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3 hours ago, #1Stunner said:

I agree.

Only thing that gives me pause, though, is that most people in this Country are too pussy to go full civil war.  This isn't the 1860s.

I mean, the only people with the stones to fight anyone anymore are probably all from Montana and Wyoming.   Most people just want Netflix and Chill. 

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10 hours ago, mugtang said:

What I don’t understand is why so many members of the GOP are just going along with this. 

They are deathly afraid of Trump voters.  They have chosen to ignore their duty to country in favor of their political careers.  It's the epitmoe of cowardice and egocentric behavior.

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4 hours ago, thelawlorfaithful said:

No we weren’t. Get a grip.

 

It’s my opinion.  I don’t know everything about Turkey’s politics in the past 15 years but here’s what I know.  
 

- Erdogan won a very narrow majority (using the rural/urban political divide, and religious political bloc and ultra nationalism) to turn Turkey from mostly a secular leaning country to an Islamic Republic.  

- He used the term Deep State a lot and worked to dismantle the secular checks on power.  Starting with the Military which was a bastion of secularism since the days of Ataturk.  Later he purged the judiciary and government.  Eliminating checks on power. This happened over the course of 10 years.  I could have gone to Turkey in 2008 for a friend’s wedding and would have experienced something very different than in 2018.

- He was re-elected narrowly, and continued the reforms.  Changed the constitution.  Probably leader for life.  It was a slowish process.  Would have taken more than 4 years to do this; meaning, my point is a first term would be just the start and a second term would be a further acceleration (that we have not seen yet because of a pivotal November - a November to Remember).
 

That’s the reason for the analogy.  Anything in particular you disagree with?

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17 hours ago, UNLV2001 said:

 

More paranoid delusions about Global elites, George Soros, Socialists and dead people.

Its McCarthyism all over again.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_McCarthy

"We don't have evidence but, we have lot's of theories."

Americans Mayor

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On 11/19/2020 at 8:14 PM, Aztecmg said:

Years from now Trump will be seen as the imbecile who killed the Republican party.

If it happens I won't shed a tear for my former party.  Over the past 2 decades it has spiraled into something almost unrecognizable to the party I once knew.  The neocons that foolishly thought they could nation build in the middle east.  The tea party faction that is responsible for electing some of the dumbest imbeciles to ever serve in DC.  Finally, to the serviles that have stood quietly by or wholeheartedly supported Trump as he has systematically worked to destroy America's confidence in our institutions all for the sake of his ego and thirst for power.

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17 hours ago, UNLV2001 said:

I was one that mentioned him leaving office might be a question - looking more like a reality at the moment ............might help of some prominent republicans would grow a spine & say something, but they are all cowering in fear of the Cult 45 the orange crap stain has created 

 

15 hours ago, mugtang said:

What I don’t understand is why so many members of the GOP are just going along with this. 

Aside from political consequences, have any of their families been threatened? That's a big stretch, but one that might make someone think twice.

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17 hours ago, son of a gun said:

 

I can't help but think if some people on here said that the Orange Menace would do crap like this going back to 2016 if he lost. Not 100% sure, but its a gut feeling.

Those of us who said that The Donald would act precisely this way from the moment he threw his hat into the ring, were accused of being

lunatics.

Idiots.

paranoid

Sore losers.

Cry babies.

Delusional

fools

and many other things

We've known this because we have seen him in action since the '70's. Do you still believe we are these things ?

Perhaps us old and out of touch Boomers knew something that you young bitches refused to believe.

 

interested kevin nash GIF

 

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"We don't have evidence but, we have lot's of theories."

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5 hours ago, thelawlorfaithful said:

No we weren’t. Get a grip.

 

The Nazis used lawyers and voters to gain power. (And before I get piled on, I’m not saying that would easily happen here, nor am I saying Trump is Hitler. Just pointing to historical fact.)

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2 minutes ago, NVGiant said:

The Nazis used lawyers and voters to gain power. (And before I get piled on, I’m not saying that would easily happen here, nor am I saying Trump is Hitler. Just pointing to historical fact.)

Your comment reminds me of that 2001 movie Conspiracy about the Wannsee conference where they finalized the plans for the Final Solution. There’s a scene near the beginning where one of the guys, who’s a lawyer, asks how many others are lawyers; most raise their hands so he quips “it’s worse then I thought”. I also remember one of the conflicts throughout the movie is from Wilhelm Stuckart’s character, who objects to any changes made to the Nuremberg laws, as he wrote them, and someone else points out that they are in control and can just change the laws, so what’s the big deal? 
 

 

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Seriously @Bob, @Rebels18, @Bronco7454, @Nevada Convert, @Blue voodoo.... can you not see how batshit Trump and his cronies are? I mean, accusing a guy who has been dead for seven years of masterminding a plot to remove Trump from office has got to make you wonder about your devout loyalty. Please, please tell me it has....?

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11 hours ago, smltwnrckr said:

The next right wing populist to get in wont be as incompetent 

I was thinking about this last night in my occasional inventory of whether these kinds of thoughts are a real concern or something more hysterical. And something was inescapable. The pandemic was a perfect opportunity to seize more power. And either because Trump is not what the left has feared or an absolute moron (the answer is both, clearly), he passed on any attempt of consolidation through emergency powers and went head long the other direction into denial.

His motivation is ego, not power. Which brings me to what we’ve learned over the last four years. 1) Trump’s greatest threat was always his sheer incompetence. 2) A leader with his character flaws coupled with even a touch of intelligence really could be a threat to our system. 3) For ordinary people, recognizing the threat in real time is really difficult.

 

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1 minute ago, BSUTOP25 said:

Seriously @Bob, @Rebels18, @bornontheblue, @Bronco7454, @Nevada Convert, @Blue voodoo.... can you not see how batshit Trump and his cronies are? I mean, accusing a guy who has been dead for seven years of masterminding a plot to remove Trump from office has got to make you wonder about your devout loyalty. Please, please tell me it has....?

I think @bornontheblueshould be removed from the list. He’s been pretty on point in saying this whole effort is nutty.

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