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Today - the rule of law prevailed

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19 hours ago, RSF said:

For all the talk about abuse of power or executive overreach, the fact is Presidents from the last 50 years have been issuing far fewer EOs than their predecesors.  Reagan is the modern leader, and he issued less than 400 in 8 years.  FDR, Wilson, Coolidge and Teddy Roosevelt all signed more than 1000.  Truman had 900+, but after him the numbers fell way off.

The number of EOs is a completely irrelevant measure.  An EO could simply declare flags to be at half staff.  It is the substance of an EO that matters.  
 

Also - the legislative gaps were enormous 100 years ago actually giving the President a bit more freedom.  The scope of legislation in today’s world in almost every topic area dwarfs that of 100 years ago.  
 


 

 

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1 hour ago, OrediggerPoke said:

The number of EOs is a completely irrelevant measure.  An EO could simply declare flags to be at half staff.  It is the substance of an EO that matters.  
 

Also - the legislative gaps were enormous 100 years ago actually giving the President a bit more freedom.  The scope of legislation in today’s world in almost every topic area dwarfs that of 100 years ago.  
 


 

 

It's not irrelevant just because you say so, but whatever.

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43 minutes ago, RSF said:

It's not irrelevant just because you say so, but whatever.

I agree it’s not irrelevant just because I say so.  It’s irrelevant as a matter of fact.  
 

Pursuant to long-standing caselaw -Presidents undoubtedly have the power to issue executive orders where: (1) to fill gaps where Congress has not spoken; and (2) where congress has provided the President with such authority (such as the Antiquities Act).  So if a President issues 1 million executive orders that all follow these guidelines, they have not exceeded the scope of their power.  If a President only issues 10 total EO’s but one of the EOs seeks to usurp an existing statute, the President has exceeded the scope of their power.  

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On 6/17/2021 at 11:31 AM, bsu_alum9 said:

Not really on pace for 400 @soupslam.  He signed 25 in the first 8 days in office (a lot) but has signed the other 25 since then.  At just over 5 per month, he's on pace for about 225 - just about the same as Trump. 

That said I'm with @OrediggerPoke on this one.  If Democrats try to "solve" climate change through executive actions, it's going to cause more harm than good.

That’s some pretty tricky cherry picking math there alum. If he signed one today you can also project that to 1400 for a four year term

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20 minutes ago, soupslam1 said:

That’s some pretty tricky cherry picking math there alum. If he signed one today you can also project that to 1400 for a four year term

Not really. It's non linear.

25 in January (only 10 days in office)

8 in February

3 in March

5 in April

5 in May

3 so far in June

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Only way he gets more than 300 over 4 years is if Republicans win midterms and he goes the 2014 Obama "I've got a pen and a phone" route.

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