East Coast Aztec Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Yormark getting booed and having to award the title to Texas as they chant "SEC, SEC..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyobraska Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 On 12/2/2023 at 1:28 PM, utenation said: I don’t have Bama in any of my scenarios. I hope they get stuffed by UGA. I was just pointing out, teams without a conference title with the same record as other 1 loss teams have made the playoff. Not sure what to think of FSU/UL tonight. FSU is hobbled and I think Louisville is a bit overrated this year and coming off a loss to 5 loss Kentucky at home. There wasn't another 1 loss team with a conference title. 1. Alabama (12-1) 2. Michigan (12-1) 3. Georgia (12-1) 4. Cincinnati (13-0) 5. Notre Dame (11-1) 6. Ohio State (10-2) 7. Baylor (11-2) 8. Ole Miss (10-2) 9. Oklahoma State (11-2) 10. Michigan State (10-2) 11. Utah (10-3) 12. Pittsburgh (11-2) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utenation Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 On 12/2/2023 at 1:48 PM, Wyobraska said: There wasn't another 1 loss team with a conference title. 1. Alabama (12-1) 2. Michigan (12-1) 3. Georgia (12-1) 4. Cincinnati (13-0) 5. Notre Dame (11-1) 6. Ohio State (10-2) 7. Baylor (11-2) 8. Ole Miss (10-2) 9. Oklahoma State (11-2) 10. Michigan State (10-2) 11. Utah (10-3) 12. Pittsburgh (11-2) Earlier you said this: “It would be criminal to put in teams with the same record that didn't win conference titles and I don't think they would” UGA was not a conference champ in 2021. Alabama was the SEC champ that year. Both had 1 loss before playoff selection. Both made it to the playoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyobraska Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 On 12/2/2023 at 2:18 PM, utenation said: Earlier you said this: “It would be criminal to put in teams with the same record that didn't win conference titles and I don't think they would” UGA was not a conference champ in 2021. Alabama was the SEC champ that year. Both had 1 loss before playoff selection. Both made it to the playoff. Because there wasn't another 1 loss conference champ to jump Georgia. 2021 isn't an apt comparison to this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzyOzz Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 On 12/2/2023 at 11:42 AM, RSF said: No. Well cfp12 with 1+ bids is fine too, what is the new distribution? Top 5 (SEC/BIG10/BIG12/ACC/AAC) each get 1 bid, Pac 2 still need a road to the playoffs, 6 more spots for the next best top 6 as per the cfb rankings or +1 for 5+7? Does that mean the pac 2 would have to finish in the top 12/13/14 in the national rankings to have a chance at the cfp under the pac banner? Or are they being punished for something, to not have any shot at the cfp at all? They need to explain the distribution and whether the pac 2 ex 12 can qualify for the playoffs with the right cfb rankings.. Just a clarification, and then also what financial impact having NCAA board power and cfb board power has or will have... And then, if MWC is to be ranked as top 6 or a MWC team has to be ranked in the top 12/13/14/15 to have a shot at the playoffs.. It's all rather unclear to me at least.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utenation Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 On 12/2/2023 at 2:29 PM, Wyobraska said: Because there wasn't another 1 loss conference champ to jump Georgia. 2021 isn't an apt comparison to this year. Let’s see if they stick with their guns. My gut tells me Texas doesn’t get in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterfrog Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 On 12/2/2023 at 3:35 PM, utenation said: Let’s see if they stick with their guns. My gut tells me Texas doesn’t get it. I don’t think Alabama will win, but I would sure like to see what they would do if Alabama, Georgia and Texas are all sitting at 12-1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utenation Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 On 12/2/2023 at 2:38 PM, masterfrog said: I don’t think Alabama will win, but I would sure like to see what they would do if Alabama, Georgia and Texas are all sitting at 12-1. That would be crazy. Bama would have the best win in title games but Texas beat Bama. And do you drop a team that has won 29 straight games(UGA) out of the top 4? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterfrog Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 On 12/2/2023 at 3:42 PM, utenation said: That would be crazy. Bama would have the best win in title games but Texas beat Bama. And do you drop a team that has won 29 straight games(UGA) out of the top 4? My hunch is they would take two and leave Florida State out, but which two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSF Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 On 12/2/2023 at 2:45 PM, masterfrog said: There has been a lot of talk on national sports radio about Florida State. Many are saying they shouldn’t be in the playoff even if they beat Louisville. As one commentator pointed out, “This is why we went to a committee instead of using computers.” FSU doesn’t pass the eye test versus any of the other top 10 teams. National sports radio... Quote It gives me a headache just trying to think down to your level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterfrog Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 On 12/2/2023 at 3:49 PM, RSF said: National sports radio... Urban Meyer just said Texas should be in over Florida State too. Since he is the type of guy that they have on the committee, he may be on to something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utenation Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 On 12/2/2023 at 2:45 PM, masterfrog said: My hunch is they would take two and leave Florida State out, but which two? Bama/UGA tight so far. Bama driving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzyOzz Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 In a 5+7 model, if the MWC+PAC2 does not get ranked higher than the SEC, BIG10, Big12, the ACC, and the AAC..any MWC team will have to be ranked in the top 12 to have a shot at the playoffs..as, the top 6 will obviously be ranked in the top 12.. It means teams that include any MWC any sun belt any other so called non P5 team will never have a realistic shot at the playoffs.. So teams like OSU, Hawaii, UNLV.. Lol that is what they are doing.. And an expanded playoffs means more inclusivity, not less. Is that in question? I mean the Pac2+MWC is close with the AAC..is that the fallout? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Coast Aztec Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 On 12/2/2023 at 1:45 PM, masterfrog said: My hunch is they would take two and leave Florida State out, but which two? You would not leave out the ACC champ that is undefeated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterfrog Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 On 12/2/2023 at 4:11 PM, East Coast Aztec said: You would not leave out the ACC champ that is undefeated. Is the goal to have the four best teams or the four most deserving teams? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utenation Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 On 12/2/2023 at 3:14 PM, masterfrog said: Is the goal to have the four best teams or the four most deserving teams? To @Wyobraska’s point. Conference Champs, especially in a P5 matter. Last week FSU looked terrible to a bad Florida team. Barely won and didn’t move out of 4th place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyobraska Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 On 12/2/2023 at 3:34 PM, utenation said: To @Wyobraska’s point. Conference Champs, especially in a P5 matter. Last week FSU looked terrible to a bad Florida team. Barely won and didn’t move out of 4th place. If UGA keeps playing this way it looks like we are about to find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utenation Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 On 12/2/2023 at 3:56 PM, Wyobraska said: If UGA keeps playing this way it looks like we are about to find out. I was missing your point earlier. I didn’t bother to look at the records of the next conference champ. ND was 11-1, but no conference title. 1 loss was the key. I think eye test is looked at but conference title weighs more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterfrog Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 A playoff with no SEC teams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSF Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 I think Georgia could stay in with a loss. There is recent historical precedence for it. Quote It gives me a headache just trying to think down to your level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...