked for $500k if the coaches were on board.  I don't know.  I do know that the MWC BB coaches strongly opposed it and passed that on through their respective AD's.

AD's make FB, etc. schedules.  BB schedules are basically done by the head coaches so I can see why they would have a lot more say in the plan, and maybe the proposed plan was going to upset a lot of negotiations that were in the works.  Just spitballin'.

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On 2/22/2024 at 3:18 PM, Headbutt said:

Yeah, it's true.  There was a scheduling alliance in the works for BB but the MWC AD's nixed it.  I have seen it written down somewhere, but also heard it from CSU's ex-AD in a podcast.

I thought it was a matter that the MWC technically did give the P2 a number, but it was like a million per sport and WCC was willing to do it for 80k a sport.

Adding an affiliate member to come in and potentially take your auto-bids (and then leave after a couple of years) is kind of a hard sell.  Especially if it might also increase travel costs.

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On 2/22/2024 at 7:39 PM, WAC_FAN said:

I thought it was a matter that the MWC technically did give the P2 a number, but it was like a million per sport and WCC was willing to do it for 80k a sport.

Adding an affiliate member to come in and potentially take your auto-bids (and then leave after a couple of years) is kind of a hard sell.  Especially if it might also increase travel costs.

That might have been the reason for the coaches and AD's to balk at the suggestion.  I don't know.  I do know that a deal was in the works and BB coaches put their foot down.  I don't know why.  However, my info comes straight from the mouth of our recently released AD.  Joe wasn't always the most dynamic guy in a discussion, but dishonesty isn't in his DNA.  He didn't make that up.  In fact getting inside info out of Joe Parker was like pulling teeth out of a hippo.  You just give up pretty quick.

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Yeah, well, no real winners in this mess, I'd wager that collegiate athletics is negatively impacted across the board because of monetary greed. 

No, I don't want the the former pac schools to go on to bigger and better things, so I'm biased. 

Im waiting for wsu and OSU to official fall off the power school list, and then in a few years they'll want to expand the list (which is what people wanted now) and somehow wsu and OSU won't be allowed in. 

Or probably just wsu, it is a karmic witch hunt after all.

Anyway, the mwc isn't even as bad a conference as america makes it out to be, it's east coast bias perhaps..but schools like Butler or wake arent like dream schools.. Wyoming ironically is, because it's a proper university.

What wsu/OSU want is to keep power status. Sports is central to wsu so stripping that is literally just a death knell. ?

In any case, the new mwc if it does turn out to be that, needs to position itself so as to secure as many bids in the post season tournaments as possible. 

The thinking is, that can be grandfathered in via the historic pac. The question of whether it'd be deserved seems moot, the mwc schools do qualify.

America is bored and is busy with its power trip. 

An idol mind is the devil's playground and I think America is losing that war. 

So what does it matter in the end?

Hope they had fun destroying a dream they didn't want because they were too afraid to actually let what's right happen. 

Go to Seattle and tell them wsu is irrelevant. Or Portland. It's not like they didn't help build all this..ie the thing you're reading this from. Trash schools though? What was the latest jump in tech and who greatly helped that along? And what else is a university for?

Garbage.

That's the problem when you are too humble. 

People take advantage of niceness, perceive it to be weakness. 

Have fun in spite.

 

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On 2/22/2024 at 1:12 PM, ---I GREEN INFECTION I--- said:

 

Stop avoiding my question.  Here goes again:

Q:  So which is it?  Is UNMC affiliated w/the entire UN system, or the entire UN system except for UNO?

 

 

 

Thus is a MWC Board!!!  WHY ARE YOU DISCUSSING NEBRASKA????

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