Lobo Amor Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 hour ago, RSF said: So Plan C is...gut CUSA. North Texas, Rice, UTSA, UAB, Florida Atlantic and Charlotte. Reeks of desperation. Which is what it is. The AAC should just call themselves C-USA pretty much all their schools are from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utgrizfan Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I think if the MWC offered 2 schools (UNT, UTSA) they'd have a real good shot at snagging them out from under the AAC. Again don't see the issue adding them as both bring upside, UTSA brings eyeballs potentially and BSU, AF and CSU get what they want. BSU move to the Western Division and the Colorado schools get some central exposure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSF Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, tenbobnote said: In other words: let's deflect because I don't have a good answer. Like I said though, It'll be good for the MW in the long run The AAC just passed over some better brands to get Texas in attempts to screw the MWC in a land grab. That's what just happened. If NDSU is the answer, the question is 'who has a widely overinflated sense of themselves?' IOW...not really. Standing pat has always been the MWC's best move. And the AAC helped out. Thats what just happened. Quote In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idkk Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 59 minutes ago, TGIFaanes said: AAC Board is not taking this well. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brew_Poke Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 32 minutes ago, tenbobnote said: Marching to the MAC to replace whoever goes to C-USA or what? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsu_alum9 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Professorbum said: There are plenty on this board that promoted adding UTSA, UNT, and/or Rice. Markets were usually the chief reason cited. The folly of chasing TV markets isn't the exclusive province of Aresco. True. But only have to look at San Jose to realize market size doesn’t really matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idkk Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 So, Aresco is going to have to dip into the exit fee funds to make this work, right? To make up the lost revenue. What happens when that well runs dry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professorbum Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Brew_Poke said: Marching to the MAC to replace whoever goes to C-USA or what? The AAC's move is not good for the AAC (so it is inexplicable) and it is also not good for NDSU. I agree...the MWC (where I wish we'd land) has little incentive to add right now. NDSU needs to go to CUSA with hat in hand and making the case that we can help strengthen the conference in both football and basketball. We'd be an instant rival with JMU if they are brought into the fold as well. I think there's a case to be made. I hope we are doing so (but I doubt it). Quote I don't care what Jim says. That is not the real Ben Franklin. I'm 99% certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoiseStateOfMind Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Wichita State must be furious about this. The AAC is one of the worst leagues in college hoops now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utgrizfan Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, bsu_alum9 said: True. But only have to look at San Jose to realize market size doesn’t really matter. I think there is potential for UTSA, was down there for over a year for military training and alot of people loved the Road Runners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoiseStateOfMind Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, Professorbum said: The AAC's move is not good for the AAC (so it is inexplicable) and it is also not good for NDSU. I agree...the MWC (where I wish we'd land) has little incentive to add right now. NDSU needs to go to CUSA with hat in hand and making the case that we can help strengthen the conference in both football and basketball. We'd be an instant rival with JMU if they are brought into the fold as well. I think there's a case to be made. I hope we are doing so (but I doubt it). NDSU should be content with being the Alabama of the FCS. And I don't mean that as an insult, I just really don't see FBS football working in Fargo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyobraska Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 So what happens to the rest of CUSA? Back to FCS? Beg the Sun Belt for a life line? Try to make it as an independent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvspuds Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, RSF said: If NDSU is the answer, the question is 'who has a widely overinflated sense of themselves?' IOW...not really. Standing pat has always been the MWC's best move. And the AAC helped out. Thats what just happened. 18 minutes ago, tenbobnote said: There's pressure to have them expand. It's defensive. They're likely going to have teams leave in the next couple years. Craig Thomson and at least the CSU AD have publicly said as much in the last week or so. They just thought they had more time. https://www.ktik.com/2021/10/15/craig-thompson-mountain-west-commissioner-on-expansion-cfp-and-gonzaga-basketball/ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/athletic-director-joe-parker-joins-to-talk-about-the/id1509883324?i=1000537540349 By far the most successful version of the MW had 9 schools. The league started with 8 and did very well. If and when schools leave it is far more likely the conference will go back to a smaller footprint than reach out to far flung schools to add just for the sake of adding.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utgrizfan Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, Wyobraska said: So what happens to the rest of CUSA? Back to FCS? Beg the Sun Belt for a life line? Try to make it as an independent? I think NMSU and Liberty and maybe even UCONN could find a football home finally. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugtang Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 There’s no reason for the MWC to expand. No to UTEP and/or NMSU. If we can get Gonzaga for basketball let’s do that and call it good. 3 Quote thelawlorfaithful, on 31 Dec 2012 - 04:01 AM, said:One of the rules I live by: never underestimate a man in a dandy looking sweater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idkk Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, bsu_alum9 said: True. But only have to look at San Jose to realize market size doesn’t really matter. There's 3 FBS schools in our market/region. Two (including ourselves) in the same county/MSA. There's also 3 top-level pro sports teams in the county (1 NFL, 1 NHL, 1 MLS) and another 3 in the region (2 MLB, 1 NBA). 6 total in the Bay Area. Very different situation to most programs. It's tough to gain mindshare with the general public when there are that many options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professorbum Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, BoiseStateOfMind said: NDSU should be content with being the Alabama of the FCS. And I don't mean that as an insult, I just really don't see FBS football working in Fargo. No insult taken. But no...we don't wan't to be FCS's Alabama anymore. We need to find an FBS home. It'll work out fine once we land somewhere. I mean, you guys make Hawaii work. It is also a heck of a lot easier to get to Fargo than Laramie, unless you're busing from CSU or something. 1 1 Quote I don't care what Jim says. That is not the real Ben Franklin. I'm 99% certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSF Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Wyobraska said: So what happens to the rest of CUSA? Back to FCS? Beg the Sun Belt for a life line? Try to make it as an independent? 8 schools left. They'll survive. 1 Quote In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utgrizfan Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Professorbum said: No insult taken. But no...we don't wan't to be FCS's Alabama anymore. We need to find an FBS home. It'll work out fine once we land somewhere. I mean, you guys make Hawaii work. It is also a heck of a lot easier to get to Fargo than Laramie, unless you're busing from CSU or something. If Texas is out I'd love to see both Dakota States and Montanas make the jump to the MWC. It's a complete Longshot and fantasy right now however. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utgrizfan Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, RSF said: 8 schools left. They'll survive. Id expect them to at least add Liberty and NMSU which would allow them to have a CCG. Also give UTEP a travel partner and this is if the AAC adds all 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...