AndroidAggie Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 9 hours ago, Papi_chulo said: George Floyd was nothing more than a street thug but of course (((they))) are going to give the thug an exhibit. Is anybody really surprised? coded language is for cowards. speak up. who are "(((they)))", pray tell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted November 25, 2020 Author Share Posted November 25, 2020 58 minutes ago, AndroidAggie said: coded language is for cowards. speak up. who are "(((they)))", pray tell? Those dang Jews is how I read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndroidAggie Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 7 hours ago, halfmanhalfbronco said: Those dang Jews is how I read it. if it's a sock, and i'm almost positive it is, that's a pretty crappy joke either way i want them to own it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebels2k3 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 A lot of people here need to read Martin Niemoller's poem again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebels2k3 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 On 11/24/2020 at 3:14 PM, SharkTanked said: I get that a link may be made, but in the interest of serving the more germane discussion, re: race relations in America as a whole and it's impact on our society, I would think the discussion would be more appropriate here: https://washington.org/visit-dc/guide-to-smithsonian-national-museum-african-american-history-culture I think there is more value in discussing these recent events in the context or furthering race relations in America rather than trying to conjure up a fascist boogeyman. I guess I am approaching it from the viewpoint of museums should be furthering public knowledge by contextualizing historical lessons, and should stage exhibits for the maximum impact towards that cause. It would seem much more value could be made by continuing the discussion of race relations rather than the somewhat longer shot warning of fascism (which is such a long shot it may not even hit the mark, while racial relations is a real, pervasive and very currently damaging issue in American society/culture). I guess what I am saying is presenting this issue in the wrong context, or the less correct one, bastardizes the real lesson to be learned. Given America's difficulty in dealing with it's racial relations, it can be damaging too. What is more important for the country? Warning against genocide at the hands of a fascist regime (which given our construct seems highly unlikely to occur)? Or picking at the scab of the very real existent problem of racial relations that should be an ever-present discussion in our society? At best, it is misguided. At worst, it damages racial relations in this country by decontextualizing the real issue. The Holocaust Museum is private, and not owned by the Smithsonian. I get the idea but as Aggie pointed out, the Holocaust Museum goes out of their way to remind people that oppression is dangerous and can snowball quickly. It doesn't much brainpower beyond that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebels2k3 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 On 11/24/2020 at 11:57 AM, Papi_chulo said: George Floyd was nothing more than a street thug but of course (((they))) are going to give the thug an exhibit. Is anybody really surprised? When did virulent antisemitism become acceptable here? Go +++++ yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, Rebels2k3 said: The Holocaust Museum is private, and not owned by the Smithsonian. I get the idea but as Aggie pointed out, the Holocaust Museum goes out of their way to remind people that oppression is dangerous and can snowball quickly. It doesn't much brainpower beyond that. Jesus dude, learn to read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebels2k3 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, halfmanhalfbronco said: Jesus dude, learn to read. The feeling is mutual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maji Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 On 11/24/2020 at 11:57 AM, Papi_chulo said: George Floyd was nothing more than a street thug but of course (((they))) are going to give the thug an exhibit. Is anybody really surprised? That comment seems really racist and antisemitic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, Rebels2k3 said: The feeling is mutual I did not express a feeling so any mutual relation you feel, is a mistake on your part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, Maji said: That comment seems really racist and antisemitic It is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
415hawaiiboy Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 On 11/23/2020 at 1:55 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said: Not our choice but I hope we can discuss these things even so. Reactions early online from American Jews seem mixed with a majority not approving. I would also even say drawing parallels is not always productive, especially when they do not seem to exist or need to be stretched beyond reason to do so. What are the parallels between the annihaltion of European Jewry at the hands of Nazi Geremny and Floyd, in your opinion? I didn’t read the article but I see why they would do this. Just like Anti Defamation League and other organizations that may have started from an event in history a generation or two ago is pivoting to more relevant today issues. For example, the Japanese American Citizens League (JACL) which came out of civil rights era, has had to pivot to stay relevant, like speaking against family separations at the border (hardly anything to do with JA internment camps during WWII, but parallels in history about xenophobia against ethnic groups). So I understand why they do this. How can we learn from the past? That’s the beauty and power of knowing and learning from history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maji Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 23 minutes ago, Blue voodoo said: No it doesn't Nice try. ((())) is a reference to being Jewish. Quote "Of course the Jews are going to give the thug an exhibit" That doesn't seem racist to you? It's textbook racism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old_SD_Dude Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 12 minutes ago, Maji said: ((())) is a reference to being Jewish. That doesn't seem racist to you? It's textbook racism I think textbooks are Blue Voodoo’s kryptonite. Thay Haif Said: Quhat Say Thay? Lat Thame Say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugtang Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Rebels2k3 said: When did virulent antisemitism become acceptable here? Go +++++ yourself. It’s not thelawlorfaithful, on 31 Dec 2012 - 04:01 AM, said:One of the rules I live by: never underestimate a man in a dandy looking sweater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugtang Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Maji said: That comment seems really racist and antisemitic It is and has been deleted. Antisemitism is not tolerated on this board. thelawlorfaithful, on 31 Dec 2012 - 04:01 AM, said:One of the rules I live by: never underestimate a man in a dandy looking sweater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebels2k3 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 1 hour ago, mugtang said: It’s not Thanks for the cleanup! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...