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Donald Rumsfeld goes tits up

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I’m not normally one to speak ill of the dead, but the World is probably a better place now that he is no longer here.

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I dunno if I ever heard of a SecDef more hated by veterans than that guy. My war hero grandfather told me more than once if he ever met Rumsfeld, he'd punch him in the head. 

Planning is an exercise of power, and in a modern state much real power is suffused with boredom. The agents of planning are usually boring; the planning process is boring; the implementation of plans is always boring. In a democracy boredom works for bureaucracies and corporations as smell works for skunk. It keeps danger away. Power does not have to be exercised behind the scenes. It can be open. The audience is asleep. The modern world is forged amidst our inattention.

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4 minutes ago, sean327 said:

I’m not normally one to speak ill of the dead, but the World is probably a better place now that he is no longer here.

What's that quote? Something like, "I don't wish death on anyone, but I have read some obituaries with pleasure". 

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Just now, smltwnrckr said:

I dunno if I ever hear of a SecDef more hated by veterans than that guy. My war hero grandfather told me more than once if he ever met Rumsfeld, he'd punch him in the head. 

If he would have done a visit overseas while I was there, I would have had some "weapons maintenance" to be performed.  For the entire day.

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2 minutes ago, East Coast Aztec said:

His legacy

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Truth. We had no business invading Iraq in 2003. If there was a poster child for unnecessary war, this would be it. Complete waste of human life for what? 

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2 minutes ago, East Coast Aztec said:

If he would have done a visit overseas while I was there, I would have had some "weapons maintenance" to be performed.  For the entire day.

 

Just now, sean327 said:

Truth. We had no business invading Iraq in 2003. If there was a poster child for unnecessary war, this would be it. Complete waste of human life for what? 

Don't want to pretend that it gave me near the perspective that you guys or the families of the dead have, at all. By any stretch. But I was pretty ambivalent as a young man just out of college about the Iraq war, and wasn't for or against it, until I started covering the deaths and the families and funerals of these kids younger even than me for local papers. It's awful how easy it was to ignore what was going on. And that dude, those dudes who orchestrated it, they knew it. Frankly I am still ashamed for my early feelings about it (or lack thereof). 

Planning is an exercise of power, and in a modern state much real power is suffused with boredom. The agents of planning are usually boring; the planning process is boring; the implementation of plans is always boring. In a democracy boredom works for bureaucracies and corporations as smell works for skunk. It keeps danger away. Power does not have to be exercised behind the scenes. It can be open. The audience is asleep. The modern world is forged amidst our inattention.

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3 minutes ago, sean327 said:

Truth. We had no business invading Iraq in 2003. If there was a poster child for unnecessary war, this would be it. Complete waste of human life for what? 

Wonder how much the Bush 1 dalliance in Kuwait & with Saddam prompted son, Bush 2 to get into Iraq & settle up with Saddam 

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