Watches

[smltwnrckr]

Was just out helping my mom look at watches for my dad as a wedding anniversary gift. Saw this (field?) watch on clearance for under $100 and grabbed it. Been meaning to try out an eco drive for a while, so this will give me a nice affordable chance to give this guy a whirl. Also adds some green to my collection. 

 

[TheSanDiegan]

On 7/20/2022 at 2:21 PM, Stealthlobo said:

I remember that story. Now that you missed that opportunity, which reference are you now waiting for? Or did your oath +++++ you to never realistically be able to buy a speedy because you can't stop buying other watches?

No idea, because the answer to the second question is "yes." 

[Stealthlobo]

On 7/21/2022 at 12:46 AM, TheSanDiegan said:

No idea, because the answer to the second question is "yes." 

Oh man that sucks. You're going to have to "update" the contract with the bump...

[TheSanDiegan]

On 7/21/2022 at 9:46 AM, Stealthlobo said:

Oh man that sucks. You're going to have to "update" the contract with the bump...

Small price to pay for how blessed I am* to have her by my side.

 

 

 

 

 

 

*85-90% of the time. The other 10-15% of the time I rather have the watch. 

[Stealthlobo]

When is @TheSanDiegan going to pull the trigger on the "Aztec" Black Bay? That strap is prime.

[TheSanDiegan]

On 7/25/2022 at 3:10 PM, Stealthlobo said:

When is @TheSanDiegan going to pull the trigger on the "Aztec" Black Bay? That strap is prime.

I check it out every 2-3 moths. I be like...

 

[Stealthlobo]

On 7/25/2022 at 7:49 PM, TheSanDiegan said:

I check it out every 2-3 moths. I be like...

 

I know how that is. I keep doing that with the ck2998 pulsometer. Was around $6k new, dropped to $3k shortly after. Now you can't find one for under $10k. I keep checking every few months though to see if the prices settle back down.

[Stealthlobo]

Which is the better chronograph? El primero sport or Speedmaster professional? 

To make it more even, I'm refering to a 'non-321' Speedmaster movement.

Even though imho it doesn't compare to the other two, I'll throw in the Daytona.

[bitteraztec]

On 7/26/2022 at 9:52 PM, Stealthlobo said:

Which is the better chronograph? El primero sport or Speedmaster professional? 

To make it more even, I'm refering to a 'non-321' Speedmaster movement.

Even though imho it doesn't compare to the other two, I'll throw in the Daytona.

Since you are building your collection I would say the Speedy.  Unless a Chrono is your top category that you want in your collection.  If not, then put the largest investments in either the grail category or into an already identified grail watch.  

[TheSanDiegan]

On 7/26/2022 at 9:52 PM, Stealthlobo said:

Which is the better chronograph? El primero sport or Speedmaster professional? 

To make it more even, I'm refering to a 'non-321' Speedmaster movement.

Even though imho it doesn't compare to the other two, I'll throw in the Daytona.

Are you comparing the movement or the watch?

The El Primero is as historic a movement as the Speedy is a watch. If we are excluding the OG Cal. 321 (and even if we weren't, tbh), than the movement award goes to Zenith (which, btw, is what powered the Daytona until ca. 2001). Go check out an El Primero under an exhibition caseback sometime... you'll spill your milkshake a little.

However, if you're to purchase just one of those, Speedmaster all day. It's place in horological chronography is unparalleled.

Lastly, for market value appreciation, IMO the Daytona is likely the best choice. 

 

[Stealthlobo]

On 7/27/2022 at 8:57 AM, bitteraztec said:

Since you are building your collection I would say the Speedy.  Unless a Chrono is your top category that you want in your collection.  If not, then put the largest investments in either the grail category or into an already identified grail watch.  

A big part of me wants the chronograph to be my big grail watch and save for a precious metal Speedmaster in like 30 years (platinum 321 or yg 3861 ) and get the zenith sooner.

Other part wants me knows that no collection is complete without a speedy and wants a new 3861 or slightly used ck2998 now.

[Stealthlobo]

On 7/27/2022 at 9:18 AM, TheSanDiegan said:

Are you comparing the movement or the watch?

The El Primero is as historic a movement as the Speedy is a watch. If we are excluding the OG Cal. 321 (and even if we weren't, tbh), than the movement award goes to Zenith (which, btw, is what powered the Daytona until ca. 2001). Go check outsee an El Primero under an exhibition caseback sometime... you'll spill your milkshake a little.

However, if you're to purchase just of those, Speedmaster all day. It's place in horological chronography is unparalleled.

Lastly, for market value appreciation, IMP the Daytona is likely the best choice. 

 

That's good info to see how each 'watch' and 'movement' is viewed from an horology stand point. I've tried on the white dial El primero and the movement is amazing looking, except I don't like star that much because it reminds me of the dallas cowboys (ugh). 

[TheSanDiegan]

On 7/27/2022 at 9:59 AM, Stealthlobo said:

That's good info to see how each 'watch' and 'movement' is viewed from an horology stand point. I've tried on the white dial El primero and the movement is amazing looking, except I don't like star that much because it reminds me of the dallas cowboys (ugh). 

Tbh I think the chronomter grade decorated movements they supplied to Concord and Rolex were far sexier - as seen through the Impresario's casebook (posted upthread):

Zenith is a haute horlogerie maker to be sure, but IMHO their watches have never hit that aesthetic sweet spot of so many others.

[Stealthlobo]

Great Teddy video explaing the GMT for those interested:

 

[NMpackalum]

I thought I kicked the habit but I just preordered the all metal CasiOak G-Shock. I never thought I’d want one but it looks cooler than the real AP RO.

[bitteraztec]

@Stealthlobo post a picture of your Hamilton if you still have it.

[TheSanDiegan]

On 7/30/2022 at 7:31 AM, NMpackalum said:

I thought I kicked the habit but I just preordered the all metal CasiOak G-Shock. I never thought I’d want one but it looks cooler than the real AP RO.

Having held several APROs in the hand I just can't see spending the money. 

[Stealthlobo]

On 7/30/2022 at 8:39 AM, bitteraztec said:

@Stealthlobo post a picture of your Hamilton if you still have it.

Sold it awhile ago to buy the Skyflake, but here's an old pic of it with my Bb58 and my old Movado.

[bitteraztec]

On 7/29/2022 at 8:08 AM, Stealthlobo said:

Great Teddy video explaing the GMT for those interested:

 

I’ve been watching his videos recently.  I like the contrast he and  Kevin O’Leary provide on those segments.

[RebelAlliance]

On 7/26/2022 at 11:52 PM, Stealthlobo said:

Which is the better chronograph? El primero sport or Speedmaster professional? 

To make it more even, I'm refering to a 'non-321' Speedmaster movement.

Even though imho it doesn't compare to the other two, I'll throw in the Daytona.

If I could get access to the Daytona at MSRP, I would buy it....

...and then flip it and buy the other two with the profit.

Personally, I don't think you can go wrong with either the Speedy or Zenith.  The Speedy with the new metas certified co-axial escapement movement would probably be my choice, but I'm an Omega fan, so take that for what it's worth.