GoDogs22 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 On 1/10/2023 at 6:16 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said: destriying the African country with the highest standard of living in the process. And the brutal dictator that financed global terrorism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 On 1/10/2023 at 7:24 PM, AztecSU said: Sorry, a 12 second clip with not a lot of context doesn’t make her Stalin. I’m not claiming she’s perfect but placing her and the mayor of Chicago in an image with the worst people of the 20th century les Hitler and like pol pot is a massive reach. She is basically Manson. Basically. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 On 1/10/2023 at 7:29 PM, GoDogs22 said: And the brutal dictator that financed global terrorism And Obamas self admitted biggest blunder of his presidency. Libya had a standard of living on par with many European countries. Obama/Clinton/Biden administration turned it into hell with open air slave markets. He was the best thing to ever happen to that country. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetropolitanCowboy Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 On 1/10/2023 at 9:57 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said: And Obamas self admitted biggest blunder of his presidency. Libya had a standard of living on par with many European countries. Obama/Clinton/Biden administration turned it into hell with open air slave markets. He was the best thing to ever happen to that country. Just like Assad is in Syria. Killing Qaddafi was a strategic blunder for more than a few reasons. Not as dumb as W killing Saddam, which was an all-time work of idiocy, but def on a level of stupidity otherwise unseen since we took out Milosevic. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 On 1/10/2023 at 9:29 PM, MetropolitanCowboy said: Just like Assad is in Syria. Killing Qaddafi was a strategic blunder for more than a few reasons. Not as dumb as W killing Saddam, which was an all-time work of idiocy, but def on a level of stupidity otherwise unseen since we took out Milosevic. Some of these shit holes need brutal strong men, it's a sad reality. Without them the wolves fight and feast. Are they good people? Oh hell no, they are evil +++++s. Are they better than the alternative chaos? By orders of MAGNITUDE. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 On 1/10/2023 at 7:24 PM, AztecSU said: Sorry, a 12 second clip with not a lot of context doesn’t make her Stalin. I’m not claiming she’s perfect but placing her and the mayor of Chicago in an image with the worst people of the 20th century les Hitler and like pol pot is a massive reach. Oh and maniacal giddy laughter about such a brutal death speaks volumes to character. Who TF does that? The dude was literally raped to death with a bayonet and torn apart by a mob. She is wack. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoDogs22 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 On 1/10/2023 at 6:57 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said: He was the best thing to ever happen to that country. I'm sure the people he killed, and had killed, disagree with you on that front 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 On 1/10/2023 at 9:42 PM, GoDogs22 said: I'm sure the people he killed, and had killed, disagree with you on that front He was not a good person. He was the best option for Libya. As evidenced by the advances they made under him, and the collapse after him. Even Obama admitted in 2020 it was his single biggest blunder and the wrong move. I applaud him for that admission. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMO Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 On 1/10/2023 at 8:42 PM, GoDogs22 said: I'm sure the people he killed, and had killed, disagree with you on that front Shits great there now amirite?…lol beats having a standard of living on par with Canada, Europe, etc…lol The west +++++ed up when they removed the bizarre shepherd king…if you can’t see that…or admit that…you’re a shill…lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 On 1/10/2023 at 9:53 PM, SAMO said: Shits great there now amirite?…lol beats having a standard of living on par with Canada, Europe, etc…lol The west +++++ed up when they removed the bizarre shepherd king…if you can’t see that…or admit that…you’re a shill…lol He was an evil +++++. Full stop. Period. But damn he worked a near miracle with that country. He was a war lord strongman whose sheer will lifted Libya to heights not thought possible. When we removed him the wolves circled and it became one of the darkest places on earth. The West, lead by the Obama administration, sponsored his brutal removal. I found Hill Dogs maniacal laughter to be VERY disturbing. If you can not admit that Hill Dogs laughter after finding out a day prior that he was raped with a bayonet until his soul left his body while his body was being torn apart by a mob is....really really creepy or that it was a huge blunder I don't know what to say. You are full on teams and shit, Saint Obama and the D's can do nothing wrong ever. TEAMS AND SHIT. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMO Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 The only person who can hold together vast tracts of land that were created by drawing random lines in the sand and that are filled with scores of diverse tribes and peoples who often hate each other is a strongman…lol If you root on “regime change” in a place like Libya bc of “evil leaders” or whatever other bullshit you chalk it up to…you’re no better than dick Cheney honestly..lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMO Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 On 1/10/2023 at 9:01 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said: He was an evil +++++. Full stop. Period. But damn he worked a near miracle with that country. He was a war lord strongman whose sheer will lifted Libya to heights not thought possible. When we removed him the wolves circled and it became one of the darkest places on earth. The West, lead by the Obama administration, sponsored his brutal removal. I found Hill Dogs maniacal laughter to be VERY disturbing. If you can not admit that Hill Dogs laughter after finding out a day prior that he was raped with a bayonet until his soul left his body while his body was being torn apart by a mob is....really really creepy or that it was a huge blunder I don't know what to say. You are full on teams and shit, Saint Obama and the D's can do nothing wrong ever. TEAMS AND SHIT. No doubt he was a bad dude but you need bad dudes in places like that to hold shit together…lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 On 1/10/2023 at 10:03 PM, SAMO said: No doubt he was a bad dude but you need bad dudes in places like that to hold shit together…lol Exactly. Some evil is better than a lot of evil. Does not excuse it, but shit, that is what it takes in this shit holes the West played a huge part in creating. We made it so that places like Libya and Iraq need evil strong man +++++s, the other options is so much worse. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetropolitanCowboy Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 On 1/10/2023 at 11:42 PM, GoDogs22 said: I'm sure the people he killed, and had killed, disagree with you on that front Are you ok with the Saudi Arabian gov’t? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoDogs22 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 On 1/11/2023 at 4:31 AM, MetropolitanCowboy said: Are you ok with the Saudi Arabian gov’t? Not in the slightest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetropolitanCowboy Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Democracy doesn’t work in the region; there’s too much tribalism and violent repercussions for minorities. See: Lebanon and Israel. Secular Dictators are a necessary proposition, not perfect by any means, but being equal opportunity offenders allows for the growth of a more stable society. Syria under Assad is much better than the alternative. Iraq under Saddam, the same. As was Qaddafi in Libya, or the dictators sandwiching the disastrous Morsi experiment in Egypt. Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco, ditto. We +++++ed up killing Qaddafi, the people in that country have experienced far greater atrocities since then than they ever did before. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Coast Aztec Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 On 1/11/2023 at 8:33 AM, MetropolitanCowboy said: Democracy doesn’t work in the region; there’s too much tribalism and violent repercussions for minorities. See: Lebanon and Israel. Secular Dictators are a necessary proposition, not perfect by any means, but being equal opportunity offenders allows for the growth of a more stable society. Syria under Assad is much better than the alternative. Iraq under Saddam, the same. As was Qaddafi in Libya, or the dictators sandwiching the disastrous Morsi experiment in Egypt. Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco, ditto. We +++++ed up killing Qaddafi, the people in that country have experienced far greater atrocities since then than they ever did before. It's almost like tribalism is an older way of building nations than lines on a map. The western world's political boundaries are not replicable in the ancient nations. So us propping up or destroying leaders based on those is a fairly juvenile line of logic of how their cultures are formed, and that is without acknowledging the economic greed undertones that influence those actions on our side. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandjean87 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 On 1/10/2023 at 10:03 PM, SAMO said: No doubt he was a bad dude but you need bad dudes in places like that to hold shit together…lol Send yer extra dollers to Haftar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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grandjean87 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 On 1/11/2023 at 2:36 PM, UNLV2001 said: That last text just goes to prove one man's junk is another man's treasure. I apologize in advance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
