ShoichiKUN808 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 4:56 PM, Someone Else said: For clarification purposes you are saying the current MWC which is getting in the neighborhood of 6 mil per school will now be getting 14 mil per school just by adding OSU/WSU... or am I misunderstanding your post? If you are saying 14 mil per school where are you seeing that? In my opinion that would be astounding. The $14m was referenced in the Dellenger article. But it sounds like WSU/OSU are paying a total of $14m to the MW for the scheduling agreement with the MW. So if it’s evenly distributed to members would be $14m divided by 12 members which is about $1.17m per member increase for 2024. Not anything regarding a $14m per member amount. Quote The remaining two members of the Pac-12 and the Mountain West are finalizing the long-talked about partnership with an announcement planned in the coming days. The agreement, for now just one season, is expected to include a fee of about $14 million paid to the Mountain West. The alliance is built around what’s termed a “7+1” format where Mountain West teams play seven conference games — not eight — plus one game against either Washington State or Oregon State. There is an option to extend the deal to the 2025 season as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone Else Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 1 minute ago, ShoichiKUN808 said: The $14m was referenced in the Dellinger article. But it sounds like WSU/OSU are paying a total of $14m to the MW for the scheduling agreement with the MW. Not anything regarding a $14m per member amount. Got it. Thanks for clarifying. Makes much more sense than what I thought he was saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebelRobert Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 UNLV and a select few others will announce (by end of June 2024) we are leaving the MWC as of July 1, 2026. We will be joining the PAC-12. Thanks for giving Oregon St. and Washington St. a place to play for the next two years. Hope you have a plan in place for after we are gone. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billings Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 6:50 PM, Headbutt said: Well, for now, CBS and FOX are thinking that the addition of WSU/OSU to our schedule is worth $14 million for one year's worth of FB games, BB not considered yet. According to media reports of course. I'd call that an indicator that they could participate in changing our fortunes. Yeah, we'll still be G5, but it is starting to look like a wealthier G5. Yea I think OSU/WSU are paying that, not media Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecSU Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 6:50 PM, Headbutt said: Well, for now, CBS and FOX are thinking that the addition of WSU/OSU to our schedule is worth $14 million for one year's worth of FB games, BB not considered yet. According to media reports of course. I'd call that an indicator that they could participate in changing our fortunes. Yeah, we'll still be G5, but it is starting to look like a wealthier G5. I should chosen my words more wisely. I meant the football outlook for the MW. I agree that adding the PAC2 would certainly improve media contract value. Not massively, but at our scale every dollar helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Admirer from the East Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 10:08 PM, RebelRobert said: UNLV and a select few others will announce (by end of June 2024) we are leaving the MWC as of July 1, 2026. We will be joining the PAC-12. Thanks for giving Oregon St. and Washington St. a place to play for the next two years. Hope you have a plan in place for after we are gone. Your scenario may happen. They definitely get a lifeline for 2024. The article says there is an option to extend to 2025....not guaranteed. Will be interesting to see how it plays out! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headbutt Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 8:12 PM, Billings said: Yea I think OSU/WSU are paying that, not media I'll go back and read it but I think the media partners are ponying that up and WSU/OSU are now working on their own media deal. The Pac $$ seem to be still tied up in appeals court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headbutt Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 8:59 PM, Headbutt said: I'll go back and read it but I think the media partners are ponying that up and WSU/OSU are now working on their own media deal. The Pac $$ seem to be still tied up in appeals court. Well, after reading it again, you may be right @Billings. It does say fee instead of payout. That doesn't change the money, but it does change the source. Interesting if they're buying this deal instead of having the media pay for it. Still good money for the MWC, but reeks a little of desperation since the Pac money is tied up in appeals court. They'll win that but seem to be spending money based on accounts receivable instead of cash on hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HR_Poke Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 10:08 PM, RebelRobert said: UNLV and a select few others will announce (by end of June 2024) we are leaving the MWC as of July 1, 2026. We will be joining the PAC-12. Thanks for giving Oregon St. and Washington St. a place to play for the next two years. Hope you have a plan in place for after we are gone. 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utgrizfan Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 8:08 PM, RebelRobert said: UNLV and a select few others will announce (by end of June 2024) we are leaving the MWC as of July 1, 2026. We will be joining the PAC-12. Thanks for giving Oregon St. and Washington St. a place to play for the next two years. Hope you have a plan in place for after we are gone. They'd have 4-6 easy backfill options in NMSU, UTEP, Montana, MSU, Sac State and UC-Davis so the MWC should be fine. Granted still feel a full merger is the most likely scenario. 1 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
818SUDSFan Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 3:28 PM, Headbutt said: Well, the schools that don't, don't because they're cash strapped. An extra $1 million+ can buy a vote if you're broke. I don't doubt it since that has always been the case with them and if you're trying to build a solid conference, the past is prologue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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utgrizfan Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 On 12/1/2023 at 10:17 AM, jdgaucho said: I'm wondering if the MWC will return to 8 Conference games for the 2025 season which is why this is only for 1 year. They definitely have time to move a few games around in that case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Spaztecs Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 11:31 AM, ripple effect said: Details. Lots to chew on here... https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-oregon-state-washington-state-finalizing-scheduling-alliance-with-mountain-west-conference-180632163.html Some snippets... The remaining two members of the Pac-12 and the Mountain West are finalizing the long-talked about partnership with an announcement planned in the coming days. The agreement, for now just one season, is expected to include a fee of about $14 million paid to the Mountain West. The alliance is built around what’s termed a “7+1” format where Mountain West teams play seven conference games — not eight — plus one game against either Washington State or Oregon State. There is an option to extend the deal to the 2025 season as well. As for broadcasting rights, Mountain West home games against OSU and WSU will be televised in regular fashion by MWC TV partners Fox and CBS Sports Network. The league will keep the additional media rights revenue from those games to be distributed across the conference. Oregon State and Washington State are likely to negotiate separate broadcasting agreements with those networks and potentially others to televise their own home games. The Pac-12’s TV deal with ESPN and Fox ends after this academic year. For now, the scheduling alliance is football only. The two entities continue to explore a similar scheduling agreement for men’s and women’s basketball, though an agreement is likely weeks away. Oregon State and Washington State are in discussions with other leagues to create affiliate memberships for their other sports. Reality is finally sinking in for these two. Sadly this is the equivelant of being down two scores in the 4th quarter and taking a fg because it is 4th and goal from the 25. Quote "We don't have evidence but, we have lot's of theories." Americans Mayor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaztecs Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 12:37 PM, utenation said: If the 2 are going to have control over future assets, which seems like a healthy number, 1 million per MWC team is low ball. So with the no penalty for cherry picking and this: “While there is not expected to be a contractual requirement for a long-term merger between the two entities, there is an intent and understanding of full-time membership for OSU and WSU in the Mountain West or a merger” It doesn’t seem like very firm footing for the MWC. Intent and handshakes don’t mean shit in this business. Some MW squads will get the benefit of a home game against them. It should provide a one time attendance bump. I have no doubt they do not want to play roadies in some of the less desirable MW stadiums. Quote "We don't have evidence but, we have lot's of theories." Americans Mayor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaztecs Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 2:13 PM, utenation said: Yep. You guys just got bent over a barrel. This is why everything about realignment sucks to me. Nope. Glo got the best deal she could. If she refused, the Pac Boys would simply schedule their chosen MW Schools without the $14 mil payoff. The bottom end of the Conference would have received zippo. There is also a mens and womens basketball scheduling agreement coming in the next few weeks. Without payouts. Better to a have a Pac2 squad on your schedule than a quad 3 or 4 game agianst a directional School. 2 Quote "We don't have evidence but, we have lot's of theories." Americans Mayor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaztecs Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 2:25 PM, An Admirer from the East said: Gloria was feeling heat from within, guaranteed! The top tier of the MWC, six or 7 most likely to be invited to the PAC by a raid, BSU, Fresno, UNLV et al could have done indv scheduling alliances apart from the conference. They'd cancel a non-conf game(s) to schedule with OSU and/or WSU. Im sure she factored that in. How would it look if she was undercut by some of her own university members? She basically kicked the can down the field for a year or two and kept her league looking united for now. There also is a mems and womens basketball scheduling agreement coming. She could have lost that as well. Quote "We don't have evidence but, we have lot's of theories." Americans Mayor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaztecs Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 2:50 PM, An Admirer from the East said: what makes you think the conference is really united behind the curtain???? Maybe the top tier wants to leave CSU, UNM, USU, UH SJSU in the dust. Im telling you Gloria didnt have as much leverage as you think. She got a fig leaf agreement that we wont raid you down the road lol. The upper and lower tiers of the conference can live with this. The so called lower end Schools, while probably not getting a game, will at least get a $1.2 mil. check. It helps the AD budget. It may not be P5 money, bit it helps. 1 Quote "We don't have evidence but, we have lot's of theories." Americans Mayor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaztecs Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 7:22 PM, OzzyOzz said: Who knows how the march madness tournament will be changed by all this. I can only speculate if it is my place to do so? In any case, from my pov, taking advantage of rail efficiencies is the easy solution to many budgetary concerns..if there are any. And tv rights is a mess I don't know much about.. I mean, the Pac2 can sell rights to its media, but who buys? Perhaps just the 2..I mean, I don't understand the question and it has to do with viewership rankings.. Each school must obviously be entitled to their own history and media likeness and archives.. My guess is they either take an ESPN+ deal, internet platform, or local tv station. There isn't that much interest in the Pac2 beyond their region. Quote "We don't have evidence but, we have lot's of theories." Americans Mayor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...