Spot50B Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 16 minutes ago, Fowl said: I'm miffed why Boise fans aren't excited about Choate (assuming he's the guy). His HC record is great and he's got lots of experience at lots of top schools under great HC's. He'd be a great HC for any school in the conference. He's got more HC experience than any of the other candidates. I get why fans would be fired up for the former star QB to come back but the guy has never coached in college nor has he been a HC which is a much different job than being a coordinator. His HC record is 28-22 and his best conference finish was third last year. Not saying he won't be good, but I disagree that his record or results have been great to this point. He has turned the school around but Craig Bohl clearly had a much better resume for an FCS coach. Weber State's coach may have a more impressive resume too. If he didn't have Boise State ties, I doubt someone in his position would be considered. Avalos, on the other hand is going to get a P5 job next year if Boise doesn't hire him. As stated before, I think both are a step up over Harsin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffkills Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Jerry’s quote is classic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsu_alum9 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Fowl said: I just noticed the picture of the plane. Only in the MW would an AD be flying around in a formerly crashed single prop plane lol. Do they reuse numbers, cuz that looks totalled. Edit. Thats not the same plane. Flight aware says Cessna 525 Citation not the Cirrus-22 in photo. Plus the speed was too high for the cirrus if you look at flight data. Real thing is like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trvitmvnz Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Avalos just looks like the mutherfcker got swagger and the kids will follow. He is my choice if im AD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsu_alum9 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Spot50B said: Maybe Choate will make MSU elite, but I don't really see that happening. They went 4-7, 5-6, 8-5 (ranked 17 FCS), then 10-2 (ranked #4 FCS). Pretty decent trajectory and elite FCS. They were ranked #5 in 2020 preseason before cancellation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupslam1 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, trvitmvnz said: Avalos just looks like the mutherfcker got swagger and the kids will follow. He is my choice if im AD I think Andy will be the guy unless He isn’t interested or Boise State feels they can’t afford him which would be a very short sighted way of looking at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingpotato Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Fowl said: I'm miffed why Boise fans aren't excited about Choate (assuming he's the guy). His HC record is great and he's got lots of experience at lots of top schools under great HC's. He'd be a great HC for any school in the conference. He's got more HC experience than any of the other candidates. I get why fans would be fired up for the former star QB to come back but the guy has never coached in college nor has he been a HC which is a much different job than being a coordinator. Yep, emotion over logic for man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spot50B Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, bsu_alum9 said: They went 4-7, 5-6, 8-5 (ranked 17 FCS), then 10-2 (ranked #4 FCS). Pretty decent trajectory and elite FCS. They were ranked #5 in 2020 preseason before cancellation. No one sees Montana State as an elite FCS team-- at least not yet. Have to at least win your conference once or twice at a bare minimum. Weber and Eastern are much more respected programs right now and they got beat by Sac State and North Dakota last year. If anything, Choate reminds me of Harsin-- at least one WTF game every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingpotato Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Spot50B said: His HC record is 28-22 and his best conference finish was third last year. Not saying he won't be good, but I disagree that his record or results have been great to this point. He has turned the school around but Craig Bohl clearly had a much better resume for an FCS coach. Weber State's coach may have a more impressive resume too. If he didn't have Boise State ties, I doubt someone in his position would be considered. Avalos, on the other hand is going to get a P5 job next year if Boise doesn't hire him. As stated before, I think both are a step up over Harsin. Bohl was a hire I didn't support (and he was an outlier cadidate for the Boise job), for the same reason I said to not hire a Montana Coach (in thier hey day). They have all the resources, culture, and momentum. Reality, is that Bohl had a winning % that was very much in line with the overall winning % of NDSU in thieir history (and they kept winning at a high rate [higher, actually] after him). Choate took over a bad program and built it. Every year they got better and were a top-5 FCS the last year he coached. And if you're gunna bring up Bohl, he was almost 20 games under .500 his first two years at Wyoming... just sayin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingpotato Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Spot50B said: No one sees Montana State as an elite FCS team-- at least not yet. Have to at least win your conference once or twice at a bare minimum. Weber and Eastern are much more respected programs right now and they got beat by Sac State and North Dakota last year. If anything, Choate reminds me of Harsin-- at least one WTF game every year. Eastern has been very good for a long time. MSU made the semifinals of the FCS for the first time in 25 years and beat the Griz (thier rival and national power) for 4 straight years for the first time in 35 years. It's very different to build a program vs sustain a program Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingpotato Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 ... and Weber (in football) has never been respected outside of Jay Hill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsu_alum9 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, kingpotato said: ... and Weber (in football) has never been respected outside of Jay Hill Jay Hill would be a solid hire - not sure why he hasn’t been mentioned. Maybe waiting for Whitt to leave Utah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalua pig Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 the new head coach's salary is the news i'm waiting for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tailingpermit Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, kalua pig said: the new head coach's salary is the news i'm waiting for. If it’s Avalos, I’d bet they’re offering 1.25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsu_alum9 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 minute ago, tailingpermit said: If it’s Avalos, I’d bet they’re offering 1.25. I’d guess that for Choate. 1.75 for Avalos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tailingpermit Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Could someone remind me what TCP was earning per year before he left, I believe it was a little over 3 but if I remember the boosters were supplementing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tailingpermit Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 minute ago, bsu_alum9 said: I’d guess that for Choate. 1.75 for Avalos. What’s Choate making now at MSU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsu_alum9 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 minute ago, tailingpermit said: Could someone remind me what TCP was earning per year before he left, I believe it was a little over 3 but if I remember the boosters were supplementing that. Pete made $2M plus a few bonuses in 2012. Harsin made $1.8 last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsu_alum9 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, tailingpermit said: What’s Choate making now at MSU? Like $300-350k. Idaho with Petrino has highest coach salary in Big Sky at 450k. Bohl went from 350k at NDSU to $1.4M and now close to $2M at Wyoming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tailingpermit Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, bsu_alum9 said: Like $300-350k. No way in hell Choate is making this big of a jump to 1.25... Avalos is at 800 right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...