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Just now, BSUTOP25 said:

Well well well, waiting for one of your team members to come along and scream “STRAWMAN!!!!!” :D

See how the wide libertarian net catches both left & right at times  :cheers:

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5 minutes ago, UNLV2001 said:

Right wingers want the USA to be country 81 on that list............would think the libertarian types would be against that happening :unsure:

 

Nobody wants that.  At least that I know.  "Religious freedom" is the right winger talking point, remember.

 

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Just now, BSUTOP25 said:

Only by those who don’t know the difference between ethnicity and race. 

Whatever people see about Jewish people, it's haunted them for centuries & on multiple continents :(

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3 minutes ago, halfmanhalfbronco said:

 

Nobody wants that.  At least that I know.  "Religious freedom" is the right winger talking point, remember.

 

Not sure you are paying attention & how the USA & CONSTITUTION are BASED on CHRISTIANITY - hell even the beloved 2nd Amendment is claimed to be a GOD GIVEN RIGHT  

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5 minutes ago, halfmanhalfbronco said:

 

Nobody wants that.  At least that I know.  "Religious freedom" is the right winger talking point, remember.

 

And what president of what party signed the Muslim travel ban :hmmm: 

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1 minute ago, UNLV2001 said:

And what president of what party signed the Muslim travel ban :hmmm: 

So which state religion do we go with?  Catholicism?  That would seem to hinder Roe V Wade.  Calvinism?  Scientology?  

Just like with race, with religion the US is the most accepting country in the world.

  

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6 minutes ago, halfmanhalfbronco said:

 

Nobody wants that.  At least that I know.  "Religious freedom" is the right winger talking point, remember.

 

Actually religious freedom as long is it's one of the mainline christian religions............not them other religions like IsLAM & MoosLim 

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2 minutes ago, UNLV2001 said:

Whatever people see about Jewish people, it's haunted them for centuries & on multiple continents :(

I’ve never understood the hatred of Jewish people. It makes no sense other than scapegoat application of a society’s shortcomings, like what happened in Central Europe in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Dislike of the Israeli government and its policies is one thing but hatred of an entire ethnicity is another. 

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1 minute ago, UNLV2001 said:

Actually religious freedom as long is it's one of the mainline christian religions............not them other religions like IsLAM & MoosLim 

Yeah, no.  Half the country does not want to persecute muslims.  Try again.

 

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30 minutes ago, BSUTOP25 said:

Not necessarily. Jews are not just classified as a religious group but can also identified as an ethnicity. Also, not all Jews are followers of Judaism. And not all who follow Judaism are ethnic Jews. 

Furthermore, the monarch of England is literally the head of the church of England.

Is England a theocracy?

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1 minute ago, UNLV2001 said:

Actually religious freedom as long is it's one of the mainline christian religions............not them other religions like IsLAM & MoosLim 

I believe a vast majority of us on this board prefer a secular government that allows for religious expression. 

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Just now, halfmanhalfbronco said:

So which state religion do we go with?  Catholicism?  That would seem to hinder Roe V Wade.  Calvinism?  Scientology?  

Just like with race, with religion the US is the most accepting country in the world.

  

Wasa time when catholics were seen as not so great...........Remember the kerfuffle JFK had in '59, that he would be more beholden to the Pope than the US Constitution ?!?!

Think more protestant to baptist 

Was a time period in the western world where even Kings couldn't do anything without the Pope's permission..........Ol' King Hank 8 had to go start his own church of England outside the Catholic Church just to split with his wives..............and of course that started a centuries old snit that still echoes in Ireland to this day 

 

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Just now, UNLV2001 said:

Wasa time when catholics were seen as not so great...........Remember the kerfuffle JFK had in '59, that he would be more beholden to the Pope than the US Constitution ?!?!

Think more protestant to baptist 

Was a time period in the western world where even Kings couldn't do anything without the Pope's permission..........Ol' King Hank 8 had to go start his own church of England outside the Catholic Church just to split with his wives..............and of course that started a centuries old snit that still echoes in Ireland to this day 

 

 

Yeah, was a time.

I bet with your views on race and religion you would love to get back to them good ole days.

It's a good thing the rest of the country is more liberal than you in both regards.

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4 minutes ago, BSUTOP25 said:

I’ve never understood the hatred of Jewish people. It makes no sense other than scapegoat application of a society’s shortcomings, like what happened in Central Europe in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Dislike of the Israeli government and its policies is one thing but hatred of an entire ethnicity is another. 

Yeah - For whatever reason, history has tagged Jews with perceived "issues" that span all kinds of nefarious doin's ?!?!

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1 minute ago, happycamper said:

Furthermore, the monarch of England is literally the head of the church of England.

Is England a theocracy?

No it’s not. It’s a constitutional monarchy with parliamentary style governance. In England, and throughout the UK, citizens are not obligated to be a member of the Church of England. Nor is the government beholden to the Church. 

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5 minutes ago, halfmanhalfbronco said:

Yeah, no.  Half the country does not want to persecute muslims.  Try again.

 

Didn't say half the country, ut I'll give you 70+% of republicans - which fortunately for America is way less than half !! 

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Just now, UNLV2001 said:

Yeah - For whatever reason, history has tagged Jews with perceived "issues" that span all kinds of nefarious doin's ?!?!

My philosophy is to love everyone no matter their race, ethnicity, religion, sex/identity, or nationality. Except Californians, +++++ them.

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6 minutes ago, BSUTOP25 said:

I believe a vast majority of us on this board prefer a secular government that allows for religious expression. 

Fine with me, just don't knock on my door about it or have to mention your particular deity when being recruited or ending a political speech 

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1 minute ago, UNLV2001 said:

Didn't say half the country, ut I'll give you 70+% of republicans - which fortunately for America is way less than half !! 

I live in Idaho and have never had a conversation with a Republican who advocated for persecuting Muslims.  

 

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3 minutes ago, BSUTOP25 said:

No it’s not. It’s a constitutional monarchy with parliamentary style governance. In England, and throughout the UK, citizens are not obligated to be a member of the Church of England. Nor is the government beholden to the Church. 

Was the USSR under Lenin a theocracy?

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