crixus Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Court locks up Putin’s foe despite threat of protests and international condemnation. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/02/russian-opposition-leader-alexei-navalny-jailed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whats Up Doc Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 I'm not surprised. Putin has never been one to put up with dissension. He's using the dictatorial playbook. At least he's alive. For now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crixus Posted February 2, 2021 Author Share Posted February 2, 2021 Somebody needs to take Putin out, and I don't mean to a picnic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsu_alum9 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Why isn't there a Glenn Greenwald story on the corruption Navalny is trying to expose? Or a story about how Navalny is innocent of the 2013 charges and why those should be thrown out? The violated terms of parole for leaving the country for medical treatment resulting from being poisoned seems totally ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 23 minutes ago, crixus said: Somebody needs to take Putin out, and I don't mean to a picnic. Yeah, regime change has proven to be GREAT foreign policy. Russia will always have a Tsar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crixus Posted February 2, 2021 Author Share Posted February 2, 2021 12 hours ago, halfmanhalfbronco said: Yeah, regime change has proven to be GREAT foreign policy. Russia will always have a Tsar. I have a Russian friend named Yulia who I met at a rugby match in San Diego a few years ago and we've kept in touch online. He's since moved his family out of Russia and they now reside in Poland. He say's things were better under Gorbachev. He's lived through both eras so I believe him. Putin has been bad news since his KGB days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetropolitanCowboy Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. I’m surprised he hasn’t been found to have committed suicide by shooting himself in the head 1000x and then have jumped from the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
son of a gun Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 6 hours ago, MetropolitanCowboy said: Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. I’m surprised he hasn’t been found to have committed suicide by shooting himself in the head 1000x and then have jumped from the window. That tends to be journalists that are slightly critical of Putin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawlorfaithful Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 How did everything, everywhere become so +++++ing stupid. https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-56181084?__twitter_impression=true Amnesty International has stripped the Russian opposition politician Alexei Navalny of his "prisoner of conscience" status after it says it was "bombarded" with complaints highlighting xenophobic comments that he has made in the past and not renounced. A spokesman for the human rights organisation in Moscow told the BBC that he believed the wave of requests to "de-list" Navalny was part of an "orchestrated campaign" to discredit Vladimir Putin's most vocal critic and "impede" Amnesty's calls for his release from custody. But on review, Amnesty International concluded that comments made by Navalny some 15 years ago, including a video which appears to compare immigrants to cockroaches, amounted to "hate speech" which was incompatible with the label "prisoner of conscience". Alexei Navalny, who was almost killed in a nerve agent attack last year, is now serving a prison sentence widely seen as punishment for his opposition activism and big-splash investigations into the corrupt lives of Russia's rich and powerful. "We had too many requests; we couldn't ignore them," spokesman Alexander Artemev told the BBC, explaining that the team initially discounted Navalny's previous statements - which he has not repeated - as "not relevant" in the light of his current, political persecution. We’re all sitting in the dugout. Thinking we should pitch. How you gonna throw a shutout when all you do is bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renoskier Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 19 minutes ago, thelawlorfaithful said: How did everything, everywhere become so +++++ing stupid. https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-56181084?__twitter_impression=true Amnesty International has stripped the Russian opposition politician Alexei Navalny of his "prisoner of conscience" status after it says it was "bombarded" with complaints highlighting xenophobic comments that he has made in the past and not renounced. A spokesman for the human rights organisation in Moscow told the BBC that he believed the wave of requests to "de-list" Navalny was part of an "orchestrated campaign" to discredit Vladimir Putin's most vocal critic and "impede" Amnesty's calls for his release from custody. But on review, Amnesty International concluded that comments made by Navalny some 15 years ago, including a video which appears to compare immigrants to cockroaches, amounted to "hate speech" which was incompatible with the label "prisoner of conscience". Alexei Navalny, who was almost killed in a nerve agent attack last year, is now serving a prison sentence widely seen as punishment for his opposition activism and big-splash investigations into the corrupt lives of Russia's rich and powerful. "We had too many requests; we couldn't ignore them," spokesman Alexander Artemev told the BBC, explaining that the team initially discounted Navalny's previous statements - which he has not repeated - as "not relevant" in the light of his current, political persecution. What do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawlorfaithful Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 9 minutes ago, renoskier said: What do you mean? You mean other than Amnesty International shrinking away from advocating for a political prisoner because he had opinions once upon a time? We’re all sitting in the dugout. Thinking we should pitch. How you gonna throw a shutout when all you do is bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smltwnrckr Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 On 2/2/2021 at 3:22 PM, bsu_alum9 said: Why isn't there a Glenn Greenwald story on the corruption Navalny is trying to expose? Or a story about how Navalny is innocent of the 2013 charges and why those should be thrown out? The violated terms of parole for leaving the country for medical treatment resulting from being poisoned seems totally ridiculous. Cuz Greenwald only cares about his own personal grievances anymore. "OHHZ NOOEEZZ, MY OLD EDITORS ARE MEANIES!" Planning is an exercise of power, and in a modern state much real power is suffused with boredom. The agents of planning are usually boring; the planning process is boring; the implementation of plans is always boring. In a democracy boredom works for bureaucracies and corporations as smell works for skunk. It keeps danger away. Power does not have to be exercised behind the scenes. It can be open. The audience is asleep. The modern world is forged amidst our inattention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smltwnrckr Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 37 minutes ago, thelawlorfaithful said: How did everything, everywhere become so +++++ing stupid. https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-56181084?__twitter_impression=true Amnesty International has stripped the Russian opposition politician Alexei Navalny of his "prisoner of conscience" status after it says it was "bombarded" with complaints highlighting xenophobic comments that he has made in the past and not renounced. A spokesman for the human rights organisation in Moscow told the BBC that he believed the wave of requests to "de-list" Navalny was part of an "orchestrated campaign" to discredit Vladimir Putin's most vocal critic and "impede" Amnesty's calls for his release from custody. But on review, Amnesty International concluded that comments made by Navalny some 15 years ago, including a video which appears to compare immigrants to cockroaches, amounted to "hate speech" which was incompatible with the label "prisoner of conscience". Alexei Navalny, who was almost killed in a nerve agent attack last year, is now serving a prison sentence widely seen as punishment for his opposition activism and big-splash investigations into the corrupt lives of Russia's rich and powerful. "We had too many requests; we couldn't ignore them," spokesman Alexander Artemev told the BBC, explaining that the team initially discounted Navalny's previous statements - which he has not repeated - as "not relevant" in the light of his current, political persecution. UGH. Planning is an exercise of power, and in a modern state much real power is suffused with boredom. The agents of planning are usually boring; the planning process is boring; the implementation of plans is always boring. In a democracy boredom works for bureaucracies and corporations as smell works for skunk. It keeps danger away. Power does not have to be exercised behind the scenes. It can be open. The audience is asleep. The modern world is forged amidst our inattention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsu_alum9 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 28 minutes ago, Bob said: Yulia is a woman's name Also the name of Alexie Navalny's wife. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yulia_Navalnaya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 1 hour ago, thelawlorfaithful said: How did everything, everywhere become so +++++ing stupid. https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-56181084?__twitter_impression=true Amnesty International has stripped the Russian opposition politician Alexei Navalny of his "prisoner of conscience" status after it says it was "bombarded" with complaints highlighting xenophobic comments that he has made in the past and not renounced. A spokesman for the human rights organisation in Moscow told the BBC that he believed the wave of requests to "de-list" Navalny was part of an "orchestrated campaign" to discredit Vladimir Putin's most vocal critic and "impede" Amnesty's calls for his release from custody. But on review, Amnesty International concluded that comments made by Navalny some 15 years ago, including a video which appears to compare immigrants to cockroaches, amounted to "hate speech" which was incompatible with the label "prisoner of conscience". Alexei Navalny, who was almost killed in a nerve agent attack last year, is now serving a prison sentence widely seen as punishment for his opposition activism and big-splash investigations into the corrupt lives of Russia's rich and powerful. "We had too many requests; we couldn't ignore them," spokesman Alexander Artemev told the BBC, explaining that the team initially discounted Navalny's previous statements - which he has not repeated - as "not relevant" in the light of his current, political persecution. Such +++++ing BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renoskier Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 7 hours ago, thelawlorfaithful said: You mean other than Amnesty International shrinking away from advocating for a political prisoner because he had opinions once upon a time? Putin is obviously an asshole but does that automatically make this guy a saint? Other than him being in the news, and getting positive spin from the western media, I don't know, or really care, about him. For all I know he might be a bigger asshole than Putin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawlorfaithful Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 16 minutes ago, renoskier said: Putin is obviously an asshole but does that automatically make this guy a saint? Other than him being in the news, and getting positive spin from the western media, I don't know, or really care, about him. For all I know he might be a bigger asshole than Putin. Amnesty International has always advocated for a lot of people that are real POS. That’s not the point. Their purpose is not to be the arbiter of moral authority, but to speak for the persecuted and wrongly imprisoned. The stupidity here isn’t that an evil tyrant imprisoned his political opposition after failing to assassinate him. That’s standard practice. It’s the organization whose one job is to oppose such things backed down from doing so because they couldn’t tell complainers no. We’re all sitting in the dugout. Thinking we should pitch. How you gonna throw a shutout when all you do is bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 32 minutes ago, renoskier said: Putin is obviously an asshole but does that automatically make this guy a saint? Other than him being in the news, and getting positive spin from the western media, I don't know, or really care, about him. For all I know he might be a bigger asshole than Putin. Jesus dude. He is imprisoned because assassination did not work. He is a political prisoner. This would be like if Trump imprisoned Hillary and they waved it off because she called black drug users super predators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renoskier Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, halfmanhalfbronco said: Jesus dude. He is imprisoned because assassination did not work. He is a political prisoner. This would be like if Trump imprisoned Hillary and they waved it off because she called black drug users super predators. He's a prisoner because he was phucking dumb enough to go back to Russia after they tried to poison him. Why should I care? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 minute ago, renoskier said: He's a prisoner because he was phucking dumb enough to go back to Russia after they tried to poison him. Why should I care? Why should you care if imprisoning political adversaries is a thing? I mean, probably won't impact your life. But the West has long made it a point that such things will carry certain labels and be condemned in a certain manner. The fact Amnesty International revoked his status as a prisoner of conscious because they are clearly riding a wave of leftist bullshit that being imprisoned wrongly is "meh" because he took an anti immigration stance.... Just +++++ that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...