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An interesting twist on civil asset forfeiture

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4 hours ago, modestobulldog said:

When is this country going to remove the stain the unconstitutional practice of civil asset forfeiture.

 

 

Great post.

Leading up to the civil war and during, the government of the time seized private property, munitions, and demanded lodging from soldiers.  In retrospect, the framers had great guilt over this and that guilt was built into the constitution and written about extensively, in many ways the Bill of Rights is analogous to the rainbow of Noah.

 

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9434405/FBI-raided-Beverly-Hills-safety-deposit-box-business-prompting-customers-call-unconstitutional.html

On 4/11/2021 at 11:40 PM, Joe from WY said:

Part of me wants to go set something up similar because I honestly don't get how they can shut the whole thing down because one or two shady people might be using it.

Sounds like the business themselves (US Private Vaults) was doing some laundering and drug dealing and f+++++ over their clientele by doing so.

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In the indictment, a federal grand jury charged U.S. Private Vaults with three counts: conspiracy to launder money, conspiracy to distribute controlled substances and conspiracy to structure transactions. 

Since the boxes are technically the Vaults property and rented out, how does this work?  It's like a real-life legal Schrodinger's Cat.

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On 4/11/2021 at 6:54 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said:

 

Great post.

Leading up to the civil war and during, the government of the time seized private property, munitions, and demanded lodging from soldiers.  In retrospect, the framers had great guilt over this and that guilt was built into the constitution and written about extensively, in many ways the Bill of Rights is analogous to the rainbow of Noah.

 

Civil war!?

Remember that every argument you have with someone on MWCboard is actually the continuation of a different argument they had with someone else also on MWCboard. 

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On 4/11/2021 at 6:50 PM, soupslam1 said:

Along with that do the police ever clean up after they ransack someone’s home looking for drugs or whatever incriminating evidence? 

Nope. They teargas your house, you're +++++ed. Whether it was the right house or not.

Planning is an exercise of power, and in a modern state much real power is suffused with boredom. The agents of planning are usually boring; the planning process is boring; the implementation of plans is always boring. In a democracy boredom works for bureaucracies and corporations as smell works for skunk. It keeps danger away. Power does not have to be exercised behind the scenes. It can be open. The audience is asleep. The modern world is forged amidst our inattention.

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On 4/14/2021 at 1:52 PM, Maynard Delecto said:

I just have to LOL at you guys.

You begged the govt. for their benefits and services. You begged the govt for protection. You are getting what you asked for, stop complaining already.

 

 

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicksibilla/2020/12/22/congressman-introduces-new-bill-to-abolish-civil-forfeiture/?sh=1f0b3b50285d

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Rep. Justin Amash, the nation’s sole Libertarian congressman, introduced a bill on Thursday that would prohibit the federal government from using civil forfeiture, which lets law enforcement take cash, cars, and other valuables from people never charged with a crime. Since 2000, the U.S. Department of Justice and the Treasury Department have collectively forfeited at least $45.7 billion in revenue, according to a new report by the Institute for Justice.  

“Civil asset forfeiture is a due process violation, and it always has been,” Rep. Amash said. “Its history is riddled with injustices not because it’s a valid practice that gets misused, but because its central premise—denying people their procedural rights—is inherently flawed.”

What happened to that bill, I wonder?

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On 4/13/2021 at 8:02 PM, smltwnrckr said:

Nope. They teargas your house, you're +++++ed. Whether it was the right house or not.

Yup, cops in Colorado a few years ago chased a shoplifter into someone’s home where he holed up for a 6 hour stand off. Cops finally went in and destroyed the house in the process. Home owner sued the city and lost.

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Try and draw me in all you want, it ain't happening for a while. You guys just have too hard of a time admitting you been had by ole kuz. 

You start circling the wagons, tip over, and circle some more till the wheels fall completely off. Makes ole kuz feel bad.

 

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