renoskier Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 On 1/12/2024 at 10:26 AM, RSF said: I have the same set up (RokuTV). getting to the app is easy, but clicking my way thru the various events in ESPN+ is cumbersome. Other than that, I like it. yeah...and that's true with every streaming service. I haven't had too much trouble using the espn+ tab at the top but yes, there can be a lot of cbb games on at the same time. What I wish they had was a tab which excludes the + because trying to find games on the secondary channels like 2, U, or News is a pain in the ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSF Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 On 1/12/2024 at 12:42 PM, renoskier said: I haven't had too much trouble using the espn+ tab at the top but yes, there can be a lot of cbb games on at the same time. What I wish they had was a tab which excludes the + because trying to find games on the secondary channels like 2, U, or News is a pain in the ass. I've always though assigning 'channel numbers' like in a cable/DTV program guide would work. So you could go to the TCU/Nevada basketball game o n 'ESPN+ Channel 35' quickly. But that would require somebody like Roku to produce a decent remote control. Quote It gives me a headache just trying to think down to your level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renoskier Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 On 1/12/2024 at 10:45 AM, RSF said: I've always though assigning 'channel numbers' like in a cable/DTV program guide would work. So you could go to the TCU/Nevada basketball game o n 'ESPN+ Channel 35' quickly. But that would require somebody like Roku to produce a decent remote control. ESPN could probably do that with a search function in the app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaztecs Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 On 1/12/2024 at 11:10 AM, AztecSU said: lol the only problem with CBSSN is the lack of information about viewership. Otherwise it actually has very good distribution and as RSF noted, navigating ESPN+ on anything but ESPN’s website or app is not ideal. I expect the integration with Hulu to improve with time but right now it’s FS1>CBSSN>ESPN+. Espn + is on Roku I have caught a number of Weber State games there. Quote "We don't have evidence but, we have lot's of theories." Americans Mayor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
415hawaiiboy Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 On 1/12/2024 at 10:18 AM, ShoichiKUN808 said: Ah yeah, if there is any chance that the MW is not fully absorbed into whatever conference it ends up, whoever is left in the MW will probably have a decent selection of teams that could be attracted to join with the possible levels of fee revenue from the bylaw exit fees/PAC-2 scheduling agreement in the MW coffers. Not to mention in court, the MWC could use the arguments of the PAC-2 against them. That they deserve all the penalties to rebuild. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
818SUDSFan Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 On 1/11/2024 at 8:23 PM, Headbutt said: My bad. I forgot to include the part where SDSU should go to the B1G. Better now? Riddle me this. Since CSU is generally considered to be one of the six most valuable members of the MWC and rumor has it OSU/WSU would want your school to join a Pac-8, why do you seem so adamant that the MWC remain intact? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSF Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 On 1/12/2024 at 12:10 PM, AztecSU said: lol the only problem with CBSSN is the lack of information about viewership. Otherwise it actually has very good distribution and as RSF noted, navigating ESPN+ on anything but ESPN’s website or app is not ideal. I expect the integration with Hulu to improve with time but right now it’s FS1>CBSSN>ESPN+. Not what I said. The ESPN+ app is on Roku. I have no idea about the ESPN website because I dont use a browser on my TV. And as I did say, navigation issues within the streaming app is true of all of them. An issue that will assuredly be corrected in time. Quote It gives me a headache just trying to think down to your level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
818SUDSFan Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 On 1/12/2024 at 10:01 AM, ShoichiKUN808 said: that's insanely high, if that is correct and there is at least 1 school not invited. ([$10-11m per school] * [# of MW schools invited]) + ([$16.6m/$33.2m, based on prior year MW revenue] * [# of MW schools invited]) Even if 1 school was invited to join the next season, that's $11m in penalties by the PAC12 + $33.2m in exit fees (total of $44.2m) by the MW school to exit the conference. Feel's like its either Indy for WSU/OSU, the ACC falls apart just in time for WSU/OSU, or the PAC12 becomes the "PACMW14"/PAC14 with that agreement in place. Thank you. None of the MWC presidents signed this new agreement and why would any school desirous of leaving the MW sign off on something which would increase their exit fee? That suggests to me that at least SDSU and Boise State (but probably also at least Fresno State) simply resigned themselves to accepting the decision of the majority to implement it. Because it's only for two years. And because it's a foregone conclusion that the ACC COULD fall apart not long thereafter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawaiiMongoose Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 On 1/12/2024 at 8:04 AM, wolf from 73 said: There is also a 5.5 million penalty on top of that for not inviting all 12 conference teams. I believe it's correct because it was reported after and interview with Gloria Nevarez yesterday. Nah, I think this reporter is confused too. The agreement language reads pretty clearly that the $5.5 million penalty specifically applies if OSU or WSU leaves the Pac to join another conference that isn't one of the Power 4 and isn't the MWC. The agreement even labels it a "departure fee" and distinguishes it from the "withdrawal fee" that the Pac would owe to the MWC for poaching any of its members. At least the final line of this article also reports the correct interpretation. But one way or another, it doesn't really matter. The important message is that the MWC's exit fees are still in full force and effect, and would apply in addition to the substantial new penalties that the Pac would have to pay for taking schools from the MWC. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawaiiMongoose Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 On 1/12/2024 at 9:10 AM, RSF said: Not what I said. The ESPN+ app is on Roku. I have no idea about the ESPN website because I dont use a browser on my TV. And as I did say, navigation issues within the streaming app is true of all of them. An issue that will assuredly be corrected in time. ESPN+ is on the ESPN website as well, but accessing the app on your big-screen TV through Roku is faster and easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headbutt Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 On 1/12/2024 at 12:07 PM, 818SUDSFan said: Riddle me this. Since CSU is generally considered to be one of the six most valuable members of the MWC and rumor has it OSU/WSU would want your school to join a Pac-8, why do you seem so adamant that the MWC remain intact? Mostly because I think a Pac-8 or 10 or whatever is fools gold, and I don't want to pay $17 million for a sideways move. 16 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecSU Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 On 1/12/2024 at 11:10 AM, RSF said: Not what I said. The ESPN+ app is on Roku. I have no idea about the ESPN website because I dont use a browser on my TV. And as I did say, navigation issues within the streaming app is true of all of them. An issue that will assuredly be corrected in time. Sorry. I tend to focus on Hulu because it’s the largest cable like steamer. The ones with more subscribers tend to be more exclusive or don’t do live tv. So I tend to view Hulu as a bell weather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
818SUDSFan Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 On 1/12/2024 at 12:44 PM, Headbutt said: Mostly because I think a Pac-8 or 10 or whatever is fools gold, and I don't want to pay $17 million for a sideways move. Fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf from 73 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 According to Murray the average conference distribution check for 2023 will be about 7 million. How both of the Mountain West's commissioners paved the way to keep the conference intact https://nevadasportsnet.com/newsletter-daily/how-both-of-the-mountain-wests-commissioners-paved-the-way-to-keep-the-conference-intact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headbutt Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 On 1/12/2024 at 7:52 PM, wolf from 73 said: According to Murray the average conference distribution check for 2023 will be about 7 million. How both of the Mountain West's commissioners paved the way to keep the conference intact https://nevadasportsnet.com/newsletter-daily/how-both-of-the-mountain-wests-commissioners-paved-the-way-to-keep-the-conference-intact Hmmm, I wouldn't have expected it to be that high. I would have guessed just shy of $6 million with the only real bump coming after the next media contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelado Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 On 1/12/2024 at 7:17 AM, RSF said: currently, yes. Much better. lot more available viewers. And, if you think people bitch about trying to find some random channel, try navigating ESPN+ to find something on any Saturday. It's the biggest issue I have with it. Streaming is the future. But the future isnt here yet. For college sports, streaming right now is the place games get dumped when there's no space anywhere else, and the interest to match. A school like North Texas is emblematic of that reality. On 1/12/2024 at 11:26 AM, RSF said: I have the same set up (RokuTV). getting to the app is easy, but clicking my way thru the various events in ESPN+ is cumbersome. Other than that, I like it. yeah...and that's true with every streaming service. Browsing for an event on ESPN's Roku app is pointless. I just do a search for one of the teams and then scroll down to "Replays" since I'm rarely watching the live feed. On 1/12/2024 at 1:54 PM, AztecSU said: Sorry. I tend to focus on Hulu because it’s the largest cable like steamer. The ones with more subscribers tend to be more exclusive or don’t do live tv. So I tend to view Hulu as a bell weather. YouTube TV is reported as having eclipsed the Hulu Live TV subscriber base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Did I hear a WOOSH? Posted January 16 Author Share Posted January 16 On 1/12/2024 at 2:07 PM, 818SUDSFan said: Riddle me this. Since CSU is generally considered to be one of the six most valuable members of the MWC and rumor has it OSU/WSU would want your school to join a Pac-8, why do you seem so adamant that the MWC remain intact? What other options exist? The PAC is dead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Did I hear a WOOSH? Posted January 16 Author Share Posted January 16 I don’t fully understand the hate for Roku, it’s got everything you need on it. The remote is kinda rudimentary but really all it needs is maybe a point and click function. You can also download the app on your phone and use that as a remote, which isn’t terrible. I’ve never used Hulu live or YouTube live. I think espn+ is fine. Honestly it feels saddled with too many replays/highlights if anything to me. If it could let you create your own folders that would be great. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utenation Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 On 1/16/2024 at 5:26 AM, Did I hear a WOOSH? said: I think espn+ is fine. Honestly it feels saddled with too many replays/highlights if anything to me. If it could let you create your own folders that would be great. The big question for me is, how many of UCF's games will be on ESPN+ this year? 8? 9? When you play real teams, I'm guessing you'll get a few games on ESPN 1 or 2 and Fox. After your absolutely embarrassing TV ratings for 2023, combined with a terrible product on the field, I'm guessing no network is lining up to broadcast UCF games in 2024. The B12 legal team must be going crazy reviewing the wording of the expansion contract adding the 3 turds from the AAC and BYU. Trying to find a loop hole to send these schools back to the AAC and Indy. 4 schools with losing records in the B12. Yikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
818SUDSFan Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 On 1/16/2024 at 11:08 AM, utenation said: The big question for me is, how many of UCF's games will be on ESPN+ this year? 8? 9? When you play real teams, I'm guessing you'll get a few games on ESPN 1 or 2 and Fox. After your absolutely embarrassing TV ratings for 2023, combined with a terrible product on the field, I'm guessing no network is lining up to broadcast UCF games in 2024. You're underestimating UCF. After all, they did win a national championship. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
