thelawlorfaithful Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 23 hours ago, East Coast Aztec said: Seeing a lot of new chatter about some reassigning of justices in the circuits, which would put GA with Thomas, MI with Kavanaugh, WI with Barrett, and PA with Alito. Chief Justice Roberts made the reassignments. Lot of pro-Trump folks are really latching on to this, and some of the evangelicals say it is a sign of God that this has happened, not, you know, a person doing it. Any of you folks believe there is merit to this in regards to the election? Would be quite interesting to see Biden all ready to move in, only for Donny boy to change the locks on him. Supreme Court Order 10 hours ago, Rofl_copter_dos said: it means nothing, most of those assignments were already in place. They shuffle a bit every time there's a new justice to put them in charge of circuits they're familiar with geographically. SCOTUS won't touch this with a 10 foot pole...Roberts is a hack, but he's a smart hack, and if SCOTUS repudiates trump here and keeps the ACA alive in the other ruling it kills any drive to pack the courts for a good decade and gives them cover to kneecap Biden at every turn. He'll convince two of Kav/Gorsuch/Barrett to defect. Roberts and the Court decide their circuit appointments under federal law. The President has no say here. Quote We’re all sitting in the dugout. Thinking we should pitch. How you gonna throw a shutout when all you do is bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawlorfaithful Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 On 11/23/2020 at 3:03 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said: If he had ridden off into the sunset he would have gone down as one the best American Mayors of all time, justified or not. I just can't give him credit, or any more than small partial credit, for overall crime reduction. When you are four times less likely to be shot to death in just the span of five years, that’s not a simple trend or nature healing itself. That’s effective policy. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3275435/ 1 Quote We’re all sitting in the dugout. Thinking we should pitch. How you gonna throw a shutout when all you do is bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Lulz at calling Roberts a hack. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, thelawlorfaithful said: When you are four times less likely to be shot to death in just the span of five years, that’s not a simple trend or nature healing itself. That’s effective policy. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3275435/ How does that compare to say LA or Chicago during the same time? Honest question I would like to learn more. What were the major policy differences in NYC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPslograd Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 14 minutes ago, halfmanhalfbronco said: How does that compare to say LA or Chicago during the same time? Honest question I would like to learn more. What were the major policy differences in NYC? There are books written about, lots of them. NYC crime went down twice as much as Chicago, so you cant just say it was the aging population and decline of the crack epidemic like bleeding hearts and ilbertarians always claim. NYC practiced broken windows, the theory is that not tolerating low level crime like graffiti allowed law enforcement to take back neighborhoods and make them unfriendly to criminals. Stop and frisk was part of that, and it probably got out of hand under Bloomberg who greatly expanded it. (Not exactly shocking hes the same phucker that outlawed super big gulps).. NYC had a lot more cops per capita than LA, and a lot more on foot. Or did until the current idiots were running the state and city. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawlorfaithful Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, halfmanhalfbronco said: How does that compare to say LA or Chicago during the same time? Honest question I would like to learn more. What were the major policy differences in NYC? LA’s homicides were cut in half, from a high of 1,092 down to 419 by 1998. http://lapd-assets.lapdonline.org/assets/crime_statistics/digest/1998/homicidestats.htm Chicago drop was less pronounced, from a high of 943 in 1992 down to 704 in 1998. https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-chicago-homicides-data-since-1957-20160302-htmlstory.html Now there are a lot of key differences in these cities of course, but it’s clear that New York City was a bloody nightmare of an outlier and within a few years it was right in line with other major cities. Quote We’re all sitting in the dugout. Thinking we should pitch. How you gonna throw a shutout when all you do is bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPslograd Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 19 minutes ago, thelawlorfaithful said: LA’s homicides were cut in half, from a high of 1,092 down to 419 by 1998. http://lapd-assets.lapdonline.org/assets/crime_statistics/digest/1998/homicidestats.htm Chicago drop was less pronounced, from a high of 943 in 1992 down to 704 in 1998. https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-chicago-homicides-data-since-1957-20160302-htmlstory.html Now there are a lot of key differences in these cities of course, but it’s clear that New York City was a bloody nightmare of an outlier and within a few years it was right in line with other major cities. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/03/the-crime-fighting-program-that-changed-new-york-forever.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalinasSpartan Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 2 hours ago, CPslograd said: Yep, until the past few years. Almost makes you wonder if the crime reform of the late eighties and nineties might have had something to do with it. Hell of coincidence that once we started rolling it back it started to get worse again. It dropped across Europe as well. I’d venture a guess they didn’t enact the same policies as we did. Either it was a hell of a coincidence that both approaches worked, or there was a reason independent of public policy driving the drop in crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Scorcho Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 46 minutes ago, thelawlorfaithful said: LA’s homicides were cut in half, from a high of 1,092 down to 419 by 1998. http://lapd-assets.lapdonline.org/assets/crime_statistics/digest/1998/homicidestats.htm Chicago drop was less pronounced, from a high of 943 in 1992 down to 704 in 1998. https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-chicago-homicides-data-since-1957-20160302-htmlstory.html Now there are a lot of key differences in these cities of course, but it’s clear that New York City was a bloody nightmare of an outlier and within a few years it was right in line with other major cities. you're welcome 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old_SD_Dude Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 56 minutes ago, thelawlorfaithful said: LA’s homicides were cut in half, from a high of 1,092 down to 419 by 1998. http://lapd-assets.lapdonline.org/assets/crime_statistics/digest/1998/homicidestats.htm Chicago drop was less pronounced, from a high of 943 in 1992 down to 704 in 1998. https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-chicago-homicides-data-since-1957-20160302-htmlstory.html Now there are a lot of key differences in these cities of course, but it’s clear that New York City was a bloody nightmare of an outlier and within a few years it was right in line with other major cities. San Diego got up to 193. It was bad. By comparison last year it was 15. You’ll never see me criticizing someone from either party that participated in the Crime Bill. Quote Thay Haif Said: Quhat Say Thay? Lat Thame Say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonkee Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 hour ago, thelawlorfaithful said: LA’s homicides were cut in half, from a high of 1,092 down to 419 by 1998. http://lapd-assets.lapdonline.org/assets/crime_statistics/digest/1998/homicidestats.htm Chicago drop was less pronounced, from a high of 943 in 1992 down to 704 in 1998. https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-chicago-homicides-data-since-1957-20160302-htmlstory.html Now there are a lot of key differences in these cities of course, but it’s clear that New York City was a bloody nightmare of an outlier and within a few years it was right in line with other major cities. Two MW cities on the murders graph. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawlorfaithful Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 44 minutes ago, Old_SD_Dude said: San Diego got up to 193. It was bad. By comparison last year it was 15. You’ll never see me criticizing someone from either party that participated in the Crime Bill. Wow, 15 is unbelievable for a city that size. You can’t even have a full season of CSI at that rate. 5 Quote We’re all sitting in the dugout. Thinking we should pitch. How you gonna throw a shutout when all you do is bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalinasSpartan Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Old_SD_Dude said: San Diego got up to 193. It was bad. By comparison last year it was 15. You’ll never see me criticizing someone from either party that participated in the Crime Bill. 15? Damn that’s really good. Most years Salinas is in the 20s or 30s and we only have 150k people, although last year we were in the single digits for the first time in a really long time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawlorfaithful Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 2 hours ago, toonkee said: Two MW cities on the murders graph. One might be so bold to say you guys are killing it. Quote We’re all sitting in the dugout. Thinking we should pitch. How you gonna throw a shutout when all you do is bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNLV2001 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 18 minutes ago, thelawlorfaithful said: One might be so bold to say you guys are killing it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSanDiegan Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 From CNN: Quote (CNN)President Donald Trump is expected to join his attorney Rudy Giuliani in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, on Wednesday, where Republican state lawmakers are holding a "hearing" on allegations of fraud in this month's election, two sources familiar with the plans told CNN. Link So I guess every 160 years or so a bunch of out-of-town f*cktards have to go to Gettysburg or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanforHeisman Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Regardless, Giuliani has destroyed his legacy and will be remembered more for his bizarre behavior than he will be as mayor during 9/11 or his work on the Commission case. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaztecs Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 10 hours ago, PokeTransplant said: I think I saw some of our usual suspects in this.... Love the carnival music for a backdrop Quote "We don't have evidence but, we have lot's of theories." Americans Mayor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smltwnrckr Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/11/republicans-discover-dangers-selling-bunk-their-constituents/617197/ 3 Quote Planning is an exercise of power, and in a modern state much real power is suffused with boredom. The agents of planning are usually boring; the planning process is boring; the implementation of plans is always boring. In a democracy boredom works for bureaucracies and corporations as smell works for skunk. It keeps danger away. Power does not have to be exercised behind the scenes. It can be open. The audience is asleep. The modern world is forged amidst our inattention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old_SD_Dude Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 10 hours ago, thelawlorfaithful said: Wow, 15 is unbelievable for a city that size. You can’t even have a full season of CSI at that rate. Doh! Turns out I was using alternative facts. I apologize to all. You guys got me thinking and I went back and checked. It was 50. Nevertheless, I remember back in the early 90’s when it was more than a murder every other day. Quote Thay Haif Said: Quhat Say Thay? Lat Thame Say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...