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33 minutes ago, Did I hear a WOOSH? said:

So does the aac, Mike aresco is like a school kid on social media crowing about his p6 moniker.  There’s been rumors about him getting a contract extension and we’ve been wondering WHYYY but now we can see what’s been happening behind the scenes.

Was Aresco on the panel on deciding this? I thought the only G5 rep was Hair?

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1 hour ago, Del Scorcho said:

ND getting screwed here IMO

 

https://theathletic.com/2644891/2021/06/10/college-football-playoff-expansion-proposal-whats-right-whats-wrong-and-whod-benefit-most-from-the-12-team-format/

 

If you were the commissioner of the conference you cover, how do you think this new proposal would help or hurt your league’s Playoff aspirations?

 

Pete Sampson (Notre Dame beat writer): Notre Dame’s “commissioner” was on the committee drafting the 12-team proposal in athletics director Jack Swarbrick, so we already have an answer for this. It helps Notre Dame in almost every way, even if there’s a wonky drawback to reserving the four byes for conference champions, even if the Irish finish No. 1 (2012), No. 3 (2018) or No. 4 (2020). The idea that Notre Dame could be ranked No. 1 at the end of the regular season but have to host a first-round game doesn’t make a lot of sense. But that’s a minor drawback compared to the access the Irish get to the Playoff with six at-large bids available. Notre Dame’s nightmare scenario was an eight-team field with six automatic bids and two at-large slots. The 12-team field is just about perfect.

 

 

How should Notre Dame fans feel about this format and its impact on their team’s Playoff chances? 

Sampson (Notre Dame): Thrilled. If college football was ever going to get Notre Dame to join a conference, the College Football Playoff was always the biggest driver. If the Playoff ever got to a point where conference champions were only allowed, Notre Dame would have to join the ACC in full, There will always be three tripwires for Notre Dame and conference affiliation: 1. Access to the football championship game. 2. A television network for home games. 3. A home for Olympic sports. This doesn’t change No. 2 or No. 3. It improves No. 1. The notion that Notre Dame cannot have a bye week in the Playoff because it’s not a conference champion doesn’t make a lot of sense, but life is a negotiation.

Dochterman (Big Ten): Notre Dame should be thrilled. Its athletics director helped create the proposed system without surrendering any of the tenets that made it unique. Did it deserve special treatment? That’s up for debate.

Emerson (SEC): College football is better when Notre Dame is good. If the Fighting Irish are good enough to basically be guaranteed a spot in the 12-team Playoff every year, then so be it, as long as they earn it.

Haller (Pac-12): Hard to imagine a better scenario for the Fighting Irish. That said, I agree with Seth: The sport is better when Notre Dame matters.

Raynor (ACC): I’m sure Notre Dame fans are pumped. Their athletic director had a seat at the table in recommending this model. As Pete mentioned, this would allow Notre Dame to make the Playoff without having an incentive to join a conference. Not being eligible for a first-round bye could be frustrating, but it seems like that’s a tradeoff Notre Dame is willing to make. An actual have-your-cake-and-eat-it-too scenario. I also feel like Notre Dame and Clemson have built a nice little rivalry. Seeing each other in the Playoff could allow these two teams to keep playing, even in the years they’re not on each other’s regular-season schedules.

Kersey (Big 12): Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but looking at this proposal, I feel like it virtually guarantees Notre Dame a spot in the Playoff most years as long as it doesn’t lose more than two regular-season games. Sure, it’s a tad unfair that, as Pete said, the Irish can’t have a first-round bye. But I feel like that is at least partially made up by advantages Notre Dame’s situation affords it.

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1 hour ago, Del Scorcho said:

does Boise think it should get more $$$ by adding those 5 Oregon counties? :D

I thought a new state was gonna exist called Jefferson?

Anyway, Most of eastern Oregon neither Idaho or Oregon wants. I live in Wallowa County and go to Union and Baker everyday. There is no one here to watch TV.

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9 minutes ago, Del Scorcho said:

what will the record of SEC teams be in the CFP?

4, 5 maybe even 6 teams in? That is the one negative I can forsee 

They have never had more than 4 in the 8 years of the CFP, and its usually been 1 to 3.  In 2014, the Big 12 would have had 3 (and none of them OU or UT).

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1 hour ago, sebasour said:

 

Oklahoma would have been the 4 seed last year

 

1 hour ago, Pelado said:

A&M wouldn't have gotten a bye.  At least one of the articles indicated that the byes would go to the four highest-ranked conference champions and that ND/Independents are not eligible.  So I think that would have been Cincinnati.

Edit:  Looks like the final CFP rankings had Oklahoma as #6, ahead of #8 Cincinnati, so @sebasour above is right - Oklahoma would have gotten the bye.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/rankings/_/week/1/year/2020/seasontype/3

You guys are right. My bad. Here's the correction:

 

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DO NOT let ybu back in, just say no! They will call eventually, don't do it.  They can join the AAC and play far flung eastern state schools. 

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This 12 team CFP format has two thumbs up from me.  This is better than having automatic bids for P5 conference championship teams and the highest G5 champ.  It's possible that two G5 teams could get into the CFP that way.

 

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11 minutes ago, Did I hear a WOOSH? said:

He’s been pushing top 6 for a little while now, not sure if you’ve heard.  

He doesn't shut up about being a P6.The P5 wouldn't let that ever happen. But this isn't quite the same thing but it's probably the best outcome.

What I'm saying is the committee came up with this idea and then shared it with the other AD's and Presidents. I don't know how much input the others had bit this seems like Hair was doing his job and batting for the little guys for a change. I'd be amazed if two G5's get in. And I think BYU is screwed with the way they schedule. It might be their best interest to call the AAC.

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5 minutes ago, Ibanez said:

He doesn't shut up about being a P6.The P5 wouldn't let that ever happen. But this isn't quite the same thing but it's probably the best outcome.

What I'm saying is the committee came up with this idea and then shared it with the other AD's and Presidents. I don't know how much input the others had bit this seems like Hair was doing his job and batting for the little guys for a change. I'd be amazed if two G5's get in. And I think BYU is screwed with the way they schedule. It might be their best interest to call the AAC.

Why.  BYU would be better off to join the MWC and get on the opposite side of Boise.   Run their schedule and beat Boise in the Championship Game and they are likely in.   

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20 minutes ago, sactowndog said:

Why.  BYU would be better off to join the MWC and get on the opposite side of Boise.   Run their schedule and beat Boise in the Championship Game and they are likely in.   

MWC has 12 teams already.

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23 minutes ago, sactowndog said:

Why.  BYU would be better off to join the MWC and get on the opposite side of Boise.   Run their schedule and beat Boise in the Championship Game and they are likely in.   

Except they have to get past the aac too.    There’s the rub for any MWC team.

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Imagine if a G5 wins the national championship (or even goes far in beating the blue bloods).  The social-economic mobility potential is there.  Potential for better media deals.  More fans.  More recruits.

If they mess with the Hawaii exemption (Week Zero) to fit in a 12 game season, hope the NCAA throws us another bone.  Week -1?

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2 hours ago, Ibanez said:

MWC has 12 teams already.

Really?  Obviously if we had the chance to add BYU, we would look to North Texas or someone to add with them.   

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2 hours ago, Did I hear a WOOSH? said:

Except they have to get past the aac too.    There’s the rub for any MWC team.

If they go undefeated the AAC team will have one loss for sure.  

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