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Old_SD_Dude Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, retrofade said: I think the difference is that Boehner and McConnell came out and said they were going to oppose everything that Obama put out. In any event, you were right that Trump could have gotten a pretty good retort in there. But he would need knowledge that he doesn’t have. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NVGiant Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Anyone change their mind? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WAC_FAN Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, NMpackalum said: They? ERs never could turn anyone away even before the ACA. As far as individual costs increases, everyone is community rated, not individually rated since there are no preexisting condition exclusions. So if you live in an area with terribly unhealthy people, you get to pay higher premiums. That's only a small reason of the increased costs for individual puchasers. Not ER's, Health Insurance used to be able to turn you away. No they can't. That's the main reason insurance costs higher. That's what I meant sorry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bornontheblue Posted October 23, 2020 Author Share Posted October 23, 2020 If this was a football game Trump was not favored to win but pulled the upset 42-31 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
halfmanhalfbronco Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, toonkee said: If Trump would have said that it would have been yuge. Could you imagine either of these two having to debate on MWCboard? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LoboMan59 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, smltwnrckr said: Fracking is all about Pennsylvania. And Alaska, and the Dakotas, and Wyoming, and California, New Mexico, Colorado, Oklahoma, Texas, the Gulf States... etc. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Old_SD_Dude Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, halfmanhalfbronco said: It means EVERYTHING in the US reducing their carbon footprint. I wish we would stop exporting so much and save it for later. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NorCalCoug Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Trump looked pretty good for someone who was just on his deathbed with Covid according to some on this board. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UNLV2001 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 My take away...............Better overall for both that the other mess..................trump was calmer, but had little substance other than his usual talking points...................Biden did enough to win the debate.......................maybe a small % were swayed by this debate, i e if your major concern is fracking you like trump if you're the 99.9% of people fracking means nothing to you 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NorCalCoug Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Trump is an awful debater. I think Biden took that one... more substance. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PokeTransplant Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 1 minute ago, bornontheblue said: If this was a football game Trump was not favored to win but pulled the upset 42-31 Football game maybe, but neither side could score when it came to overtime. So, we are stuck with a tie.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Akkula Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, bornontheblue said: If this was a football game Trump was not favored to win but pulled the upset 42-31 Yeah, you guys all said on here he won the last debate too Trump didn't act like a baboon but he still handily lost. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UNLV2001 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, NorCalCoug said: Trump is an awful debater. I think Biden took that one... more substance. Blind squirrel finds nut Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Akkula Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, UNLV2001 said: My take away...............Better overall for both that the other mess..................trump was calmer, but had little substance other than his usual talking points...................Biden did enough to win the debate.......................maybe a small % were swayed by this debate, i e if your major concern is fracking you like trump if you're the 99.9% of people fracking means nothing to you We heard the same thing from Trump we hear every day. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NMpackalum Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, sactowndog said: My understanding is they automated and streamlined some of it. And I disagree many with pre existing conditions were not taken care of by Medicaid. I deal with it every day and believe me or not, it is far from streamlined and automated. I didn't say anything about pre existing conditions not being taken of. I didn't say anything about application of the ACA towards patient care at all. I said that Medicaid expansion is responsible for the decrease in uninsured. At the same time, the ACA decreased non subsidized, non Medicaid qualified purchasers of insurance by 40 percent (per CMS) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LoboMan59 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, bornontheblue said: If this was a football game Trump was not favored to win but pulled the upset 42-31 Biden = Appalachian State, Trump = Arkansas State... the favorite won in both tilts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
4UNLV Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, retrofade said: Kristen Welker was really good in dealing with him. Yeah, but the threat of a muted mike didn't hurt either. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sactowndog Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Yeah hard to say who won besides Kristen Welker. I could see an argument for either side but too much has gone on before this debate to matter. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
