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38 minutes ago, Did I hear a WOOSH? said:

Lol! Seriously I don’t know what to expect this year because we’re exiting a rebuild but yes I would say those teams would be low hanging fruit for any of the not terrible aac teams most years.  

Utah and USC should be good, but don't hold much expectation for ASU and UCLA is not far behind in that department.  Who is supposed to be good besides Cincy this year for the AAC?

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11 hours ago, Old_Sparty1857 said:

I think the only thing wrong with UH is that it’s in Houston. 

 

 

Well...its not the ONLY thing....

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UH #1 in the country in entrepreneurship at the under grad level.
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UH top 100 school World wide in producing millionaires.
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UH top 100 in U.S. patents.
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No MWC school on the lists.

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3 minutes ago, since1670 said:

 

UH top 100 school World wide in producing millionaires.
file:///C:/d0/CHC/Cougar/Academics/RankingOrganizations/Times/UniversitiesProducingMillionaires/millionaires-top-100-UKTimes.htm

 

And (at least) 1 UH grad that doesnt know how to post links....

 

6 minutes ago, since1670 said:

The number of patents granted does not necessarily indicate the value of a university’s technology, the effectiveness of its research or whether its patents will be successfully licensed and/or brought to market. If you have any questions, please contact jcoons@academyofinventors.org

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4 minutes ago, RSF said:

 

And (at least) 1 UH grad that doesnt know how to post links....

 

The number of patents granted does not necessarily indicate the value of a university’s technology, the effectiveness of its research or whether its patents will be successfully licensed and/or brought to market. If you have any questions, please contact jcoons@academyofinventors.org

Still cool to have inventors though.  Gotta respect it.  The undergrad entrepreneur award is an eyeroll, but patents and millionaires are pretty decent distinctions.

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1 hour ago, Did I hear a WOOSH? said:

Except that when the school accepts almost everyone but graduates almost no one that indicates they aren’t a good school.  There are plenty of other measures that show ‘the quality of the applicant’, would you care to talk about those? Spoiler, the applicant pool isn’t strong and it’s still not a good school.   

For the 20th time, there’s ten years left on the aac deal, but it won’t go that long because the conference is going to be fundamentally different by 2025.  Same with MWC most likely.  

 

I did not mention anything about graduation rates which is a different issue than acceptance rate

and I clearly mentioned factors that show the quality of students admitted....class rank, GPA, SAT/ACT scores.....but even two of those factors GPA and class rank need to have the quality of the high school taken into consideration

but the point stands that no matter what factors a university uses to evaluate or admit students there is nothing that correlates the quality of those students or the difficulty of being admitted to acceptance rates.....acceptance rates are a 100% useless metric to define anything related to the quality of a student being admitted or the quality of education they receive or the difficulty of being admitted to a university

 

and the AAC TV deal runs from 2020-21 to 2031-32 which is 12 years......more importantly this fiscal year is the 2020-21 fiscal year and that will end in July or August for most of the D1-A conferences.....so as of now that deal is still in the very first year and it has 11 years and a month or two left to go not 10 years

and along with that the deal will scale and they have not released how it scales, but if it scales like most conference deals do it will not be paying the average of the deal until it is in the middle years of the deal so 5 or more years from now when the MWC will be in the process of working a new deal

and I doubt there will be much if any change in the AAC between now and the end of the deal.....if ESPN cared about paying members of the AAC to be in P5 conferences (or more so if they felt it would be long term profitable for them to do so) they would not have offered slightly more money to the AAC if a GOR was signed for 12 years......they would have discouraged a GOR or they would have simply refused to consider paying more for the AAC to have one......but clearly they had no concerns with the ability to have teams from the AAC move to other conferences because they were willing to pay a bit more to make that extremely unlikely and highly costly in court to do so (in the case of a possible legal win for the team leaving the AAC)

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2 hours ago, East Coast Aztec said:

Utah and USC should be good, but don't hold much expectation for ASU and UCLA is not far behind in that department.  Who is supposed to be good besides Cincy this year for the AAC?

Temple and usf are supposed to be bad, ecu is supposed to be better, but who knows with them.  The rest are supposed to be pretty good.  The wild cards are SMU and Tulsa.  SMU has been on the rise, Tulsa has what’s expected to be one of the best collective offensive and defensive lines in the country.  Both could be very good or just good.  

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On 6/30/2021 at 10:51 AM, Did I hear a WOOSH? said:

Lol! Seriously I don’t know what to expect this year because we’re exiting a rebuild but yes I would say those teams would be low hanging fruit for any of the not terrible aac teams most years.  

Are we talking about the same UCF team that was embarrassed by BYU last season? A team Utah has smoked for over a decade straight. 

We should set up a game. We have a few conditions for FCS teams. You will be coming to SLC for a 1 and done. You'll get your body bag paycheck like the rest of the cupcakes. 

Like I said earlier a few hundred fans on the ACC board chirping doesn't mean anything.  Again, if the ACC was such a powerhouse, you think the TV contract would be on a P5 level?

 

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6 minutes ago, utenation said:

Are we talking about the same UCF team that was embarrassed by BYU last season? A team Utah has smoked for over a decade straight. 

We should set up a game. We have a few conditions for FCS teams. You will be coming to SLC for a 1 and done. You'll get your body bag paycheck like the rest of the cupcakes. 

Like I said earlier a few hundred fans on the ACC board chirping doesn't mean anything.  Again, if the ACC was such a powerhouse, you think the TV contract would be on a P5 level?

 

This is always amusing to me.  

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On 6/28/2021 at 8:18 PM, Koji Vu said:

AAC is locked in their deal for 10 years. MWC will renegotiate to a better deal in a few years. 

Confucius once famously said "MWC TV deal will look better than AAC's for 4 years, then when AAC deal is renegotiated it will look better than MWC's for next 4 years and so on. In final analysis, both always suck balls."

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25 minutes ago, 818SUDSFan said:

Confucius once famously said "MWC TV deal will look better than AAC's for 4 years, then when AAC deal is renegotiated it will look better than MWC's for next 4 years and so on. In final analysis, both always suck balls."

Some on this board are putting a lot of confidence in Craig Thompson to pull a rabbit out of his hat next negotiation.  I don’t know where that confidence comes from given the history of tv negotiations he’s spearheaded.  Good luck with that.

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1 hour ago, utenation said:

Are we talking about the same UCF team that was embarrassed by BYU last season? A team Utah has smoked for over a decade straight. 

We should set up a game. We have a few conditions for FCS teams. You will be coming to SLC for a 1 and done. You'll get your body bag paycheck like the rest of the cupcakes. 

Like I said earlier a few hundred fans on the ACC board chirping doesn't mean anything.  Again, if the ACC was such a powerhouse, you think the TV contract would be on a P5 level?

 

Utah is staying in its rut it created until the end, enjoy crowing over beating byu.  May you forever be in contention for the ‘one and only’ rose bowl.  

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50 minutes ago, 818SUDSFan said:

Confucius once famously said "MWC TV deal will look better than AAC's for 4 years, then when AAC deal is renegotiated it will look better than MWC's for next 4 years and so on. In final analysis, both always suck balls."

It is very optimistic to assume that not only will the MWC get a significant raise in the next deal but to get one for north of 10 mil/season, which it would have to in order to equal the aac’s by then.

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14 minutes ago, Did I hear a WOOSH? said:

It is very optimistic to assume that not only will the MWC get a significant raise in the next deal but to get one for north of 10 mil/season, which it would have to in order to equal the aac’s by then.

Math is hard for you isnt it?

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1 hour ago, 818SUDSFan said:

Confucius once famously said "MWC TV deal will look better than AAC's for 4 years, then when AAC deal is renegotiated it will look better than MWC's for next 4 years and so on. In final analysis, both always suck balls."

 

Confucius also said "P6 is like catching clouds. Impossible."

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35 minutes ago, jdgaucho said:

Confucius also said "P6 is like catching clouds. Impossible."

First of all, just like the acronym BCS fell by the wayside, so too will the acronym P5. But it should not be forgotten that under the BCS, there were effectively SIX "power" or "automatic qualifier" conferences.

The champion of the Aresco Athletic Conference as currently composed will never be given an automatic slot in the College Football Playoff because it contains too much dreck. People point out how every one of the P5s contains at least one turd. However, Vandy is the only perpetual bottom feeder in the SEC. The B12 and ACC are much the same with only Kansas and Cuse being annual football mouth breathers. The B1G has three Vandys: Ill, Purdon't and Rutgers, but it's as much a basketball conference as a football conference. (Let's ignore the P12 for now because its future as an auto qualifier/power/whatever is up in the air.)

The Aresco Conference? It has too much going against it. (1) ND and the ACC excepted, no AQ/power/etc. conference has members which don't participate in all sports and Navy will never be in the AAC for all sports nor should it be. (2) Tusla, Too-lame and ECU bring absolutely nothing athletically except big crowds at the latter school's football games.

Therefore, although another Big East/aka Best of the Rest conference could conceivably come to the CFP, as long as the AAC keeps dragging those three anchors around, it won't be that BOR conference.

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1 hour ago, 818SUDSFan said:

First of all, just like the acronym BCS fell by the wayside, so too will the acronym P5. But it should not be forgotten that under the BCS, there were effectively SIX "power" or "automatic qualifier" conferences.

The champion of the Aresco Athletic Conference as currently composed will never be given an automatic slot in the College Football Playoff because it contains too much dreck. People point out how every one of the P5s contains at least one turd. However, Vandy is the only perpetual bottom feeder in the SEC. The B12 and ACC are much the same with only Kansas and Cuse being annual football mouth breathers. The B1G has three Vandys: Ill, Purdon't and Rutgers, but it's as much a basketball conference as a football conference. (Let's ignore the P12 for now because its future as an auto qualifier/power/whatever is up in the air.)

The Aresco Conference? It has too much going against it. (1) ND and the ACC excepted, no AQ/power/etc. conference has members which don't participate in all sports and Navy will never be in the AAC for all sports nor should it be. (2) Tusla, Too-lame and ECU bring absolutely nothing athletically except big crowds at the latter school's football games.

Therefore, although another Big East/aka Best of the Rest conference could conceivably come to the CFP, as long as the AAC keeps dragging those three anchors around, it won't be that BOR conference.

I think you’re a little late to the party. That said you’re correct the p5 moniker was short lived.

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