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MetropolitanCowboy Posted June 30, 2021 Author Share Posted June 30, 2021 History will remember him for his arrogance, his naiveté, and his culpability in the deaths of over a half-million people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ClevelandBrown Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 War monger responsible for mass death and illness dies peacefully in resort town surrounded by loved ones. Shame. I think, therefore I'm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Del Scorcho Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Taos, NM what a beautiful place to take your last breath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornontheblue Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 He is off to the land where they can find the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lester_in_reno Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 he would have been at home on the German/Prussian military staff in 1914 or 1939.... . he's pretty much responsible for advocating for a dumb war that killed hundreds of thousands !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean327 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 I’m not normally one to speak ill of the dead, but the World is probably a better place now that he is no longer here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Coast Aztec Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 His legacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azgreg Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 People, not a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smltwnrckr Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 I dunno if I ever heard of a SecDef more hated by veterans than that guy. My war hero grandfather told me more than once if he ever met Rumsfeld, he'd punch him in the head. Planning is an exercise of power, and in a modern state much real power is suffused with boredom. The agents of planning are usually boring; the planning process is boring; the implementation of plans is always boring. In a democracy boredom works for bureaucracies and corporations as smell works for skunk. It keeps danger away. Power does not have to be exercised behind the scenes. It can be open. The audience is asleep. The modern world is forged amidst our inattention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrofade Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, sean327 said: I’m not normally one to speak ill of the dead, but the World is probably a better place now that he is no longer here. What's that quote? Something like, "I don't wish death on anyone, but I have read some obituaries with pleasure". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Coast Aztec Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Just now, smltwnrckr said: I dunno if I ever hear of a SecDef more hated by veterans than that guy. My war hero grandfather told me more than once if he ever met Rumsfeld, he'd punch him in the head. If he would have done a visit overseas while I was there, I would have had some "weapons maintenance" to be performed. For the entire day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean327 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, East Coast Aztec said: His legacy Truth. We had no business invading Iraq in 2003. If there was a poster child for unnecessary war, this would be it. Complete waste of human life for what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smltwnrckr Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, East Coast Aztec said: If he would have done a visit overseas while I was there, I would have had some "weapons maintenance" to be performed. For the entire day. Just now, sean327 said: Truth. We had no business invading Iraq in 2003. If there was a poster child for unnecessary war, this would be it. Complete waste of human life for what? Don't want to pretend that it gave me near the perspective that you guys or the families of the dead have, at all. By any stretch. But I was pretty ambivalent as a young man just out of college about the Iraq war, and wasn't for or against it, until I started covering the deaths and the families and funerals of these kids younger even than me for local papers. It's awful how easy it was to ignore what was going on. And that dude, those dudes who orchestrated it, they knew it. Frankly I am still ashamed for my early feelings about it (or lack thereof). Planning is an exercise of power, and in a modern state much real power is suffused with boredom. The agents of planning are usually boring; the planning process is boring; the implementation of plans is always boring. In a democracy boredom works for bureaucracies and corporations as smell works for skunk. It keeps danger away. Power does not have to be exercised behind the scenes. It can be open. The audience is asleep. The modern world is forged amidst our inattention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNLV2001 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, sean327 said: Truth. We had no business invading Iraq in 2003. If there was a poster child for unnecessary war, this would be it. Complete waste of human life for what? Wonder how much the Bush 1 dalliance in Kuwait & with Saddam prompted son, Bush 2 to get into Iraq & settle up with Saddam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...