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34 minutes ago, RebelRobert said:

Are you saying that they built the stadium and are unable to get the seats inside when the turf is out?  Please tell me you are joking if this is what you mean.

They can’t put the end zone seats in with the grass outside???

How did they take the picture if what you are saying is true? 

They can get the seats installed whenever they want and are willing to absorb the added expense.  That's a lot of labor to move the seats to where they are stored, particularly when the natural grass turf is outside.

When I looked at the Stadium Use Agreement, it looks like the Stadium Authority has to pay for the process of transitioning between UNLV configuration and Raider configuration (it's not part of the operating costs that UNLV has to pay for), and what incentive do they have to absorb all that extra overtime cost and delay to move in a few thousand seats when there are going to be tens of thousands of empty seats?

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3 minutes ago, BleedRebelRed said:

They can get the seats installed whenever they want and are willing to absorb the added expense.  That's a lot of labor to move the seats to where they are stored, particularly when the natural grass turf is outside.

When I looked at the Stadium Use Agreement, it looks like the Stadium Authority has to pay for the process of transitioning between UNLV configuration and Raider configuration (it's not part of the operating costs that UNLV has to pay for), and what incentive do they have to absorb all that extra overtime cost and delay to move in a few thousand seats when there are going to be tens of thousands of empty seats?

Pride in doing what is right.  That is the incentive.  
 

or we could choose laziness, incompetence and disrespect.

which do you think should be chosen?

easy way out or doing what is right?

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6 hours ago, RebelRobert said:

If that is the reasoning behind this it makes it even worse than incompetence.  Willfully hurting the program!

If you can't afford to play in the Raiders stadium...  PLAY AT SAM BOYD!  If you are going to play in the Raiders Stadium, do it correctly.  Amateur hour bull$hit.

Unacceptable.  Whoever approved it should be removed immediately before anymore damage is done to the athletic department.  Knowingly hurting the Football program can't be allowed.

Honestly, besides not being on campus (a big deal) Sam Boyd is not a bad college venue.

UNLV playing at the Raiders Stadium is going to be a lot like Tulane playing at the New Orleans Saints stadium.   It was terrible.  Tulane is just now recovering. 

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3 minutes ago, #1Stunner said:

Honestly, besides not being on campus (a big deal) Sam Boyd is not a bad college venue.

UNLV playing at the Raiders Stadium is going to be a lot like Tulane playing at the New Orleans Saints stadium.   It was terrible.  Tulane is just now recovering. 

Yeah, if it was up to me I would go back to Sam Boyd until an on-campus option could be figured out and built.

Not up to me though.  So we will play in an empty Raider stadium where we are disrespected and forced to beg permission just to lose.

Municipal Monstrosity - saw it coming

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3 minutes ago, RebelRobert said:

Yeah, if it was up to me I would go back to Sam Boyd until an on-campus option could be figured out and built.

Not up to me though.  So we will play in an empty Raider stadium where we are disrespected and forced to beg permission just to lose.

Municipal Monstrosity - saw it coming

Nevada is honestly a moronic State.

They throw money to the PRIVATE OWNED Raiders with a tax payer funded Stadium.

But then they don't invest in UNLV or the Universities in Nevada....   Henderson builds a stupid AAA Hockey arena for a PRIVATE OWNED team..   Why aren't they investing in actual State owned things, like UNLV and UNR.??? 

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14 minutes ago, #1Stunner said:

Nevada is honestly a moronic State.

They throw money to the PRIVATE OWNED Raiders with a tax payer funded Stadium.

But then they don't invest in UNLV or the Universities in Nevada....   Henderson builds a stupid AAA Hockey arena for a PRIVATE OWNED team..   Why aren't they investing in actual State owned things, like UNLV and UNR.??? 

You are making too much sense.  
Henderson could have built Nevada State University a new Basketball arena and practice facility (to join the Big West).  They could buy Sam Boyd Stadium from UNLV for $50 million and give it to Nevada State for a new FCS Football team.  But why do something that would help out actual local community schools who are struggling to grow?

The taxpayers money alone should be enough to get the UNLV end zone seats in the stadium but it is a lot of hard work and we wouldnt want to put in all that effort for unlv.  Just let the students sit in BFE.  Who cares, at least we saved some money.

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25 minutes ago, RebelRobert said:

You are making too much sense.  
Henderson could have built Nevada State University a new Basketball arena and practice facility.  They could buy Sam Boyd Stadium from UNLV for $50 million and give it to Nevada State for a new FCS Football team.  But why do something that would help out actual local community schools who are struggling to grow?

The taxpayers money alone should be enough to get the UNLV end zone seats in the stadium but it is a lot of hard work and we would t want to put in all that effort for unlv.  Just let the students sit in BFE.  Who cares, at least we saved some money.

Yes, I've noticed this for a while.

Compare Nevada to Utah.   Both States have a similar sized population.   

 

Nevada has basically ONLY 2 schools.  Look at how Nevada spends its money: 

UNR - 21,000 students,

UNLV - 31,000 students

Both schools are underfunded.   They should both be higher academically too.   Lots of Nevadans attend out of State for undergrad and graduate school, because both schools are lacking...  The State won't fund these 2 flagships.

Instead, Nevada throws billions at an NFL stadium, millions at a hockey venue, and other dumb projects.   Always to benefit private companies and tourists, but not Nevadans..

 

Now look at where the State of Utah spends its money (which leads to jobs):

Utah State - 27,000 students   (quality on campus stadium and arena)

Weber State - 26,000 students   (quality on campus stadium and arena for FCS)

Utah - 32,000 students   (quality on campus stadium and arena)

UVU - 41,000 students   (quality on campus arena -- they elect not to start football)

SUU - 11,000 students   (quality on campus stadium and arena for FCS)

Dixie -- 11,000 students   (quality on campus stadium and arena for FCS)

There is also BYU (private...but 34,000 students)

 

Result. 

Utah has a diversified economy.  Silicon Slopes Tech Sector is emerging and booming.   Much stronger health care---University of Utah has a solid cancer center.  Entrepreneurs starting new billion dollar companies, who then are boosters for local colleges.

Nevada is not diversified.  Has a tourism and new construction economy that is either boom or bust.   Poor health care options (people go to Los Angeles for medical care).  Little pride in local schools like UNLV

Nevada needs to spend more on the State----not the stupid pro teams.  Most Nevadans won't be attending 8 Raiders games per year.....

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3 minutes ago, #1Stunner said:

Yes, I've noticed this for a while.

Compare Nevada to Utah.   Both States have a similar population.   

 

Nevada has basically ONLY 2 schools.  Look at how Nevada spends its money: 

UNR - 21,000 students,

UNLV - 31,000 students

Both schools are underfunded.   They should both be higher academically too.   Lots of Nevadans attend out of State for undergrad and graduate school, because both schools are lacking...

Instead, Nevada throws billions at an NFL stadium, millions at a hockey venue, and other dumb projects.   Always to benefit private companies and tourists, but not Nevadans..

 

Now look at where the State of Utah spends its money:

Utah State - 27,000 students   (quality on campus stadium and arena)

Weber State - 26,000 students   (quality on campus stadium and arena for FCS)

Utah - 32,000 students   (quality on campus stadium and arena)

UVU - 41,000 students   (quality on campus arena)

SUU - 11,000 students   (quality on campus stadium and arena for FCS)

Dixie -- 11,000 students   (quality on campus stadium and arena for FCS)

There is also BYU (private...but 34,000 students)

 

Result. 

Utah has a diversified economy.  Silicon Slopes Tech Sector is emerging.   Much strong health care.  Entrepreneurs starting new billion dollar companies, who then are boosters for local colleges.

Nevada is not diversified.  Has a tourism and new construction economy that is either boom or bust.   Poor health care options (people go to Los Angeles for medical care).  

Nevada needs to spend more on the State----not the stupid pro teams.

I disagree a little bit.  Golden Knights cost us nothing and MGM built the arena.  Getting them opened the door to major events like the super bowl and college national championship in Vegas.  Golden knights were huge for Las Vegas and re-proved we could support big time athletics (which unlv already proved in the 90’s).

Every penny spent on the Raiders was worth it!  Another 2 Billion and it still would be worth it.  Raiders is the best thing that ever happened to Las Vegas and will help lead to that diversity that you are talking about.  Raiders make Las Vegas legit nationally.

The triple AAA baseball stadium was a waste of money.  The minor league hockey is a waste of money!

UNLV is building a Medical School.

I don’t like the comparison between Nevada and wacky Utah with all the weird Mormons and their crazy ideas.  A better comparison for Nevada has always been Arizona.  Watch ASU and that is UNLV about 25 years behind.

 

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5 minutes ago, RebelRobert said:

I disagree a little bit.  Golden Knights cost us nothing and MGM built the arena.  Getting them opened the door to major events like the super bowl and college national championship in Vegas.  Golden knights were huge for Las Vegas and re-proved we could support big time athletics (which unlv already proved in the 90’s).

Every penny spent on the Raiders was worth it!  Another 2 Billion and it still would be worth it.  Raiders is the best thing that ever happened to Las Vegas and will help lead to that diversity that you are talking about.  Raiders make Las Vegas legit nationally.

The triple AAA baseball stadium was a waste of money.  The minor league hockey is a waste of money!

UNLV is building a Medical School.

I don’t like the comparison between Nevada and wacky Utah with all the weird Mormons and their crazy ideas.  A better comparison for Nevada has always been Arizona.  Watch ASU and that is UNLV about 25 years behind.

 

Let me be clear. 

I have no problem with pro teams in general.  Utah benefits a lot from the Jazz.  But the Jazz, like the Golden Knights, built their own arena.  It was only tax money for the land, and stuff.   That's fine.

But, I think the jury is out on if it was a great thing for Nevada to give BILLIONS to the Raiders.   For what?  8 home games per year?

Maybe Nevada is unique, in that it is the host of so many tournaments and events.  So a major venue was needed to be able to host events.   That could help bring events.

 

But regardless.   You can dis on Mormons all you want, but the State of Utah has a diversified economy, which has originated out of the investment of the Universities.   Billion Dollar Tech companies are giving a lot  of good jobs.  Where Las Vegas is always boom and bust---new Construction or Tourism....that's your industries. .

Nevada has 2 very underfunded Universities.  Only having 2 real Universities in Nevada is odd to say the least.

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6 minutes ago, #1Stunner said:

Let me be clear. 

I have no problem with pro teams in general.  Utah benefits a lot from the Jazz.  But the Jazz, like the Golden Knights, built their own arena.  It was only tax money for the land, and stuff.   That's fine.

But, I think the jury is out on if it was a great thing for Nevada to give BILLIONS to the Raiders.   For what?  8 home games per year?

Maybe Nevada is unique, in that it is the host of so many tournaments and events.  So a major venue was needed to be able to host events.

 

But regardless.   You can dis on Mormons all you want, but the State of Utah has a diversified economy, which has originated at of the investment of the Universities.   Billion Dollar Tech companies are giving a lot  of good jobs.  Where Las Vegas is always boom and bust.

Nevada has 2 very underfunded Universities.  Only having 2 real Universities in Nevada is odd to say the least.

If Nevada enacted a 5% personal income tax I am sure we would have more than enough money for schools.  Or taxed casinos at 20%. Or made mining pay their fair share for raping our state.

Only a matter of time until enough Cali people get to Vegas to take total control of the legislature and fix the tax structure to make Nevada a real player.

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What am I missing here? Why can’t they leave all the seats in permanent? If it’s because of a sod grass field, why weren’t provisions made for moving it in and out without removing the seats. Or have a retractable dome? That sounds like a design error. It’s dumb having to move the seats in and out for every game. 

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The end zone issue is common in the Covid era, no fans allowed in arenas/stadiums. I’ve watched several games in other sports and they don’t install seating around the boards in hockey, same for basketball etc. 

It may be due to staff shortage where they let go a lot of of the arena/stadium workers and may be working with a skeleton crew. 

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18 hours ago, RebelRobert said:

Pride in doing what is right.  That is the incentive.  
 

or we could choose laziness, incompetence and disrespect.

which do you think should be chosen?

easy way out or doing what is right?

What not just put a couple dozen lawn chairs in the end zone?  That would be plenty of seats for your student section. 

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2 hours ago, Aslowhiteguy said:

What not just put a couple dozen lawn chairs in the end zone?  That would be plenty of seats for your student section. 

Good point. There's got to be at least 24 students who want to see the inside of the new Raider stadium.

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On 1/15/2021 at 10:19 PM, soupslam1 said:

What am I missing here? Why can’t they leave all the seats in permanent? If it’s because of a sod grass field, why weren’t provisions made for moving it in and out without removing the seats. Or have a retractable dome? That sounds like a design error. It’s dumb having to move the seats in and out for every game. 

The grass field is on a mechanical tray that slides on/off field so it can get proper sunlight outside...the tray structure is about 5 feet tall and weighs 10,000 tons so it does require some effort to facilitate the end zone to open up to slide in&out over the artificial turf. It was designed to get seats on the endzone right up to the field for both fields...it's either because of COVID-19 precautions or penny pinching to why they're f*cking over the students by backing up their seating in no man's land. 

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On 1/15/2021 at 1:17 PM, RebelRobert said:

Sorry but I have to complain a little bit about UNLV administration and their terrible decision making.  It looks as though UNLV has decided to play in the new Allegiant Stadium without the end zone seating being installed in the south end zone.  This is a miserable decision because it is not only aesthetically unpleasing to look at but that is also the section where our student seating is located.  Without students sitting right on top of the field in the end zone our home field advantage will be dramatically reduced.  I feel this is a poor administrative decision and should be corrected immediately.

Take a look at what the stadium should look like, and what UNLV is actually planning as per their season ticket brochure release.

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13 minutes ago, Bronco7454 said:

Personally I could not care less when someone says "I FEEL".................I am only interested in what someone THINKS...............not what they "feel"................ Karen

You left some FEELINGS in that post, chud. 

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