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On 2/22/2024 at 9:28 AM, SteedLaw said:

Good grief. 

I take a few months off checking these forums and we are STILL talking about the nonsense that is the PAC-2 poaching teams from the MWC.

For the billionth time, the money is not there nor is the incentive. 

Barring the PAC-2 getting an invite to the B1G 10 (good luck), there are no other options; either we all join them or they join us in the next 24 months...it is that simple, folks. 

And, to everyone still hoping for a "pie-in-the-sky" poaching scenario for their alleged elite school, let me just say this...be careful what you wish for.

Remember when the PAC-10 expanded and took Utah and Colorado over BYU...remember that? Indeed, be careful what you wish for since I am not convinced that the schools/teams allegedly at the top of the list to be poached by the PAC-2 would even be at the actual top of their list...just sayin. These are academics and college presidents making these decisions. So, you know, I would not be surprised if other factors than just prowess on the field or court came into play is all. 

But, again, even that is not worth discussing since it is not going to happen. We are either all joining them in a reverse merger or they are joining us. 

Dump SJSU entirely.

Make New Mexico basketball only

AFA- Football only

Add WSU and OSU in both sports - IF they think they can hang in basketball. It apppears they would rather play a bunch of WCC JV teams though.

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On 2/21/2024 at 9:23 AM, Billings said:

Nebraska is the number 8th ranked primary care medical school in the nation.  good grief

 

Wrong campus.  University of Neb-Medical School is part of the Univ of Neb-Omaha.

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-medical-schools/university-of-nebraska-medical-center-04063

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On 2/22/2024 at 1:05 PM, ---I GREEN INFECTION I--- said:

 

Wrong campus.  University of Neb-Medical School is part of the Univ of Neb-Omaha.

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-medical-schools/university-of-nebraska-medical-center-04063

no, its not.  It's located in Omaha but affiliated with the entire UN system, with UNL the flagship.  It has its own campus.  It's location is why UNL got crossways with the AAU.

It gives me a headache just trying to think down to your level

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On 2/21/2024 at 6:23 PM, jdgaucho said:

UCSD is a power house in multiple disciplines.  Very few schools in the world can compare.

About to win the Big West too

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On 2/22/2024 at 10:15 AM, RSF said:

no, its not.  It's located in Omaha but affiliated with the entire UN system, with UNL the flagship.  It's location is why UNL got crossways with the AAU.

 

Exactly.  The AAU called BS on UN-Lincoln's "affiliated w/the entire UN system" logic.

Five of the Univ of Calif campuses have Med Schools.  So, given your logic UCLA's Med School is "affiliated" with UC-San Francisco (a spin-off of Cal decades ago), UC-San Diego, UC-Irvine & UC-Riverside?  Sure it's affiliated (in the same system).  However, they are FIVE stand alone schools.

UCSF used to be part of Cal-Berkeley.  Now UCSF is it's own stand-alone campus in SF.  The UCSF campus is 3x closer to Berkeley (16-mi), than Omaha is to Lincoln (54-mi).

 

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On 2/22/2024 at 1:26 PM, ---I GREEN INFECTION I--- said:

 

Exactly.  The AAU called BS on UN-Lincoln's "affiliated w/the entire UN system" logic.

Five of the Univ of Calif campuses have Med Schools.  So, given your logic UCLA's Med School is "affiliated" with UCSF (a spin-off of Cal), UC-San Diego, UC-Irvine & UC-Riverside?

UCSF used to be part of Cal-Berkeley, yet now it's own stand-alone campus in SF.  Which is 3x closer to Berkeley, than Omaha is to Lincoln.

 

You're comparing a massive system like UC, to Nebraska.

 

 

 

well, ok then....

It gives me a headache just trying to think down to your level

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On 2/22/2024 at 1:37 PM, ---I GREEN INFECTION I--- said:

 

The AAU disagrees w/you as well.

 

 

They disagree about what?  That UC is massive?

 

 

again....well, ok, then....

It gives me a headache just trying to think down to your level

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On 2/20/2024 at 1:29 PM, utenation said:

I'm not sure this is a good thing. According to USN, UCF is ranked 73rd in overall engineering schools.  Schools like CU, NC State, Florida, Utah, ASU, Iowa State, Wichita State, Auburn, CSU, Oregon State, Houston, Tenn and Dayton all have much better Engineering rankings. 

UCF is ranked 50th in Aerospace. You see domination of the market(which is BS), I see 49 better schools to go to.. But we all know the US Government likes to give contracts to the lowest bidder, so I'm not surprised some average at best UCF grads pollute the market.  

Like with many things in this country, we should expect and demand better. But we all know it doesn't always work out that way. Sometimes bottom of the barrel rules the day.

Aerospace Engineering = Mechanical Engineering with lipstick

 

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On 2/22/2024 at 11:38 AM, Beaver-Poke said:

Utah brought far, far, far more to the Pac-12 table than BYU could have ever hoped to bring. Great football, competitive basketball, great gymnastics, decent volleyball and soccer programs. Their baseball program stinks but it somehow won a league title in 2016. 

Colorado was a Pac-12 flop. It never felt like Colorado was part of the conference to me because we (OSU) never played them in anything. They didn't play baseball, softball, men's soccer, wrestling, gymnastics ... all sports offered by OSU and many other Pac-12 schools. Did they ever win anything in the Pac-12, except for maybe a conference basketball tournament or two? Colorado was chosen because of its academics and the Denver TV market. 

I look forward to the uncertainty of OSU's longtime conference affiliation being resolved. I have no problem with a full OSU/WSU/MWC reverse merger under the older, more marketable and more recognizable Pac-14 brand. 

Agreed. I think a reverse merger under the PAC banner is the most likely scenario and the best option for all schools/teams moving forward. 

And, I have said it before, but the new "PAC-14" in that scenario would be head and shoulders above the American and Sun Belt in all relevant sports, including football; which means they would send at least their conference champion each year to the CFP under the new 5+7 model. 

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On 2/22/2024 at 10:03 AM, SDSUfan said:

Dump SJSU entirely.

Make New Mexico basketball only

AFA- Football only

Add WSU and OSU in both sports - IF they think they can hang in basketball. It apppears they would rather play a bunch of WCC JV teams though.

 

It was the Mtn West that took a pass on Wazzu & BeaverSt BB teams for 2024-'25 & 2025-'26.  The Pac-2 had no choice but to play w/the 'Zags, St Mary's + Friends.

 

If Pac-2 FB merges w/the MWC, our conf will accept their hoops teams.

FWIW...this yr, Wazzu would be competitive in hoops.  Los Beavs, not so much.

 

 

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On 2/22/2024 at 1:53 PM, ---I GREEN INFECTION I--- said:

 

Go ahead & play dumb.

It's you UNMC & UN-Lincoln vs The World on this one.

 

lol...all I said was that the medical school wasn't affiliated with UNO.

It gives me a headache just trying to think down to your level

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On 2/22/2024 at 10:15 AM, RSF said:

no, its not.  It's located in Omaha but affiliated with the entire UN system, with UNL the flagship.  It has its own campus.  It's location is why UNL got crossways with the AAU.

On 2/22/2024 at 10:56 AM, RSF said:

lol...all I said was that the medical school wasn't affiliated with UNO.

 

NO.  1st you said UNMC is "...affiliated w/the entire UN system."

Now you are trying to cherry pick, & saying "...the medical school isn't affiliated w/UNO."

 

Q:  So which is it?  Is UNMC affiliated w/the entire UN system, or the entire UN system except for UNO?

 

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On 2/22/2024 at 2:01 PM, ---I GREEN INFECTION I--- said:

 

NO.  1st you said UNMC is "...affiliated w/the entire UN system."

Now you are trying to cherry pick, & saying "...the medical school isn't affiliated w/UNO."

 

Q:  So which is it?  Is UNMC affiliated w/the entire UN system, or the entire UN system except for UNO?

 

not sure which part is confusing you.  try not to hurt yourself twisting yourself into knots....

It gives me a headache just trying to think down to your level

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On 2/22/2024 at 2:12 PM, ---I GREEN INFECTION I--- said:

 

Stop avoiding my question.  Here goes again:

Q:  So which is it?  Is UNMC affiliated w/the entire UN system, or the entire UN system except for UNO?

 

 

 

asked and answered.  System, not UNO.  Cant help it if you cant grasp that.

It gives me a headache just trying to think down to your level

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On 2/22/2024 at 11:50 AM, ---I GREEN INFECTION I--- said:

 

It was the Mtn West that took a pass on Wazzu & BeaverSt BB teams for 2024-'25 & 2025-'26.  The Pac-2 had no choice but to play w/the 'Zags, St Mary's + Friends.

 

If Pac-2 FB merges w/the MWC, our conf will accept their hoops teams.

FWIW...this yr, Wazzu would be competitive in hoops.  Los Beavs, not so much.

 

 

Is that true? I haven't seen it anywhere? 

I feel like taking their basketball and rest of their olympic sports would've been a good move. 

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