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5 minutes ago, sactowndog said:

One step at a time.  The rest of the P5 can’t beat those three programs.  Let’s prove we belong first.  Rome wasn’t built in a day.  

oh, I agree...I like this proposal WAY more than a 4 team playoff.

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4 minutes ago, sactowndog said:

I agree.  I think it is also better than being forced to play Bama and Clemson right out of the gate.  

kinda like making the 16 seeds fight it out in the NCAA tourney before playing a 1 seed...at least one of em will get a NCAA Tourney 'W' before being sacrificed to the 1 seed

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14 minutes ago, ph90702 said:

The AAC is better than the MW.  Multiple programs used to be in the P6 Big East.

an interesting post I saw on that 'other' board lol

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AttackcoogOne thing I thought was really interesting in the letter was that the AAC actually qualifies as a "AQ" conference under the old criteria that was written into the BCS agreement.  

"AQ conference" was of course the BCS version of a "P5 conference".   The old BCS agreement had a set of criteria approved by the power conferences that, if achieved by any "non-AQ" conference, that conference would be granted "AQ" BCS status (which meant it's champion would be an "automatic qualifier" for a BCS NYD Bowl slot each year).   According to the letter, the AAC has surpassed all three of those required milestones and would qualify as a BCS conference if that agreement was still in force today.

https://andywittry.substack.com/p/american-athletic-conference-requested

 

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11 hours ago, ph90702 said:

The AAC is better than the MW.  Multiple programs used to be in the P6 Big East.

And only Cincinnati of the good Big East programs are in the AAC.  Of the schools from the best Big East years (ie, before Miami left), only Temple is in the AAC.  After Miami left, that is when the Big East started morphing into CUSA 2.0.

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3 minutes ago, RSF said:

And only Cincinnati of the good Big East programs are in the AAC.  Of the schools from the best Big East years (ie, before Miami left), only Temple is in the AAC.  After Miami left, that is when the Big East started morphing into CUSA 2.0.

Which is fine by us as most of us really enjoyed CUSA 1.0

Cincy, Louisville, Memphis, Houston, Marquette, Depaul, St Louis, etc

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11 hours ago, UofMTigers said:

an interesting post I saw on that 'other' board lol

 

Except for the fact that the BCS claim is shaky at best.  

 

The actual criteria (replacing BCS with CFP), with covers a 4 year period:

 

 

*The evaluation includes the following for each conference (1) the ranking of the highest-ranked team in the final BCSCFP Standings each year (if a conference does not place a team in the final BCSCFP Standings, then its highest-ranked team is determined by the conference member that has the highest average ranking in the computer rankings used in the BCSCFP Standings), (2) the final regular-season rankings of all conference teams in the computer rankings used by the BCSCFP each year, and (3) the number of teams in the top 25 of the final BCSCFP Standings each year, with adjustments to account for differences in the number of members of each conference.

A conference will become the seventhsixth automatic qualifier if it finishes among the top sixfive conferences in both No. 1 and No. 2 and if its ranking in No. 3 is equal to or greater than 50 percent of the conference with the highest ranking in No. 3.

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5 minutes ago, UofMTigers said:

Which is fine by us as most of us really enjoyed CUSA 1.0

Cincy, Louisville, Memphis, Houston, Marquette, Depaul, St Louis, etc

Wasnt aware Marquette, DePaul and St Louis played football.

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13 minutes ago, RSF said:

And only Cincinnati of the good Big East programs are in the AAC.  Of the schools from the best Big East years (ie, before Miami left), only Temple is in the AAC.  After Miami left, that is when the Big East started morphing into CUSA 2.0.

South Florida was in the Big East.

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4 minutes ago, ph90702 said:

South Florida was in the Big East.

And they werent good - hell, Rutgers was better in that time.  'good Big East programs'.  They were the 1st of the CUSA 2.0 teams.

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6 minutes ago, RSF said:

Wasnt aware Marquette, DePaul and St Louis played football.

last I looked the money sports are football AND basketball...moreover, it's why we're currently down a member but also have 17 million extra to cover production costs from ESPN+

you have a lot of hate for CUSA.

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8 minutes ago, ph90702 said:

South Florida was in the Big East.

and Cincy isn't really a 'Big East' school...where did Cincy, UL, and USF come from again?

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15 hours ago, UofMTigers said:

not of you actually intend to win the title. if the goal is simply to prove 'hey, we belong!' then sure. wearing out your squad before taking on Bama/Clemson isn't very smart IMHO.

I'd prefer 8 teams. P5+1G5+2 At-Large.

They get more buy-in for 12 teams because everybody thinks they have more access. SEC thinks it can get 4 teams into the playoffs, Notre Dame thinks it's a shoe-in for playoffs every year, G5s think they have a shot. 

Only the lower tier P5s don't really gain anything, but maybe they think that if they actually have a decent team one year it *might* make it in as well. 

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24 minutes ago, Koji Vu said:



Only the lower tier P5s don't really gain anything, but maybe they think that if they actually have a decent team one year it *might* make it in as well. 

4 of the 5 P5 conferences would have had at least half their members make an expanded playoff since the CFP started in 2014.

 

SEC (8) - Ole Miss, Miss State, Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, LSU, Florida, TAMU

B10 (7) - Mich State, Ohio State, Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan, Penn State, Indiana

B12 (5) - Baylor, Kansas State, TCU, OU, Iowa State

P12 (7) - Arizona, Oregon, Stanford, USC, Colorado, Washington, Utah

ACC (4) - Fla State, Clemson, UNC, Miami

Simulated CFP appearances by team
7: Ohio State
6: Alabama, Clemson, Oklahoma
4: Georgia, Penn State
3: Florida, Florida State, Notre Dame, Washington, Wisconsin
2: Baylor, LSU, Michigan, Michigan State, Oregon, TCU, UCF, USC
1: Arizona, Auburn, Boise State, Cincinnati, Coastal Carolina, Colorado, Houston, Indiana, Iowa, Iowa State, Kansas State, Memphis, Miami, Mississippi State, North Carolina, Ole Miss, Stanford, Texas A&M, Utah, Western Michigan

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3 hours ago, RSF said:

And only Cincinnati of the good Big East programs are in the AAC.  Of the schools from the best Big East years (ie, before Miami left), only Temple is in the AAC.  After Miami left, that is when the Big East started morphing into CUSA 2.0.

And Temple got the boot from the Big East...

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3 hours ago, RSF said:

4 of the 5 P5 conferences would have had at least half their members make an expanded playoff since the CFP started in 2014.

 

SEC (8) - Ole Miss, Miss State, Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, LSU, Florida, TAMU

B10 (7) - Mich State, Ohio State, Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan, Penn State, Indiana

B12 (5) - Baylor, Kansas State, TCU, OU, Iowa State

P12 (7) - Arizona, Oregon, Stanford, USC, Colorado, Washington, Utah

ACC (4) - Fla State, Clemson, UNC, Miami

Simulated CFP appearances by team
7: Ohio State
6: Alabama, Clemson, Oklahoma
4: Georgia, Penn State
3: Florida, Florida State, Notre Dame, Washington, Wisconsin
2: Baylor, LSU, Michigan, Michigan State, Oregon, TCU, UCF, USC
1: Arizona, Auburn, Boise State, Cincinnati, Coastal Carolina, Colorado, Houston, Indiana, Iowa, Iowa State, Kansas State, Memphis, Miami, Mississippi State, North Carolina, Ole Miss, Stanford, Texas A&M, Utah, Western Michigan

Nice research. Sounds like a win/win for everybody then.

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On 6/12/2021 at 11:33 AM, smltwnrckr said:

Making the G5s think they have a shot at the national title will do more to expedite their demise than anything prior. At most a g5 will knock off a team in round 1 every decade or so before being crushed by a 1 or 2 seed while the g5 conferences as a whole deteriorate further. 

Just watch.

 

I would expect at least one G5 win every three or four years in the proposed 12-team playoff.

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9 hours ago, Koji Vu said:

They get more buy-in for 12 teams because everybody thinks they have more access. SEC thinks it can get 4 teams into the playoffs, Notre Dame thinks it's a shoe-in for playoffs every year, G5s think they have a shot. 

Only the lower tier P5s don't really gain anything, but maybe they think that if they actually have a decent team one year it *might* make it in as well. 

One question that I haven't seen addressed in this proposal is how the money is divided up.  Currently, the G5 rep to the NY6 receives a much lower payout than the P5 rep.  Since that G5 money is shared with all of the G5, it doesn't add up to anything close to what the P5 team makes. 

Will the revenue be more fair under this proposal, or is it just another token PR stunt?

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1 hour ago, Headbutt said:

One question that I haven't seen addressed in this proposal is how the money is divided up.  Currently, the G5 rep to the NY6 receives a much lower payout than the P5 rep.  Since that G5 money is shared with all of the G5, it doesn't add up to anything close to what the P5 team makes. 

Will the revenue be more fair under this proposal, or is it just another token PR stunt?

My guess is the 1st round would be funded like the NY6 at large games, with big money coming from the quarterfinals forward.

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