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On 12/1/2023 at 4:46 PM, UNLV2001 said:
 

COLORADO SPRINGS, Co. – The Mountain West Conference announced today a football scheduling agreement for the 2024 season between the Mountain West, Oregon State University, Washington State University, and the Pac-12 Conference.

Next season, all 12 MW teams will play seven traditional Conference football games in addition to one contest against either Washington State or Oregon State for a total of eight games (four home and four away). The games against OSU and WSU will not count toward the conference standings, and neither Pac-12 school is eligible for the MW championship game. The Mountain West is currently working on the football schedule and will release matchups soon.

“This is a unique and unprecedented opportunity for Oregon State and Washington State to play against highly competitive Mountain West football programs in 2024,” said MW Commissioner Gloria Nevarez. “The scheduling agreement will expand the Mountain West footprint and enhance our national brand, while providing our student-athletes with new opportunities, all in line with our strategic priorities. The scheduling agreement strengthens the league’s non-conference schedules, and we look forward to having Oregon State and Washington State be a part of the 2024 slate.”

SUDS, Sparty, amd Boise already have games scheduled against the Pac2. Are they going to drop a conference tilt to get to seven ?  Suds already dropped Portland State in hopes of getting a second game matchup.

 

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On 12/1/2023 at 6:26 PM, renoskier said:
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that's not true or possible

without the conference making the schedule, how would any MWC teams have fit games into October and November? maybe they could have squeezed in a game or two on bye weeks but even those couldn't be scheduled until the conference schedule was finalized

The MW schedules around the Air Force. It wouldn't be hard to schedule Conference games in September. The B1G plays them week one.

Besides, that is not relevant for 2024. Everyone gets a game and a check.

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Wow. The B12 really fell off the map this year.  SEC bound Texas is good but beating an average at best 18th ranked OSU team won’t be enough to get into the playoff unless some type of miracle happens. 
 

OSU needed double OT to beat a bad BYU team in Stillwater.  OSU also got blown out by a bad UCF team. Not to mention another home blowout to 6-6 Sun Belt cupcake South Alabama.

All 4 of the new B12 schools really brought the conference down. 
 

Oklahoma isn’t bad but couldn’t get to the title game.  But at least we don’t have to watch OU get blown out in the playoffs again. 

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On 12/1/2023 at 6:25 PM, Nevada Convert said:

You have to understand that Rebel Robert hasn’t been right at predicting anything in the many many years he’s been here. And that’s not smack or an exaggeration. 

He has been predicting the success of this football program season for years. It’s amazing he could predict a MWC championship bid over a decade ago. 

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Cal and Stanford out there in the ACC are in a weird position, they lose in all this. 

UW+UO+USC+UCLA are also lost, I don't know what will happen to them in the long run. I'm guessing they won't be happy in the short term..

Arizona schools will be fine

The MWC+Pac will win depending on how successful they are in the playoffs I think..

Hawaii

Washington State

Oregon State

Cal State

(Fresno/SD/SJ)

Wyoming

UNLV

Nevada

Utah State

New Mexico State

Colorado State

AirForce

Boise

With 2 cfp teams each year is good, 

Compared to what will happen at other schools like UW, Oregon etc. USC and UCLA had their plan but I doubt it will work well, no one wants to be going to Seattle and Nowhere, Oregon out of nowhere, when the weather is bad, on a plane..even LA is too far for lots of them

..Arizona schools will be fine..idk..Stanford and Cal will be lost too..

I smell a natty coming soon right here lol, that's the a new problem for us, not them lol

Hopefully the MWC+Pac2 release the details of their 2024 schedule and finish their travel? plans so others with related interests can start planning around that..

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On 12/2/2023 at 9:56 AM, utenation said:

Wow. The B12 really fell off the map this year.  SEC bound Texas is good but beating an average at best 18th ranked OSU team won’t be enough to get into the playoff unless some type of miracle happens. 
 

OSU needed double OT to beat a bad BYU team in Stillwater.  OSU also got blown out by a bad UCF team. Not to mention another home blowout to 6-6 Sun Belt cupcake South Alabama.

All 4 of the new B12 schools really brought the conference down. 
 

Oklahoma isn’t bad but couldn’t get to the title game.  But at least we don’t have to watch OU get blown out in the playoffs again. 

If Michigan, Georgia, and Louisville wins, do you think UT gets in?

Washington

Michigan

Georgia

Texas

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On 12/2/2023 at 11:37 AM, Wyobraska said:

If Michigan, Georgia, and Louisville wins, do you think UT gets in?

Washington

Michigan

Georgia

Texas

The question would then be 1 loss Ohio State and 1 loss FSU.  If they value conference titles as much as they claim, maybe.  Also, I think a little depends on if Bama gets blown out or not. How do they view the B12 being an average conference this year and OSU getting blown out right now?
 

Even though Oregon has 2 losses, I still think they are better than the 6-8 teams right now. But that loss did them in.  2 losses to the #3 team by a total of 6 points, one on the road. 

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On 12/2/2023 at 11:47 AM, utenation said:

The question would then be 1 loss Ohio State and 1 loss FSU.  If they value conference titles as much as they claim, maybe.  Also, I think a little depends on if Bama gets blown out or not. How do they view the B12 being an average conference this year and OSU getting blown out right now?
 

Even though Oregon has 2 losses, I still think they are better than the 6-8 teams right now. But that loss did them in.  2 losses to the #3 team by a total of 6 points, one on the road. 

It would be criminal to put in teams with the same record that didn't win conference titles and I don't think they would.  I get not all records are created equal, but there isn't a perfect system. 

You can't put in a 2 loss Bama over a one loss conference champion either.  

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Isn't the ex pac 12 eligible for cfp consideration based on rankings alone in 2024? 

And the MWC is also eligible..

So, perhaps that bid is reduced to a half bid, as long as the MWC retains its full bid and wsu/OSU are eligible in rankings, and then eventually the mountain pac ? gets 1.5 bids..

There are 12 bids next year. People want them. That's their job..

Will sec, acc, big 10, big 12, aac each get 2 spots each? No..so what's the ratio? 

Sec-2/2.5/2.5/2.5/3?

Big10-2/2/2/2.5

Big12-2/2/2/2

Acc-2/1.5/2/2

Mwc-1.5/1.5/1.5/1.5

Aac-1.5/1.5/1.5/1

Best of rest-1/1/0.5/0.5

They'll make their decisions as usual...

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On 12/2/2023 at 12:08 PM, Wyobraska said:

It would be criminal to put in teams with the same record that didn't win conference titles and I don't think they would.  I get not all records are created equal, but there isn't a perfect system. 

You can't put in a 2 loss Bama over a one loss conference champion either.  

The SEC has put 2 teams in, one with out a conference title right? Bama/UGA 2021. Both had 1 loss going into selection. 

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On 12/2/2023 at 11:47 AM, utenation said:

The question would then be 1 loss Ohio State and 1 loss FSU.  If they value conference titles as much as they claim, maybe.  Also, I think a little depends on if Bama gets blown out or not. How do they view the B12 being an average conference this year and OSU getting blown out right now?
 

Even though Oregon has 2 losses, I still think they are better than the 6-8 teams right now. But that loss did them in.  2 losses to the #3 team by a total of 6 points, one on the road. 

I think FSU, rumored to be down to its 3rd string QB won't be beating Louisville. A recent loss plus not having their best player who was a huge part of their undefeated season so far will probably influence them being left out.

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On 12/2/2023 at 12:22 PM, utenation said:

The SEC has put 2 teams in, one with out a conference title right? Bama/UGA 2021. Both had 1 loss going into selection. 

UT beat Bama in Bama.  I would think that plus a conference title should put them in over Georgia if Bama beats Georgia. 

If Bama loses, they don't get in with 2 losses.

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On 12/2/2023 at 2:17 PM, Wyobraska said:

UT beat Bama in Bama.  I would think that plus a conference title should put them in over Georgia if Bama beats Georgia. 

If Bama loses, they don't get in with 2 losses.

Yeah...Bama needs to win AND get help.  UW helped.  UT didnt.

It gives me a headache just trying to think down to your level

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On 12/2/2023 at 1:17 PM, Wyobraska said:

UT beat Bama in Bama.  I would think that plus a conference title should put them in over Georgia if Bama beats Georgia. 

If Bama loses, they don't get in with 2 losses.

I'm thinking Georgia wins and with Texas dominating in the Big12 Championship we will have the following CFP:

1. Georgia

2. Michigan

3. Washington

4. Texas

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On 12/2/2023 at 1:17 PM, Wyobraska said:

UT beat Bama in Bama.  I would think that plus a conference title should put them in over Georgia if Bama beats Georgia. 

If Bama loses, they don't get in with 2 losses.

I don’t have Bama in any of my scenarios. I hope they get stuffed by UGA. 
 

I was just pointing out, teams without a conference title with the same record as other 1 loss teams have made the playoff.

 

Not sure what to think of FSU/UL tonight.  FSU is hobbled and I think Louisville is a bit overrated this year and coming off a loss to 5 loss Kentucky at home. 

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On 12/2/2023 at 2:27 PM, utgrizfan said:

I'm thinking Georgia wins and with Texas dominating in the Big12 Championship we will have the following CFP:

1. Georgia

2. Michigan

3. Washington

4. Texas

Texas ain't passing FSU unless FSU loses.

It gives me a headache just trying to think down to your level

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On 12/2/2023 at 2:29 PM, RSF said:

Texas ain't passing FSU unless FSU loses.

There has been a lot of talk on national sports radio about Florida State. Many are saying they shouldn’t be in the playoff even if they beat Louisville. As one commentator pointed out, “This is why we went to a committee instead of using computers.”  FSU doesn’t pass the eye test versus any of the other top 10 teams. 

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