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Supreme Court sides with former players in dispute with NCAA over compensation

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WASHINGTON -- In a ruling that could help push changes in college athletics, the Supreme Court on Monday unanimously sided with a group of former college athletes in a dispute with the NCAA over rules limiting certain compensation.

The high court ruled that NCAA limits on the education-related benefits that colleges can offer athletes who play Division I basketball and football can't be enforced.

Under current NCAA rules, students cannot be paid, and the scholarship money colleges can offer is capped at the cost of attending the school. The NCAA had defended its rules as necessary to preserve the amateur nature of college sports.


But the former athletes who brought the case, including former West Virginia football player Shawne Alston, argued that the NCAA's rules on education-related compensation were unfair and violate federal antitrust law designed to promote competition.

The case doesn't decide whether students can be paid salaries. Instead, the ruling will help determine whether schools decide to offer athletes tens of thousands of dollars in education-related benefits for things such as computers, graduate scholarships, tutoring, study abroad and internships.
 

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This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

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What is the NCAA going to enforce now? The whole amateurism model is out the window now.

Now is the time for recruiters to start offering cash and cars to recruits. Do it before the others do. The door is open. It's a free for all.

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Think about basketball too. Ironically this might help the product on the floor as this might reverse the flow of high level players who had been abandoning college basketball in favor of the G League. Instead of playing for the G league Ignite, perhaps a player would rather take $3 million to play at Duke for a year. 

 

This is also going to hurt those small market basketball schools. What are they going to offer their players? UNLV probably has more boosters who would be willing to pay than St Mary's does. In fact, with all that casino money UNLV may be the new top basketball school in the country. 

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I like this decision.  It's not going to sway too many blue chip recruits who think they are NFL bound after 3 years.  So kids get laptops with their scholarships, maybe an I pad too.  As long as schools are not giving away 7,000 gaming PC under the guise of academic tools it's not going to make much difference.

 

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Just now, halfmanhalfbronco said:

I like this decision.  It's not going to sway too many blue chip recruits who think they are NFL bound after 3 years.  So kids get laptops with their scholarships, maybe an I pad too.  As long as schools are not giving away 7,000 gaming PC under the guise of academic tools it's not going to make much difference.

 

What about helping with transportation to school? Might be a good time to open up a Mercedes dealership in Tuscaloosa...

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1 minute ago, southfresno said:

Think about basketball too. Ironically this might help the product on the floor as this might reverse the flow of high level players who had been abandoning college basketball in favor of the G League. Instead of playing for the G league Ignite, perhaps a player would rather take $3 million to play at Duke for a year. 

 

This is also going to hurt those small market basketball schools. What are they going to offer their players? UNLV probably has more boosters who would be willing to pay than St Mary's does. In fact, with all that casino money UNLV may be the new top basketball school in the country. 

 

What are you talking about?  

This has nothing to do with NIL.  And the proposal for NIL says it will have to be fair market value, boosters will not be able to just say "hey car dealership guy, I'm going to give you a million bucks to pay X recruit if he comes here".

A handful of blue chip recruits may make some bank, but most, especially in football, even 4 stars, are not going to get much.  In fact a 4 star recruit would likely make more in NIL in Fresno than in Alabama, given it has to be fair market value.  A 4 star recruit in Fresno will come in as THE man to watch, get deals right away.  The fair market value in Fresno would be higher than in Alabama where that 4 star recruit is just another player.  The car dealership is not going to shell out bucks to promise the 17th rated player in their class big money.  They won't get their return.

 

 

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1 minute ago, halfmanhalfbronco said:

 

What are you talking about?  

This has nothing to do with NIL.  And the proposal for NIL says it will have to be fair market value, boosters will not be able to just say "hey car dealership guy, I'm going to give you a million bucks to pay X recruit if he comes here".

A handful of blue chip recruits may make some bank, but most, especially in football, even 4 stars, are not going to get much.  In fact a 4 star recruit would likely make more in NIL in Fresno than in Alabama, given it has to be fair market value.  A 4 star recruit in Fresno will come in as THE man to watch, get deals right away.  The fair market value in Fresno would be higher than in Alabama where that 4 star recruit is just another player.  The car dealership is not going to shell out bucks to promise the 17th rated player in their class big money.  They won't get their return.

 

 

I'd be OK with that if true. That makes it sound like talent will be distributed more equally among colleges, but many are saying talent will be concentrated at rich schools. It will be interesting to see what will happen. 

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2 minutes ago, southfresno said:

I'd be OK with that if true. That makes it sound like talent will be distributed more equally among colleges, but many are saying talent will be concentrated at rich schools. It will be interesting to see what will happen. 

 

It's going to be a headache for the NCAA to enforce but the NIL proposal will actually increase the lure of schools like Fresno, Boise, Hawaii, SDSU for the 4 star recruit.  We still won't be landing any true blue chippers but we don't do that now anyways.  We may land 2-3 more low 4 star recruits a year though.  And schools like Rutgers may become more attractive than Alabama.  Fair market value for endorsements in NYC is a lot more than in Alabama. 

It will be interesting to say the least.  I think both of our schools will be just fine.  Certainly not worse off and maybe better.

 

 

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48 minutes ago, southfresno said:

Schools will now purchase players mansions.  Or hand out $10000 a month in living expenses. Use your imagination. The sky is the limit. 

I think about 164.1 million/year is the limit

 

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1 hour ago, halfmanhalfbronco said:

 

It's going to be a headache for the NCAA to enforce but the NIL proposal will actually increase the lure of schools like Fresno, Boise, Hawaii, SDSU for the 4 star recruit.  We still won't be landing any true blue chippers but we don't do that now anyways.  We may land 2-3 more low 4 star recruits a year though.  And schools like Rutgers may become more attractive than Alabama.  Fair market value for endorsements in NYC is a lot more than in Alabama. 

It will be interesting to say the least.  I think both of our schools will be just fine.  Certainly not worse off and maybe better.

 

Fresno's Cavinder twins give a good example of what might be possible from NIL at a non-Power school. With the right brand presence a student athlete potentially could have a lucrative income.

The Cavinders have about 3 million followers just on TikTok, plus many more on YouTube, Instagram, Twitter, etc.

A recent value estimate of just their TikTok account was over $500,000 annually if that account was monetized. That does not include the potential earnings from other social media.

https://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/story/_/id/30945653/social-media-stardom-how-changes-nil-benefit-athlete-influencers-ncaa

http://www.fresnobee.com/sports/college/mountain-west/fresno-state/bulldogs-basketball/article250801864.html

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