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USU FB Team votes not to travel to play CSU

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2 minutes ago, NorthWestCowboy said:

How dare you apply logic and reason to this thread!  Do you not even know how to MWCBoard?

Now stop questioning and get with the program!  :pitchforks:  This thread is all about raggin on the Baggies!

My apologies. I'm rusty at this! Been away for to long.

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The googlewebs nose more details:

 

https://watchstadium.com/utah-state-players-opt-out-of-final-game-due-to-presidents-comments-12-11-2020/

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Utah State’s players have opted out of Saturday’s game at Colorado State because of comments by university President Noelle Cockett on Tuesday voicing her concerns about interim Head Coach Frank Maile’s religious and cultural background, Stadium has learned.

After Tuesday’s Zoom call with Cockett and Athletic Director John Hartwell to discuss Maile’s candidacy for the Utah State job, the team’s leadership council raised issues about Cockett’s comments regarding Maile, who is a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The players were so “dumbfounded” by Cockett’s comments that a player conducted an anonymous players-only survey asking the players if they were on the zoom call and whether they were concerned about anything they heard in the meeting.

About three-fourths of the team that responded by Thursday mentioned they were concerned about the religious bias against Maile by Cockett. The players said they don’t believe the Zoom call was recorded.

None of the players were aware of each other’s answers and responded individually.

On Friday morning, in a players-only meeting that lasted more than an hour, the players unanimously voted to not play the season finale because of these issues. The coaching staff was not aware of the players’ meeting until after its conclusion. The Aggies finished the year 1-5.

The team issued the following statement to Stadium:

“The Utah State football players have decided to opt out of our game against Colorado State due to ongoing inequality and prejudicial issues between the players, coaches, and the USU administration.

On Tuesday, December 8th, the Utah State University Football Leadership Council held a zoom meeting with Noelle Cockett, President of USU, and John Hartwell, the Athletic Director. The purpose of the meeting was to have a say in the search for our new head coach. During the meeting, we voiced our support for Interim Head Coach Frank Maile. In response to our comments, their primary concern was his religious and cultural background. Players, stating their diverse faiths and backgrounds, then jumped to Coach Frank Maile’s defense in treating everyone with love, equality, and fairness.

“It is not the first time issues of repeated discrimination have happened. In December 2019, our head equipment manager used a racial slur against one of our African-American teammates. After disregarding the incident, pressure resurfaced to investigate in the summer of 2020. After the investigation, the administration concluded he would continue to be employed.

“We want our message to be clear that this has nothing to do with the hiring of Coach Blake Anderson, the recently-named head coach of the program. We are sure he is an excellent coach; we look forward to meeting him and his staff. We are highlighting the ongoing problems of inequality and want to create a better future for the community of Logan and Utah State University.”

On Thursday, Arkansas State announced that Anderson had resigned and accepted another head coaching position. Multiple sources said Anderson had been hired at Utah State, although the Aggies have not officially announced the hiring.

Maile is a graduate of Utah State and had been an assistant for the Aggies from 2009-13 before coaching at Vanderbilt from 2014-15. In 2016, he returned to Utah State as assistant head coach and co-defensive coordinator, a position he’s held the past five seasons.

Hartwell and Cockett did not immediately respond to interview requests.

The team was scheduled to leave Logan, Utah, for Fort Collins at 4 p.m. MT Friday night."

 

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13 minutes ago, nocoolnamejim said:

Is it known what the specific comments were?
 

Hard to have an opinion on the validity of the players' protests without knowing the exact quotes.

Irrelevant. Utah States players aren’t the only ones affected 

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15 minutes ago, nocoolnamejim said:

Is it known what the specific comments were?
 

Hard to have an opinion on the validity of the players' protests without knowing the exact quotes.

They may be (and probably are) very valid.  Quitting on the coach you're protecting is childish and stupid as a protest.  This isn't about a protest.  This is an excuse to quit.

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7 minutes ago, Headbutt said:

They may be (and probably are) very valid.  Quitting on the coach you're protecting is childish and stupid as a protest.  This isn't about a protest.  This is an excuse to quit.

Sadly you may be correct.

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Well, it saves the embarrassment of another loss I suppose. What a bunch of quitters.

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. 
         ---Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759.

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1 hour ago, hickaggie said:

His chances for the job disintegrated when he forgot that AFA runs what's called a triple option with a third option called a pitch man.   Not because he's a mormon polynesion..lol

CSU had that same problem years ago when Air Force had a running back named Chad Hall. Word is that Chad Hall is still running free, somewhere in eastern Kansas by now.

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1 hour ago, Headbutt said:

Well, if she really made a disparaging comment about the Mormon church, she's gone and only employable in California.

She can always go back to cloning sheep and selling them off as life partners in Frestucky.

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33 minutes ago, Headbutt said:

They may be (and probably are) very valid.  Quitting on the coach you're protecting is childish and stupid as a protest.  This isn't about a protest.  This is an excuse to quit.

What bigger way to throw the middle finger than to go out, play your ass off, and rally around the coach. Carry him off the field if you win. 

We’re all sitting in the dugout. Thinking we should pitch. How you gonna throw a shutout when all you do is bitch.

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6 minutes ago, thelawlorfaithful said:

What bigger way to throw the middle finger than to go out, play your ass off, and rally around the coach. Carry him off the field if you win. 

That's what men would do, not whiny bitches.

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. 
         ---Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759.

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Let me get this straight: the President of a predominantly (70%+) LDS university, who has been President for 4 years and at the university for 30, came out as racist and a bigot to a random group of football players on an unrecorded Zoom call? And she has no history of this type of behavior? Not saying there's no chance this happened, but I find it very very hard to believe.

The players better have their facts straight, because if not the best case scenario is likely losing their scholarship. I'm in favor of cleaning house top to bottom if these allegations can't be proven. 

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This is beyond pathetic... if Craig Thompson doesn't do something to try and make this right, he needs to go too.  This is an effing joke of a league.  We've officially become the league of orange slices and participation ribbons if this crap is allowed to stand without some sort of repercussions.

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25 minutes ago, madmartigan said:

So Embarrassed right now 

I feel for you because this is a weird thing but you shouldn't be embarrassed. You didn't say anything allegedly out of line or vote to boycott a football game..As per the norm the fans are are the ones getting jacked around. 

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Let’s hear the exact comments in total and see what the players are so upset about. Apparently Maile is well liked by the players and may be misinterpreting why he wasn’t interviewed for the head coach job. Or, the president screwed up big time and will be fired. 

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