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Glenn Greenwald resigns from The Intercept, after the news site bans him from authoring article on Joe Biden Corruption

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2 minutes ago, Maji said:

Greenwald is not a "liberal." That word loses value when it's assigned to anyone left-of-center by US standards

lol. He's a leftist by any definition. 

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10 minutes ago, Maji said:

Greenwald is not a "liberal." That word loses value when it's assigned to anyone left-of-center by US standards

Greenwald, Dore, Tim Pool, etc. have no coherent or consistent liberal or leftist ideology. It's sort of something they say to virtue signal their mainly conservative audiences so that their content carries more weight.

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28 minutes ago, NorCalCoug said:

I’d happily compare IQ’s with you any day of the week.

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Just now, 818SUDSFan said:

Right. I've never read The Intercept or Greenwald so have no preconceived notion as to whose side to take and Greenwald may indeed be an excellent journalist. I was just inquiring as to why a left-wing journalist might get into a pissing match with a left-wing publication.

From my brief understanding, he isn't THAT type of left wing, it would be more of a traditional leftists, where the craziest thing is universal healthcare, and freedom of speech.  Perhaps Intercept is an off-the-rails Democrat by all costs rag now, and that doesn't really align with traditional roles.

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2 minutes ago, #1Stunner said:

Don't politicians (but not Supreme Court nominees) sometimes drop out because of a reported scandals like um...Rape?  Regardless of the primary?  

I have no reason to believe that Glenn Greenwald is lying about the Intercept censoring him from any negative reporting on Biden Corruption.  

I did not accuse Glenn of lying. I read his post on sub stack showing the email exchange with his editor (I subscribe to his public posts); I don’t know if I would call it censorship. 
 

Regardless, I’m still going to read his stuff, and I’m still going to read The Intercept’s stuff. To quote your guy, “it is what it is”. 

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Just now, Maji said:

That's exactly my point. When anyone left-of-center is called liberal, the term loses value. For example, Communists are not liberal.

He's not merely "left of center" though. He's a leftist. He's beyond the "left of center" region. 

But because he's not on your team in this instance, I guess, given the day and age, I can see why you'd go out of your way to try to disparage him. #teamsandshit

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3 minutes ago, SalinasSpartan said:

I did not accuse Glenn of lying. I read his post on sub stack showing the email exchange with his editor (I subscribe to his public posts); I don’t know if I would call it censorship. 
 

Regardless, I’m still going to read his stuff, and I’m still going to read The Intercept’s stuff. To quote your guy, “it is what it is”. 

I don't know who "my guy" is who said that...

But it is an interesting story about increasing media censorship.  Both right wing and left wing media being impacted by a freeze out.

It was always weird to me that China could get away with controlling information that it's citizens could read.  Hope we aren't following that path.

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With regards to the article, he's got a point. Why do people blindly believe what the spooks say after all the lies they've told us over the last 70 or so years? And he's also right in pointing out a healthy press would be skeptical of all of them, not just one of them, and such behavior really comes across as a hallmark of totalitarian societies. 

 

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Just now, #1Stunner said:

I don't know who "my guy" is who said that...

But it is an interesting story about increasing media censorship.  Both right wing and left wing media being impacted by a freeze out.

It was always weird to me that China could get away with controlling information that it's citizens could read.  Hope we aren't following that path.

By “your guy” I was referring to Trump. But, I’m sure you knew exactly what I meant. 

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2 hours ago, Joe from WY said:

He's not merely "left of center" though. He's a leftist. He's beyond the "left of center" region. 

But because he's not on your team in this instance, I guess, given the day and age, I can see why you'd go out of your way to try to disparage him. #teamsandshit

I didn't "disparage" Greenwald. I merely wrote that he isn't liberal. Liberals are center-left. The majority of the far-left view liberals as squishy incrementalists

 

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1 minute ago, Maji said:

I didn't "disparage" Greenwald. I merely wrote that he isn't liberal. Liberals are viewed as center-left. The majority of the far-left view liberals as squishy incrementalists

 

Since when are liberals viewed as "center left"? 

In your pointy little head perhaps. But that's not the prevailing notion. The center left are usually referred to as "moderates". 

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1 minute ago, Joe from WY said:

Since when are liberals viewed as "center left"? 

In your pointy little head perhaps. But that's not the prevailing notion. The center left are usually referred to as "moderates". 

Tells me all I need to know about your bubble. It's not hard to find the exact sentiment I'm describing

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4 minutes ago, Joe from WY said:

Since when are liberals viewed as "center left"? 

In your pointy little head perhaps. But that's not the prevailing notion. The center left are usually referred to as "moderates". 

Left anti-liberals, by contrast, pinpoint liberal economic doctrine as the source of our current woes. Liberalism’s vision of the economy as a zone of individual freedom, in their view, has given rise to a deep system of exploitation that makes a mockery of liberal claims to be democratic — an oppressive system referred to as “neoliberalism.”

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/9/9/20750160/liberalism-trump-putin-socialism-reactionary

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18 minutes ago, youngredbullfan said:

Greenwald, Dore, Tim Pool, etc. have no coherent or consistent liberal or leftist ideology. It's sort of something they say to virtue signal their mainly conservative audiences so that their content carries more weight.

There's also this, which is an entirely different matter but also worth discussing

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4 minutes ago, Maji said:

Tells me all I need to know about your bubble. It's not hard to find the exact sentiment I'm describing

You live in +++++ing Idaho. Your whole life is a +++++ing bubble. Give me a break, Clyde. 

The fact you think that Glenn Greenwald isn't a liberal shows that you're a party shill to the max. 

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A curse on Al Gore for ever inventing the Internet...

In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

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1 minute ago, Joe from WY said:

You live in +++++ing Idaho. Your whole life is a +++++ing bubble. Give me a break, Clyde. 

The fact you think that Glenn Greenwald isn't a liberal shows that you're a party shill to the max. 

I haven't lived in Idaho my entire life, nor am I a Democrat. My last registration was as a Republican. Thanks for playing

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3 minutes ago, Maji said:

I haven't lived in Idaho my entire life, nor am I a Democrat. My last registration was as a Republican. Thanks for playing

You live in Idaho, and hence, live in a bubble. Your idea of culture is probably stopping at the Starbucks inside Albertson's. 

Also admitting you were a Bush-era republican isn't a good look. 

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Just now, Joe from WY said:

You live in Idaho, and hence, live in a bubble. 

Once again: I've lived in many states. Conservative areas. Moderate areas. Liberal areas. Rural towns. Suburban cities. Urban cities.

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