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1 hour ago, 818SUDSFan said:

First of all, just like the acronym BCS fell by the wayside, so too will the acronym P5. But it should not be forgotten that under the BCS, there were effectively SIX "power" or "automatic qualifier" conferences.

The champion of the Aresco Athletic Conference as currently composed will never be given an automatic slot in the College Football Playoff because it contains too much dreck. People point out how every one of the P5s contains at least one turd. However, Vandy is the only perpetual bottom feeder in the SEC. The B12 and ACC are much the same with only Kansas and Cuse being annual football mouth breathers. The B1G has three Vandys: Ill, Purdon't and Rutgers, but it's as much a basketball conference as a football conference. (Let's ignore the P12 for now because its future as an auto qualifier/power/whatever is up in the air.)

The Aresco Conference? It has too much going against it. (1) ND and the ACC excepted, no AQ/power/etc. conference has members which don't participate in all sports and Navy will never be in the AAC for all sports nor should it be. (2) Tusla, Too-lame and ECU bring absolutely nothing athletically except big crowds at the latter school's football games.

Therefore, although another Big East/aka Best of the Rest conference could conceivably come to the CFP, as long as the AAC keeps dragging those three anchors around, it won't be that BOR conference.

In all other sports there never ceased to be a P6, since the Big East is clearly on par with the power conferences. 

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2 hours ago, Did I hear a WOOSH? said:

I’ll bite, what are you driveling on about now?

And reading comprehension...

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7 hours ago, Did I hear a WOOSH? said:

I’ll bite, what are you driveling on about now?

he is pointing out that you do not understand what the AAC TV deal is

it is $1 billion paid out over 12 years

the deal AVERAGES just under $7 million per school per year for 12 years

the AAC TV deal will probably never pay out $10 million, but if it does then it would pay that out in year 12

the deal scales

here is about how the scale most likely looks

1 $4.25
2 $4.5
3 $5.25  
4 $5.5
5 $6.25   
6 $6.5
7 $7.25   
8 $7.5
9 $8.25   
10 $8.5
11 $9.25  
12 $9.5

so there is no way the AAC TV deal as it is structured now will come close to paying $10 million especially in year 5 or 6 unless the AAC teams are actually going to make less money in later years

so year 1 and year 12 added together = $13.75 million / 2 = $6.875 so that is pretty much right at the $6.94 million average of the $1 billion deal over 12 years for 12 teams

you can add year 2 and year 11 and get the same thing $13.75 / 2 = $6.875.......and it works that way for every other pair of years

 

YOU WANT TRADITION? WELL......HERE 'TIS......The University of North Texas has football wins over: Texas Tech U......Rice U......Baylor U......TCU......SMU......Houston......Oklahoma State......San Diego St.......Kansas State......Arizona State.......Colorado State......Brigham Young......Oregon State......Florida......Indiana......Tennessee (a 6 & 5 SEC team & still our biggest win in school history)......Boise State......Louisville......Cincinatti (our last match-up with UC was a UNT bowl win), plus FOUR (4) NCAA FBS level Bowl Games (one while having a losing season record) in this millennium's 1'st decade while North Texas has had ONE NCAA Division 1 Top 20 ranking.

The North Texas Mean Green Village (located between 2 Texas interstates & which a recent TxDOT study said 200,000 vehicles drive by it daily) is a multi-acre olympic style village of athletc venues*dorms*computer study centers, etc, topped off with what GIL BRANDT: The Father of Modern NFL Scouting who described UNT's Apogee Stadium as a "Tah Mahal of a College Football Stadium" with Brandt adding... 'and I've seen every NCAA D1 FB stadium in the USA." All this along with UNT's fabulous 10,000 seat Super Pit--the Best & Largest on-campus college basketball venue in the D-FW Metroplex......AND THREE PONDS AND A BRIDGE!!!!!

 

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On 7/1/2021 at 3:08 PM, Did I hear a WOOSH? said:

Utah is staying in its rut it created until the end, enjoy crowing over beating byu.  May you forever be in contention for the ‘one and only’ rose bowl.  

LOL.. If this is a rut, what would you call the performance of ANY team in the AAC?  BTW, how does UCF compare on these rankings? I must have missed their status..

https://www.deseret.com/2019/11/6/20951623/utah-has-been-in-college-football-playoff-rankings-more-than-most-teams-in-nation

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Well I have spent some time over on AAC Board the last few days.  Talk about delusional fans, most see the AAC raiding the Big12,

Follow this logic: on a thread titled "Big 12 accuses ESPN of promising a large contract to AAC if they raid Big 12", Cubanbull1 posts (4th page)

"Here is what will probably happen. UT and OU pay 160 million early exit fees and leave after 2021 or 2022 seasons. The Left over 8 get 20 million each and then merge with AAC for 20-25 million a year from ESPN. Best deal for those not going anywhere."

He also makes the very next post:

"Well FOX was already not paying for their champ game with UT and OU so doubt that they would offer 20+ million for the leftovers."

Is this what they call "Fuzzy Math"?  So according to this poster the Big12 leftovers will not have little value and will need to merge with the AAC, so they can then get a contract worth $20 to $25 million.  I'm have  hard time following this type of logic.  The leftover 8 have so little value that they need to merge with the AAC who pays an average of $7 million a year in order to make $20 to $25 million a year.

My math says 11 x 7 = $77 million, so in order to average $7 million per current AAC member it would take $77 million.  By adding 8 Big12 schools and getting $20 million per: 19 x 20 = $380 million; $380 million - $77 million = $303 million; So if adding the 8 Big12 school gives the AAC a $303 million bump or in other words each school would bring an average value of $37,875,000 per (303 / 8 = 37.875).  The $25 million number is even more delusional at $49,750,000 per.  Yet the AAC will be raiding the Big12 according to them....

 

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1 minute ago, e-zone99 said:

Well I have spent some time over on AAC Board the last few days.  Talk about delusional fans, most see the AAC raiding the Big12,

Follow this logic: on a thread titled "Big 12 accuses ESPN of promising a large contract to AAC if they raid Big 12", Cubanbull1 posts (4th page)

"Here is what will probably happen. UT and OU pay 160 million early exit fees and leave after 2021 or 2022 seasons. The Left over 8 get 20 million each and then merge with AAC for 20-25 million a year from ESPN. Best deal for those not going anywhere."

He also makes the very next post:

"Well FOX was already not paying for their champ game with UT and OU so doubt that they would offer 20+ million for the leftovers."

Is this what they call "Fuzzy Math"?  So according to this poster the Big12 leftovers will not have little value and will need to merge with the AAC, so they can then get a contract worth $20 to $25 million.  I'm have  hard time following this type of logic.  The leftover 8 have so little value that they need to merge with the AAC who pays an average of $7 million a year in order to make $20 to $25 million a year.

My math says 11 x 7 = $77 million, so in order to average $7 million per current AAC member it would take $77 million.  By adding 8 Big12 schools and getting $20 million per: 19 x 20 = $380 million; $380 million - $77 million = $303 million; So if adding the 8 Big12 school gives the AAC a $303 million bump or in other words each school would bring an average value of $37,875,000 per (303 / 8 = 37.875).  The $25 million number is even more delusional at $49,750,000 per.  Yet the AAC will be raiding the Big12 according to them....

 

 

That board is full of morons.  What's worse than their consistent idiocy is their thin skin.  Trolling is an automatic ban-able offense lmao.

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3 minutes ago, halfmanhalfbronco said:

 

That board is full of morons.  What's worse than their consistent idiocy is their thin skin.  Trolling is an automatic ban-able offense lmao.

Mug needs to buy it and straighten that shit out.

 

People, not a fan.

 

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22 hours ago, e-zone99 said:

Well I have spent some time over on AAC Board the last few days.  Talk about delusional fans, most see the AAC raiding the Big12,

Follow this logic: on a thread titled "Big 12 accuses ESPN of promising a large contract to AAC if they raid Big 12", Cubanbull1 posts (4th page)

"Here is what will probably happen. UT and OU pay 160 million early exit fees and leave after 2021 or 2022 seasons. The Left over 8 get 20 million each and then merge with AAC for 20-25 million a year from ESPN. Best deal for those not going anywhere."

He also makes the very next post:

"Well FOX was already not paying for their champ game with UT and OU so doubt that they would offer 20+ million for the leftovers."

Is this what they call "Fuzzy Math"?  So according to this poster the Big12 leftovers will not have little value and will need to merge with the AAC, so they can then get a contract worth $20 to $25 million.  I'm have  hard time following this type of logic.  The leftover 8 have so little value that they need to merge with the AAC who pays an average of $7 million a year in order to make $20 to $25 million a year.

My math says 11 x 7 = $77 million, so in order to average $7 million per current AAC member it would take $77 million.  By adding 8 Big12 schools and getting $20 million per: 19 x 20 = $380 million; $380 million - $77 million = $303 million; So if adding the 8 Big12 school gives the AAC a $303 million bump or in other words each school would bring an average value of $37,875,000 per (303 / 8 = 37.875).  The $25 million number is even more delusional at $49,750,000 per.  Yet the AAC will be raiding the Big12 according to them....

 

yea it starts out with them being too stupid to even know the difference between what media rights pay and what a full conference share is and where the revenues come from that make up a full conference share

they are not even intelligent enough to know that ESPN does not pay the Big 12 $40 million per year on the media deal even though they know that ESPN and Fox share the media deal about equally in cost

then they are too stupid to know that out of the $40 million or so (on average) that the Big 12 will earn per member per year over the final 4 years about $17 million of that comes from money that is not a part of the media contract

YOU WANT TRADITION? WELL......HERE 'TIS......The University of North Texas has football wins over: Texas Tech U......Rice U......Baylor U......TCU......SMU......Houston......Oklahoma State......San Diego St.......Kansas State......Arizona State.......Colorado State......Brigham Young......Oregon State......Florida......Indiana......Tennessee (a 6 & 5 SEC team & still our biggest win in school history)......Boise State......Louisville......Cincinatti (our last match-up with UC was a UNT bowl win), plus FOUR (4) NCAA FBS level Bowl Games (one while having a losing season record) in this millennium's 1'st decade while North Texas has had ONE NCAA Division 1 Top 20 ranking.

The North Texas Mean Green Village (located between 2 Texas interstates & which a recent TxDOT study said 200,000 vehicles drive by it daily) is a multi-acre olympic style village of athletc venues*dorms*computer study centers, etc, topped off with what GIL BRANDT: The Father of Modern NFL Scouting who described UNT's Apogee Stadium as a "Tah Mahal of a College Football Stadium" with Brandt adding... 'and I've seen every NCAA D1 FB stadium in the USA." All this along with UNT's fabulous 10,000 seat Super Pit--the Best & Largest on-campus college basketball venue in the D-FW Metroplex......AND THREE PONDS AND A BRIDGE!!!!!

 

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On 7/1/2021 at 2:44 PM, NorCalCoug said:

Some on this board are putting a lot of confidence in Craig Thompson to pull a rabbit out of his hat next negotiation.  I don’t know where that confidence comes from given the history of tv negotiations he’s spearheaded.  Good luck with that.

You forget that Boise's say in the media negotiations is worth the other 11 combined.  Boise has cut throat Tromp as President and a great new AD.  Boise won't let Hair +++++ this up, yet everybody here will still be pissed at Boise for "robbing" them 180k a year.

 

 

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45 minutes ago, halfmanhalfbronco said:

You forget that Boise's say in the media negotiations is worth the other 11 combined.  Boise has cut throat Tromp as President and a great new AD.  Boise won't let Hair +++++ this up, yet everybody here will still be pissed at Boise for "robbing" them 180k a year.

 

 

That’s why we’re still with ESPN 

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23 hours ago, e-zone99 said:

Well I have spent some time over on AAC Board the last few days.  Talk about delusional fans, most see the AAC raiding the Big12,

Follow this logic: on a thread titled "Big 12 accuses ESPN of promising a large contract to AAC if they raid Big 12", Cubanbull1 posts (4th page)

"Here is what will probably happen. UT and OU pay 160 million early exit fees and leave after 2021 or 2022 seasons. The Left over 8 get 20 million each and then merge with AAC for 20-25 million a year from ESPN. Best deal for those not going anywhere."

He also makes the very next post:

"Well FOX was already not paying for their champ game with UT and OU so doubt that they would offer 20+ million for the leftovers."

Is this what they call "Fuzzy Math"?  So according to this poster the Big12 leftovers will not have little value and will need to merge with the AAC, so they can then get a contract worth $20 to $25 million.  I'm have  hard time following this type of logic.  The leftover 8 have so little value that they need to merge with the AAC who pays an average of $7 million a year in order to make $20 to $25 million a year.

My math says 11 x 7 = $77 million, so in order to average $7 million per current AAC member it would take $77 million.  By adding 8 Big12 schools and getting $20 million per: 19 x 20 = $380 million; $380 million - $77 million = $303 million; So if adding the 8 Big12 school gives the AAC a $303 million bump or in other words each school would bring an average value of $37,875,000 per (303 / 8 = 37.875).  The $25 million number is even more delusional at $49,750,000 per.  Yet the AAC will be raiding the Big12 according to them....

 

Without going into the financial delusions, most football fans no nothing of finances, they're not far from wrong that a number of R8 schools could end up in the AAC in the long run.  Some could end up in the MWC.  There aren't that many seats at the table and most....MOST of the R8 are G5 caliber schools.  They're from small markets, without a national following. They have regional appeal and many don't even dominate their region. Hello ISU.  Hello OK st. Hello Kst AND KU.  Some aren't even worth considering as candidates for P5 slots.  Hello TT!  Is WVU attractive to the ACC?  They could have added them a few years ago and chose not to.

As much as the R8 fan base doesn't want to hear it, they should prepare for the inevitability that most of the will end up in the MWC  or the AAC.

And no, they aren't greater than the sum of their parts.  Staying together just means they'll create the G6.

 

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11 minutes ago, SDSUfan said:

Without going into the financial delusions, most football fans no nothing of finances, they're not far from wrong that a number of R8 schools could end up in the AAC in the long run.  Some could end up in the MWC.  There aren't that many seats at the table and most....MOST of the R8 are G5 caliber schools.  They're from small markets, without a national following. They have regional appeal and many don't even dominate their region. Hello ISU.  Hello OK st. Hello Kst AND KU.  Some aren't even worth considering as candidates for P5 slots.  Hello TT!  Is WVU attractive to the ACC?  They could have added them a few years ago and chose not to.

As much as the R8 fan base doesn't want to hear it, they should prepare for the inevitability that most of the will end up in the MWC  or the AAC.

And no, they aren't greater than the sum of their parts.  Staying together just means they'll create the G6.

 

all of those programs are worth more than any in the AAC or MWC programs in the AAC or MWC would jump to get in with any of the Big 12 members not the other way around

YOU WANT TRADITION? WELL......HERE 'TIS......The University of North Texas has football wins over: Texas Tech U......Rice U......Baylor U......TCU......SMU......Houston......Oklahoma State......San Diego St.......Kansas State......Arizona State.......Colorado State......Brigham Young......Oregon State......Florida......Indiana......Tennessee (a 6 & 5 SEC team & still our biggest win in school history)......Boise State......Louisville......Cincinatti (our last match-up with UC was a UNT bowl win), plus FOUR (4) NCAA FBS level Bowl Games (one while having a losing season record) in this millennium's 1'st decade while North Texas has had ONE NCAA Division 1 Top 20 ranking.

The North Texas Mean Green Village (located between 2 Texas interstates & which a recent TxDOT study said 200,000 vehicles drive by it daily) is a multi-acre olympic style village of athletc venues*dorms*computer study centers, etc, topped off with what GIL BRANDT: The Father of Modern NFL Scouting who described UNT's Apogee Stadium as a "Tah Mahal of a College Football Stadium" with Brandt adding... 'and I've seen every NCAA D1 FB stadium in the USA." All this along with UNT's fabulous 10,000 seat Super Pit--the Best & Largest on-campus college basketball venue in the D-FW Metroplex......AND THREE PONDS AND A BRIDGE!!!!!

 

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23 minutes ago, Someone said:

all of those programs are worth more than any in the AAC or MWC programs in the AAC or MWC would jump to get in with any of the Big 12 members not the other way around

They're the ugly friends of the hot chick.  The hot chick is gone. Now, they're just ugly.

They have no local markets to speak of and the only national profile they had was utterly dependent on the hot chick.

They have some basketball chops but this isn't about basketball.

 

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4 minutes ago, SDSUfan said:

They're the ugly friends of the hot chick.  The hot chick is gone. Now, they're just ugly.

They have no local markets to speak of and the only national profile they had was utterly dependent on the hot chick.

They have some basketball chops but this isn't about basketball.

 

 

They may be ugly but they still have more money than the men chasing them.

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26 minutes ago, Someone said:

all of those programs are worth more than any in the AAC or MWC programs in the AAC or MWC would jump to get in with any of the Big 12 members not the other way around

Break it down for me.  Without referencing current TV money.

Why is Texas Tech a more valuable TV property than Boise State

Why is Kansas State, ISU or OK St a more valuable TV property than SDSU

We'll start with those then we'll move on to RSF's dumpster fire.

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6 minutes ago, SDSUfan said:

They're the ugly friends of the hot chick.  The hot chick is gone. Now, they're just ugly.

They have no local markets to speak of and the only national profile they had was utterly dependent on the hot chick.

They have some basketball chops but this isn't about basketball.

 

Bitterness can be so entertaining...

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