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Del Scorcho

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It’s easy to make fun of BYU, however, seriously they do have a damn fine football team, their best in many years, and it’s a shame they don’t get a chance to show it against a top ten team. It’s similar to SDSUs basketball team last year not being able to go to the Dance. 

Utah should be glad they didn’t play BYU this year because the Utes would have got their ass kicked. BYU should challenge the Utes to play them at any possible open date for both teams. 

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28 minutes ago, NevadaFan said:

If BYU knew the chances of the game being not played was high it was stupid not to take the game. Either way it was stupid. Their schedule is horrendous - but not their fault. The narrative of “we’ve done everything we can” in this situation carries weight. BYU is a PR machine. It knows this. 

You're dismissing the fact that BYU had already given BYU players and coaches the week off and some had already flown home to be with their family. That is not hearsay. BYU's coach even mentioned that last night in his interview with Reece and Herbstreit. Some players with Monday evening flights had to cancel them and lose that money. Others that had flown out Sunday were booking new flights to come back to Provo. So they already had that part stacked against them. They would also have to truck their equipment out to Seattle yesterday which comes with an expense. They'd have to find an available flight to be chartered. They'd have to find hotels that would hopefully let them cancel last minute (newsflash: most don't). BYU would've incurred significant costs. 

 

Yes, "accepting" the game would've had some positive PR but BYU would've lost a lot of money and time and disruption to these kids lives that were given the week off. BYU doesn't play again until Dec 12th. That's why the players and coaches had made plans as though they were off this week. 

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3 minutes ago, TrueCoug said:

You're dismissing the fact that BYU had already given BYU players and coaches the week off and some had already flown home to be with their family. That is not hearsay. BYU's coach even mentioned that last night in his interview with Reece and Herbstreit. Some players with Monday evening flights had to cancel them and lose that money. Others that had flown out Sunday were booking new flights to come back to Provo. So they already had that part stacked against them. They would also have to truck their equipment out to Seattle yesterday which comes with an expense. They'd have to find an available flight to be chartered. They'd have to find hotels that would hopefully let them cancel last minute (newsflash: most don't). BYU would've incurred significant costs. 

 

Yes, "accepting" the game would've had some positive PR but BYU would've lost a lot of money and time and disruption to these kids lives that were given the week off. BYU doesn't play again until Dec 12th. That's why the players and coaches had made plans as though they were off this week. 

Please stop with the anyone, anywhere, anytime nonsense. 

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28 minutes ago, soupslam1 said:

Please stop with the anyone, anywhere, anytime nonsense. 

BYU genuinely thought they had worked out a game with UW. This has been confirmed. It's why Coach Kalani Sitake mentioned it on his interview with Reece and Kirk last night. It's why they pulled together any players they could round up and had a practice Monday night to specifically prepare for UW.

 

I'd say that alone backs up BYU's 'Any one, Any where, Any team' mantra. Kalani also said in his interview that they have open dates on Dec 5th and 19th and that if any teams have an actual availability to reach out. They want to play. I don't think BYU has done a single thing to suggest they're scared of anyone. This season they had originally scheduled Utah, ASU, Stanford, Missouri, Michigan State, Minnesota, Boise State and Houston for crying out loud. You think they're ducking anyone?

 

And to be honest, BYU has been praised by Herbstreit and Desmond Howard for not pounding their chests this year. They've gone 9-0 and have gone about their business without publicly demanding respect or crying foul, like UCF did several years back. The only reason the Anytime/Place/Team narrative was a thing is because our Heisman caliber QB wore a headband that said that and our social media team posted a picture of it. Otherwise, nobody at BYU has publicly said Anytime/Place/Team. BYU's been relatively quiet this year. They've taken knees on the 3 yard line with 2 minutes left in both the Navy and Troy games to not embarrass people. When our punter proactively ran a fake punt in the 4th quarter when up big, our coach ripped him a new one, apologized to the other team, and the first thing he said in his post-game interview was that he did not call a fake. 

 

Yes, I'll stick up for BYU and say they've gone about their business the right way this season. 

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1 hour ago, Del Scorcho said:

there are a couple of byu posters in this thread alone that have confirmed byu handled it poorly. You need to get past this notion that because they are byu they are incapable of making mistakes

BYU definitely handled it poorly from a PR perspective.  The AD should have been on any available sports programming saying something like "Washington knows that as soon as the game is guaranteed, we're in."  He could also have thrown in an explanation of not wanting to commit scarce resources to a game that wasn't likely to happen anyway.

The administration is more concerned about maintaining long-term relationships with potential scheduling partners than they are about scoring PR points, which is why they instead issued a bland statement about working to get games that are mutually beneficial.

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19 minutes ago, TrueCoug said:

BYU genuinely thought they had worked out a game with UW. This has been confirmed. It's why Coach Kalani Sitake mentioned it on his interview with Reece and Kirk last night. It's why they pulled together any players they could round up and had a practice Monday night to specifically prepare for UW.

 

I'd say that alone backs up BYU's 'Any one, Any where, Any team' mantra. Kalani also said in his interview that they have open dates on Dec 5th and 19th and that if any teams have an actual availability to reach out. They want to play. I don't think BYU has done a single thing to suggest they're scared of anyone. This season they had originally scheduled Utah, ASU, Stanford, Missouri, Michigan State, Minnesota, Boise State and Houston for crying out loud. You think they're ducking anyone?

 

And to be honest, BYU has been praised by Herbstreit and Desmond Howard for not pounding their chests this year. They've gone 9-0 and have gone about their business without publicly demanding respect or crying foul, like UCF did several years back. The only reason the Anytime/Place/Team narrative was a thing is because our Heisman caliber QB wore a headband that said that and our social media team posted a picture of it. Otherwise, nobody at BYU has publicly said Anytime/Place/Team. BYU's been relatively quiet this year. They've taken knees on the 3 yard line with 2 minutes left in both the Navy and Troy games to not embarrass people. When our punter proactively ran a fake punt in the 4th quarter when up big, our coach ripped him a new one, apologized to the other team, and the first thing he said in his post-game interview was that he did not call a fake. 

 

Yes, I'll stick up for BYU and say they've gone about their business the right way this season. 

The anyone, anywhere, anytime motto implies you will go out of your way to play a game with anyone. BYU just demonstrated that’s not true. Scrap the motto, it makes you look bad. It’s all bravado in any regard. 

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4 minutes ago, soupslam1 said:

The anyone, anywhere, anytime motto implies you will go out of your way to play a game with anyone. BYU just demonstrated that’s not true. Scrap the motto, it makes you look bad. 

BYU just went out of its way to bring in North Alabama for the beginning of a tremendous new rivalry and this is how you respond?  No wonder BYU went independent.  They just don't get any respect after bringing in the best teams and having the best wins. 

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1 minute ago, OrediggerPoke said:

BYU just went out of its way to bring in  Alabama for the beginning of a tremendous new rivalry and this is how you respond?  No wonder BYU went independent.  They just don't get any respect after bringing in the best teams and having the best wins. 

Now we’re talking. 

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13 minutes ago, Pelado said:

BYU definitely handled it poorly from a PR perspective.  The AD should have been on any available sports programming saying something like "Washington knows that as soon as the game is guaranteed, we're in."  He could also have thrown in an explanation of not wanting to commit scarce resources to a game that wasn't likely to happen anyway.

The administration is more concerned about maintaining long-term relationships with potential scheduling partners than they are about scoring PR points, which is why they instead issued a bland statement about working to get games that are mutually beneficial.

its unfortunate for byu's players and coaches, because I guarantee they wanted to play UW. 

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15 minutes ago, soupslam1 said:

The anyone, anywhere, anytime motto implies you will go out of your way to play a game with anyone. BYU just demonstrated that’s not true. Scrap the motto, it makes you look bad. It’s all bravado in any regard. 

BYU agreed to play and asked for some reasonable adjustments. Pac12 said no. And within 24 hours, the non-guaranteed game went away faster than it had arrived. Everyone and their mom knew Utah would end up playing UW. There was no realistic game to be played. Why are people overlooking that point? It's the most important point. 

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2 hours ago, brillio said:

If unlv were in this situation (for basketball obviously- they’d never be in talks for anything serious in football) I wouldn’t be making a huge deal like del scorcho is. I’d see that the scheduling would’ve made it so the game would’ve never happened anyway.
 

 So what’s the point? for Twitter likes?  The cfp isn’t letting them in either way 

Don’t read his posts? I think you are right. Hell... it could be argued the reason this system exists is BYUs “natty.”

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20 hours ago, TrueCoug said:

BYU agreed to play and asked for some reasonable adjustments. Pac12 said no. And within 24 hours, the non-guaranteed game went away faster than it had arrived. Everyone and their mom knew Utah would end up playing UW. There was no realistic game to be played. Why are people overlooking that point? It's the most important point. 

Washington even knew they’d be playing Utah.  This is just typical BYU boner material for the idiots.  

“Right now, we’re really in great shape,” he said. “We haven’t lost a day of preparation. Like I said, we gambled correctly this week and we put all of our attention and our game plan and our prep work at practice on the University of Utah.”

https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-husky-football/uw-huskies-coach-jimmy-lake-on-preparing-for-utah-on-short-notice-and-whether-the-apple-cup-can-still-be-played/#comments

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22 hours ago, NevadaFan said:

Don’t read his posts? I think you are right. Hell... it could be argued the reason this system exists is BYUs “natty.”

Don’t read his posts, or don’t disagree with his posts?  I’m sorry I don’t have blind hatred for all things BYU like everyone on this board.  I’d have the same reaction to any other team in their situation. 

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It seems Carson State was willing to accept Standby status for a game with CU.  Seems to have paid off.

Aztecs @ CU Saturday !

This is the outcome of BYU Superiority Complex.

"We don't have evidence but, we have lot's of theories."

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47 minutes ago, Del Scorcho said:

wow, sure seemed easy for San Diego St to pull this off last minute

 

From what I've read in the tweet stream, SDSU was willing to go into standby mode pending a decision from USC.

BY-Who figured they were above that. See how two bye weeks without fb sets with the base. They going to be so Rusty when Carson State blows into town.

 

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On 11/25/2020 at 11:29 AM, TrueCoug said:

You're dismissing the fact that BYU had already given BYU players and coaches the week off and some had already flown home to be with their family. That is not hearsay. BYU's coach even mentioned that last night in his interview with Reece and Herbstreit. Some players with Monday evening flights had to cancel them and lose that money. Others that had flown out Sunday were booking new flights to come back to Provo. So they already had that part stacked against them. They would also have to truck their equipment out to Seattle yesterday which comes with an expense. They'd have to find an available flight to be chartered. They'd have to find hotels that would hopefully let them cancel last minute (newsflash: most don't). BYU would've incurred significant costs. 

 

Yes, "accepting" the game would've had some positive PR but BYU would've lost a lot of money and time and disruption to these kids lives that were given the week off. BYU doesn't play again until Dec 12th. That's why the players and coaches had made plans as though they were off this week. 

Why would you send your players home in a COVID season and not keep them in the bubble?  Not you potentially exposed the whole team to getting positive and cancel the only game they have left.  Now nobody will want to play you because you broke the protocol of the other conferences .

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